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post Jan 17 2007, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Jan 17 2007, 11:22 AM)
just called up their distributer, should be launched this  friday , price confirmed RM2888
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drool.gif drool.gif wowiii...in my shopping list now...Think can get Ap unit huh?? probably cheaper.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Feb 5 2007, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(boyakasha1234 @ Feb 4 2007, 12:58 AM)
anyone tested the battery life? this chicky unit looks very impressive in erms of spec. but bundled with such sofisticated features like gps, i wonder if that will kill the battery like no tomorow

just to comment on the look, i think ASUS, P525 is eqully dull looking, so no supriize that for 535's development, they have put in least effort to make better the look. perhaps their focus is just to beef up the spec and wanted to keep th "dull" look for market differentiation.

i bet, they will not do it any better in subsequent models , and doesnt seem this is in their TO-Do list
All PDA phones are por in batt life compare wth normal h/phone. It also depend on the chipset speed..the higher speed the more is the consumption.

For a normal standby time (For all PDA phone wth GPS), u will get about 2-2.5 days w/out call/GPS/BT..Wth BT & few calls/day it will last about 1-1.5days. BUT if u r on GPS the battery will drained within 2 hours!!!

Thus, ppl who invest in GPS phoen or BT GPSr, It is important to get a car charger...


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post Jun 14 2007, 07:43 AM

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Anymore review on this phone? such as abilities of getting accessories, extra batteries & etc......I'm seriously looking to upgrade my HP6515 to P535 now.. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 15 2007, 08:01 AM

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OK tester...Just got my old HP6515 upgraded to Asus P535 Yesterday after selling off to another LYN member here... biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

Happy wth the speed & extra mobility not available in HP6515...WIFI... biggrin.gif

Installed succesfully Mapking & also Garmin Que but hv not test yet....phewww..till 2am yesterday... icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 15 2007, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Jun 15 2007, 11:21 AM)
@ Tester,

Would u post a picture of the pda with the soft jacket up here? prefer silicone casing rather than leather casing... smile.gif
@ stimix,

How are you liking the P535 so far? hehe...
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So far so good but I was having problem installing GPS proxy Yesterday..Was wondering why proxy can't start until I read the old thread in malsingmaps pertaining to the old 2.2a version wth its baud rate problem. Downloaded and it's run perfectly....acquisition of satelite signal is good but I'm still not satisfied wth the accuracy via GPS proxy getting 6M-8M whereas I'm getting 4.0M to 6M using HP6515!!!

Hmnnn probably the Globallocate chip in HP6515 is more superior than SirfIII chipset in P525... hmm.gif hmm.gif ..will try to record the track for comparison......

Another thing I like about this is ASUS gave few nice spb tools and one of it is the spb phone which is damn cool compare to the default WM phone ..It comes wth hand free too which WM dun hv. Voice caller also cool but always call wrong guy probably due to my slang!...Hv not tried the namecard scanner...probably later.

In term of speed (My most imporatnt facture of upgrading) suprisingly only improve abit...this means the WM2003 running on a slower speed of 312MHZ is actually not bad liow (Even DopodD810 is abit slow compare to HP6515). The only thing lacking in HP6515 is the square screen, no WIFI, lousy camera, lousy phone function (unless upgrade to spb $$)....

So preliminary conclusion is yes it is faster but abit better. but the most important function for me is GPS..worry of the accuracy of the signal... sad.gif sad.gif
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post Jun 18 2007, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 15 2007, 01:47 PM)
acquisition of satelite signal is good but I'm still not satisfied wth the accuracy via GPS proxy getting 6M-8M whereas I'm getting 4.0M to 6M using HP6515!!!

Hmnnn probably the Globallocate chip in HP6515 is more superior than SirfIII chipset in P525... hmm.gif  hmm.gif ..will try to record the track for comparison......

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OK...I hv done 3 days of extensive testing on the GPS signal accuracy between HP6515 & P535. (Both using ext antenna)

For HP6515 the accuracy data showed better result than P535 i.e avg 4M-5.7M compare to Avg of 6.8M to 7.9M on P535.

However when I plotted the so caled better accuracy data of HP6515 compare to P535...The results are totally opposite!! i.e on P535, the line & curve of my collected track is superb & almost perfect or in malsingmaps term ..."golden track" but on HP6515..the track is a bit jagged and occasionally jumped especially when the accuracy dropped to >8M at certain time.

