Ar azarimy..can you elaborate more?

not an AR yet, but i'm working on it.

can u be specific on which part to elaborate?

hence they upgraded themselves to 3 years 1st degree + 2 years 2nd degree. this markets them better as potential candidates now see the 3 years degree as a bonus. well, most people dont know about the part 1 and part 2 thingy, but we dont want bcoz of not knowing, they dont wanna enter the course.

some institutions even go further to award masters instead of 2nd degree. this is to market themselves even better, especially for people who looks at degree+masters as higher than degree+degree. but in actual fact, regardless of what level of certificate u got, it's the part 1 or 2 qualification that determines ur actual level of expertise as an architect.

for example UiTM's diploma is certified part 1, at par with UM's, USM's and UTM's as well as international schools' degrees.

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I just dont get this part quite well besides, what is the standard require for architect to meet the job?

u can refer to the 1st post in this topic. the requirement to become an architect is any degree with Part 2 qualifications. the requirement to Part 2 is Part 1, which u can obtain from listed schools. regardless of what degree u hold, it's the value in regards to Part 1 or 2 that determines ur level of profession.

Part 1 is lesser than part 2. u cant even call urself an architect with part 1. only with part 2 u will have the recognition as an architect by law.

part 2 standard is maintained by PAM. PAM is responsible of handling the Part 1 and 2 examinations. degrees with Part 1 or 2 gets automatic recognition, means u dont have to sit for the exam.



hence, whatever degree u take for architecture, ur boss will only be concerned with which level u're in. even if u took 3 degrees that holds Part 1 recognition, u will still be given architect's assistant job, but not the architect.

haha,i'll sure come to melbourne n find u. juz a joke.
I really dont know the changes on their degree course.i'm really blur blur!aiks.
So u said i'll be recognised by PAM once i finished my 3 years in aussie or in finished my part 1,2,3? haa

Hey actually does Tayloy's college asking for accredition from PAM? I hope i'm no need to take part 1 n part 2!! but it'll be ok.

once u've finished in australia (3 years taylor's + 3 years melbourne), u should be able to get PAM part 2 recognition from PAM. but as i've mentioned earlier, up to end of last year, LAM & PAM still do not recognize franchise/twinning programmes. to avoid problems in the future, KEEP ALL of ur works, assignments and exam papers. every single one of them.

taylor's have been working to get Part 1 accreditation. i havent had the time to talk to tony (head of architecture) about it. probably since u're there, why not talk to him?

Oh thanks Justin n Azarimy!! I hv got it !

Now i really realised about that: "just that da name is different to attract more ppl to study their programme."

Em now i hv 1 question to ask is:
- If i complete my 1st year diploma in Taylor,can i get a job in the holiday which is
related to architecture which can help me in my future career? Or if i finished my
1st semester in Taylor?

This is because Taylor's architecture student n QS students hv 2 long holidays in A year which are almost 2 months.

For this year:
19th May 2007-15th Jul 2007
24th Nov 2007- ??th Jan 2008

So now i'm wondering,n can say is dreaming that wat i'm going to spend my holiday wisely!haa.i know i think too much...but pls tell me more detail bout this.

Thanks.

This post has been edited by Carrielyn: Jan 10 2007, 09:24 AM

it would be better for you to work after 1st year..at least learn ah bit of basic before you join the company. you can try your luck by applying intership which they normally won't pay you. if you are lucky, sometimes you can get mayb RM500 per month. or not.. own expenses..

Haa,me?it seems like it'll not be work!? But i'll try if there is a chance.
But if Taylor get the part 1 accreditation,wat can we do with it? For just no need to sit for the Part 1 n get recognition for part 1 automatically?

Thanks.N if u r free pls tell me wat way to ask Tony.i mean wat the reason will make him listen to me!^^

Thanks!

This post has been edited by Carrielyn: Jan 10 2007, 09:29 AM

Where can i apply for intership? Is it from my Architecture school or find some firm out there?