So getting to like this sirfIII chip liow....atlast I'm achieving golden track quality....who care about the accuracy data... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ...Hmnnnn to think of it the accuracy data between 1 machine to another is inaccurate... hmm.gif hmm.gif

Another thing noted was, P535 see more satelites comapre to HP6515 i.e on avg about 12 in P535 compare to 8 in HP

BTW, I bot mine also at RM2388 wth 2Gb & screen protector...That was the best price after surveying the whole Lowyat!! thumbup.gif..Abit worry on the 2nd hand value if distributor keep on dropping the price... sad.gif ..Infact saw a 2nd hand unit w/out complete set selling at only RM1700 recently!! sad.gif

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post Jun 18 2007, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(klmc @ Jun 18 2007, 09:40 AM)
interesting notes on the gps functions ! Aisay, I onli got 1 gig and the screen protector (Fresh Gear - digital mall - staff super friendly and helpful )

A Question - anyone tried sync'ing / connecting with windows vista ? Cant seem to get it to work
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I think WM5 only can sync wth old window XP. Currently there are lotsa problems for those migrating to Vista bcos lotsa softwares are still at the olf XP platform. In order to sync wth Vista, u need to upgrade to WM6 (Or so called Vista Mobile) which I think will be available free from ASUS this coming July.
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post Jun 18 2007, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 18 2007, 02:35 PM)
wah.....you guys got it at so cheap price....RM2388....with 2 gig and screen protector....

i got mine about 2 months back at RM2718 with 2 gig and screen protector and extra 12 months extended warranty for parts and labor......

different RM330 for 2 months......
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That is why I'm abit worry on the 2nd value of this unit....probably won't be as good as Dopod or O2
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post Jun 19 2007, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(efang @ Jun 18 2007, 09:02 PM)
Hi Stimix,

Which shop u bought it in Lowyat? Maybe want to get one at this weekend.  tongue.gif
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The one right at the entrance of the Hanphone floor....gg mobile (?) but using the inv of "Phone to Phone s/b" & charged via UTNT Mobile access s/b..Apparently I was told that there are only few bosses (less than 5 controlling all the stores selling h/phones & PDA at LYP!!)..The salesman told me they have 6 branches surrounding LYP having diff names but owned by same boss!! Infact the ground floor HP centre belongs to the same group!!

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post Jun 19 2007, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Jun 19 2007, 06:15 PM)
Dude,

Even if the 2nd hand value of Asus wont be as good, but its still worth buyin bcz its the features of the unit that counts...not so much of the 2nd hand value, right? Just enjoy and make full use of this phone  cool2.gif
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Hehe...phone, PDA function are secondary to me-lah.....GPS & the speed to ensure accurate tracking is important too me-lah (my hobby of collecting track to be mapped by malsingmaps mappers biggrin.gif ..weird for certain huh. biggrin.gif ..)....+ Wifi too biggrin.gif biggrin.gif & as time goes I might want to get a 3.5G or even the WIMAX...so possible upgrade cannot be discounted... biggrin.gif & 2nd value somehow or rather important too...
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post Jun 20 2007, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 19 2007, 11:56 PM)
he he he.....like that do always remember to think of me when you want to sell off this unit ya.....i dun mind getting a 2nd one as spare....he he he
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By the time I want to sell it u probably think twice coz there are better GPS PDA in the market wth speed exceeding 624Mhz & probably new battery developed allowing higher speed PDA to last longer... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Jun 20 2007, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:25 AM)

@ stimix.......you mentioned external antenna....where did you get it for the p535....i want one too.....
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The extenna antenna oledi wth me since last year, used it extensively for tracking & contributing my tracklogs to mappers. Actually I got it free from one of the mapper after realising that my earlier tracks were so inaccurate & keeps on jumping & jagged.

U can get the antenna from the Garmin shop located at the entrance of Digital Mall Sek 14, PJ....look for Kelvin...


Bro Sony....just joking-lah...but probably true when found a better speed PDA in future.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ...Not as so "ken" as bro Tester changing phone every 6mths thumbup.gif
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post Jun 21 2007, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Jun 21 2007, 12:36 AM)
@ stimix : The antenna connects to the port behind the "GPS" rubber cover? Does the reception and accuracy improve a lot? Is it very costly and bulky?
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Actually in addition to the ext antenna, I also bought a re-radiating unit (i.e a unit to amplify the signal from the ext ant and re-radiate it wireless to the GPSr)...So I dun really connect directly to the GPS socket. Another reason is because the connector is diff from what P535 has (probably mini mcx rather than mcx ext antenna)

The price of the antenna ranging from as cheap as RM80 to RM120 & the re-radiating unit cost about Rm120..U can get this from PC mobile

Do we really need an ext antenna - Well if u really serious about tracking especially tracking new roads for the purpose of mapping, then it is a YES. The accuracy of data is much better if u hv an ext ant rather than none. For eg..reading of accuracy w/out ext ant inside a tinted car = 8M-15M but once u hooked up, the accuracy improved to 6M to 8M (This is on P535)....But for normal navigation, ext antenna is not necessary unless ur car if tinted wth Vcool. U probably got "Lost satelite signal once in a while w/out ext antenna

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:24 PM)
@stimix
nice....you have those cool accessories.....that's the thing with p535...the hole seems so small and deep.....not sure if the generic connector works...

hmm i wonder if there is reradiating the GSM signal to inside my apartment.....the reception is so bad.....
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I dun think there are any generic connector in the market yet, If u visit PC-mobile site u can see that there are 3 types of connector i.e MCX, Mini MCX and BNC....dun ask me I also dunno what are these convention..Anyway, I'm interested of getting an adaptor for my MCX type antenna to be connected directly rather than rediating (More powerful..I think...)..Awaiting their reply to check what socket is P535 using... rclxub.gif


Added on June 21, 2007, 8:52 pmBad news. Just received the reply from PC-mobile..:

"I believe Asus 535 has a proprietory antenna jack.
Sorry we do not have an adapter for it."


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post Jun 22 2007, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 22 2007, 10:59 AM)


But when I called Asustek below, the person who picked up said she will pass it to the technical team and will ask them to check and call me back.  Right now still waiting for their phone call.
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Yes I called them also this Morning tillnow they did not call me bck at all. I have also Email to ASUS asia pacific SC..and Got a reply that they will come bck to me within 48hours.....Chances is they developed the GPS phone & include the unconventional socket but yet dun have any ext antenna as standard accesory.. sad.gif sad.gif

BTW, how much & where to get the cover huh..probably missed your earlier postings... biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

& Is there any GPS Camera function as those in Dopod D810 & HP6965??...can't find any menu to activate GPS on the camera...so that the coordinate appeared on the captured photo.
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post Jun 22 2007, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 22 2007, 09:00 PM)
cover??  you mean the silicon casing?

i bought at cineleisure ground floor for RM100......only got one pda shop at the ground floor.....if not mistaken is pda union....

i have a flip top leather that I can sell off cheap if you want....from capdase also....better than the ori casing that is not very practical because have to take out phone all the time....the leather casing with flip top easier....no need take out phone....

anyway....i dun think there is the GPS camera function as you mentioned for p535....
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Ouch..so pricy one-ah shocking.gif ...Yes I;m using Capdase or something on my ex-hp6515...Given the RM80 case FOC once I sold the unit last week...So probably hv to look for another leather case-liow... sad.gif

NO GPS camera huh mad.gif sad.gif sad indeed..but small matter only-lah..pros & cons of diff PDAs... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(klmc @ Jun 27 2007, 03:55 PM)
I went to get the case from the curve earlier in the morning. couldnt find PDA union ... but hit onto to curve's puny little IT section . Bought the capdase silicon case for $45  - the black one ...with the black pda in it - it comes out something like an ash grey colour. The leather case is $80 there.
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Added on June 27, 2007, 8:37 pm
QUOTE(Strik3 @ Jun 22 2007, 09:22 AM)
@ stimix, tester: Do update regarding the external antenna price with the P535 adapter/connector yea? hehe..this is going to be interesting.
OK I hv received the reply from ASUStek:



Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.

My name is Deo. It's a pleasure to help you with your problem.

You can find the GPS antenna connector on the back of the P535. Pick the rubber case, then there will be GPS antenna connector port available. You can use the antenna meet MMCX protocol. The antenna will be active aautomatically.
We have no such accessories available , sorry for any inconvenience .


So it is mmcx type of socket..so can go shopping either at malsingmaps or pc-mobile liow... rclxms.gif ..for me an adaptor will do...


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QUOTE(klmc @ Jun 28 2007, 01:47 AM)

> stimix >  Either the guy in cineleisure ripped u off or i bought some type of imitation product.
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Not me-leh...Bro tester might vmad.gif mad.gif to the seller... biggrin.gif Hope to get this soon...tnx
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QUOTE(klmc @ Jun 28 2007, 09:31 AM)
The leather case is nice at $80, but couldn't see myself flipping that thing open everytime u need to use the PDA.
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Yeah..that's why I seldom use the leather case on my ex-hp6515...furthermore looks & feels bulky & thick...Wth silicaon, I can just ignore d clip & slip inside my pocket rclxms.gif ...Hmnnn if PDA expert selling at RM45...probably OEM shop outside selling at RM10 drool.gif drool.gif ..hehe just joking



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post Jun 28 2007, 11:28 AM

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Huh...all ur comment put me in dilema whether is it necessary to get....as what been said probably new..but when >6mth will go naked.....So probably I will save the Rm45 and prefer go naked ho?? biggrin.gif

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