N does intership stands for :working abroad or may be working in local?

Thanks

and u think 2 months is a long holiday. We at da public unis get 3 months holidays. usually April to July. You can find jobs or you can pick up short courses that mayb beneficial to you studies. This has been discussed before, do check up all other thread relating to architecture.

a lot of firms want to take interns, coz they're cheap, and they're almost willing to do just about anything, not to mention quite capable of doing architectural stuff as most other technical assistants. depending on the size of office and scope of work, they will pay u between RM300 a month to RM700 for a non-Part 1 intern, or RM600 - RM1200 for a Part 1 intern.

u can join just about any office u can get ur feet on. use the PAM website, there's a directory list of all firms in malaysia. just go ahead and apply. ask the office to agree to become ur referee in the future, even if u're working for 2 months. this way, when u graduate, u have several offices already supporting u as a referee. so u dont actually graduate as a fresh graduate, but a not-so-fresh-with-a-little-experience kinda graduate.

hrmm...can some one help me? i a post spm..fearing of not getting into utm for architecture course in da future, A level would be another option. but..an A level..is there all sorts of A level based on the U or what? (ok la!! i admit!! so blur bout A level)

A levels is one the ways of getting into Unis. For private unis, its da passport to da degree programmes.

But for local government IPTAs, im afraid A levels are not given highest priority compared to STPM and Matrics.

So unless ur thinking of furthering ur education overseas, my advise is better not take A Levels, unless ur damn sure you can be top of your class.

intership stands for working locally..unless you are lucky enuff that the company send you outstation or overseas which i doubt so..hehehe..

internship actually do not differentiate whether locally or abroad. Internship means working as an assistant under a professional to gain practical knowledge and experience.

Sending you overseas or not does not depend on da company or luck, its all based on whether that firm has branches overseas or whether that oversea branch need someone urgently til they have to send a trainee to their overseas branch.

My friend who is one of the top students from my batch went for 6 month internship wif the firm MAA who has a branch in Shanghai. He attended the interview at the firm's main office in KL and he requested to be placed in Shanghai so based on his results, da firm allowed him to go to Shanghai wif paid air tickets. Living expenses are all self sponsored though.

Another top student from my batch, who has some connections, has made it to Oman for his internship. However this is different from the case above. My fren is working in an Oman office and not a Malaysian firm who has a branch in Oman.

like justin said, u can apply anywhere for internship. usually it's between 6months to 1year, depending on school syllabus. internship has a different visa requirement (justin can u ask people from ur batch how they deal with this?), so u will be working for only a brief period of time.

most UTM students prefer to do it locally, close to home and all that. others went to singapore, and recently some students went to shanghai, beijing and even hongkong.

it's just a matter of applying. if u know someone who knows somebody in the firm, even easier.

I'm doing a business degree now. Did a business foundation course before starting the degree. If I don't fail any papers, it should end in July 2008 and I would be 22 years old

If I decide to do Architecture then, must I do A-Levels first?

Another thing is...since Architecture course is so long, by the time I graduate I would be 29 or 30 years old? Waaa...sudah orang tua already.

i got a friend which had taken diploma in business, he is able to enter to first year degree without going any foundation & diploma. in your case, perhaps, you maybe going for 1st year degree.

as for the old...
we have to accept the fact, and yes indeed, architecture is a long education and by the time we graduate, we might become an old man already, full of wringkles...

elaborating slightly further than victorboy...

yes, u can skip A-levels or STPM with ur diploma. i'm pretty sure there are lots of subjects that u could do credit transfers to architecture, but i dont think it would shorten ur studies up to a year. perhaps 1 semester.

when u're doing architecture, age is not a factor anymore. knowledge and maturity weighs heavily. if u're that good, u could earn even more than friends of ur age who did architecture from the start (at 29 years old).

just look at it this way. architects are artists of the professional world. artists are being paid on how good they are, not about just about experience.