Here are some of the pics that is before and after ....



Cheap HU Bracket but at least better than Brothers (RM85)



Is this what we call sound proof ?



Sound proof .. what brand ? I dont know, the mechanic claimed it's used for Merz / BMW (crap) - Damn expensive ...



Hole ....



Using papan ... ( RM40 per piece - crazy )



Mechanic struggling opening up the player, it seems like it's his first Myvi "troubleshooting" ( My car as their guinea pig )



Final output ... 6.5" placement (DLS R6A)



Tweeter positioning ... Quite sharp



New bracket with loaned HU (Kenwood) ... My Pioneer DEH-3950 hasn't arrived yet ...



A driver position ....



Driver's side ...



Myvi's screweless arm rest (optional picture ), to make it tight, I have use double cellotape ..... ( RM58 - Brothers )



Different angle ...


*MISS OUT ONE THING - The amp ( picture will be uploaded later )

This post has been edited by patrickyeo21: Jan 12 2007, 07:54 PM

u mean open a hole at door panel there to put a speaker?

u know myvi back door sticked with a 6" speaker, now i wanna fix the R6A which the magnet is big, im afraid it cant fit ...

i think custom a bit den can fit nicely 1... normally the audio shop will done it for u...

Ask the ICE shoper how to do it loh....maybe can refer few shop.. get their ideas.. then go back the shop u want to install lo...

will it be very expensive ?

hahaha....bro, u everything also want cheap....

i mean expensive is spend around RM 600- 700

if u buy one set of speakers and fix it at the same shop then this would make sense laa .....otherwise, just to fix speakers in the car it cant be this expensive ler....

yes, you cut fit speakers to fit at the back door, as there is already bracket for speakers...

but aint a waste to used DLS R6A at the back door...

The stock speaker for Myvi is some brand like "Betamax". I changed the speakers on the Myvi twice so far. First changed with stock CRV Kenwood speakers which fit just fine but then re-changed with 4 way pioneer's.

There are like 3 screws for the stock Myvi rears and dont fit fine for all type of speakers. The rear doors unfortunately needs alot of sound proofing "dynamat maybe".

I agree using DLS R6A at the back is not really the best. They should be at the front. To drive DLS an amp is prefered.

why at the back
it shud sound better if install in the front

but then I have another speaker MB QUart, but then install behind a?R .. then i have 2 channel amp ... where it shud be connected ?

Forums suggestion :

R6A - front speaker
MB Quart ?
2 channel amp ?

myvi front, stock position only can take 4" speaker
you can fit a 6" but you need to do customization work

your 2 ch amp should be used to drive you front speaker which ever you prefer to put there

i assume both are component speakers? forgive my noobness as never use dls b4

What to do ? definately need to customize it ... sad ehh .. new car already like that, but if the speaker able to ummpphh, then worth doing it ... so another forumer mentioned to set amp for the front side ? how about the back ?

if you think you want good sound, then customize is way to go... before you do anything go and listen to some MyVi that have customize then you know how good it sound like although only with front speakers...

think if you can afford DSL R6A (if its original) then your budget / sound setup should be better then you mention put it at the back...

what mode of MB Quart youre using, better then the DSL ???

If you get a 4 channel amp then all also can. I changed the front stock speakers Myvi with 4" 2 way pioneers.

if u wanna put a bigger size den customize is the only way to do.

How about u man?
Get your component liao?

hmm ... i went and survey, total up cost me RM 600 ... two front door with sound proof, installation of R6A in front, amp ...

Found out :-

a) sound proof : RM 200 per door x 2 = RM 400
b) speaker installation : RM 120
c) Papan for front : RM 80

Is it worth ?

Found this at Hi-Power at Batu Berendam

This post has been edited by patrickyeo21: Jan 4 2007, 08:15 PM

Extra RM600 without speaker ...!

Soundproof ? How they do soundproof for you? 1 layer or 2 layers?
Please check...!
If RM400 for 1 layer... it quite expensive.

speaker instalation fee RM120 ..wow super expensive...

This post has been edited by loon1031: Jan 4 2007, 09:18 PM

nope
sound proof - RM100 2 doors
speaker installation - RM30 - RM50
Papan.. for wat ?

speaker installation expensive coz I didnt buy speaker from them ... u sure or not sound proof only RM 100 for 2 doors ?

For the soundproof, I am unsure how many layers as he didnt mention but the sound proof covered whole door.

For speaker installation, cost around RM 120 because didnt buy speaker from them, I survey everywhere, all around that price if didnt get their speaker, what to do ?

Sound proof : You sure or not that cheap ? Maybe put fibre leh ?
Speaker installation : As mentioned in previous message
Papan : I forgotten, haha ....

Is Pioneer DEH-4950 cost RM 570 ?

bro patrickyeo, please use the multi-quotes when replying, there is no need to keep on updating on same matter every few minutes...

yeah, I got mine leadi .....there will be an update soon in my thread ...need some ways to correct a problem, will post the update there soon...

Maybe u look like a waterfish...
Penang here instalation fee only RM30... max to RM50 (also stuft not by from them la) and speaker so easy install also need charge so eapensive...!

For that RM400, I can put 2 layers 1 layer brax e-vibration & 1 layer Deadnening ..then price below RM400 le

But malacca charges like that, unless you tell me where can get cheap wor ... even boeing accessories also charge me that much ... haiz .. sedih ...

It mean Melaka people so rich loh....lol

Malacca taukeh is rich, not me ... im always kuli to people ... kuli always kena conned ...

RM100 for sound proof also kira expensive already
mine 2 doors rm70 nia

with the price u pay,
i think u can install ur stuff at KL, stay 1 night, jalan2 cari makan already, petrol, toll expenses also not that expensive

Why u wanna put speakers at the rear door? Unless u want to play dolby digital 5.1 surround stuff, then you should spend the money on using better components speaker on the front door.

then just fix front door is sufficient enough ?

yes it is

then if rear one, u think i shud fix it to match everything ?

I just fixed DLS R6A front door panel with amp ... it actually can perform like amp

What amp you match with DLS R6A?

MasterPiece SP Audio AC-2150 2 channel ... dont know what brand is that, i simply buy only ...

This post has been edited by patrickyeo21: Jan 6 2007, 11:19 PM

Anyway, I will be posting up the picture as well ....

Picture is up ....

questions

1) why there's a gap on the right hand side, it shud be fully sealed (Btw, BMW?Merc? how come i din see my car comes with that )

2) no hole behind the speaker? (on the sound proof sheet)

they already fix that later on ... how come ? Ask the so-called mechanic .. haha

the hole already cut, but he hasnt cut the piece of paper (sound proof) for that part yet ...

This post has been edited by patrickyeo21: Jan 7 2007, 11:02 PM

How come your soundproof like that ? not cover all hole meh?

Your DLS R6A mid install like that on door panel ar? Use board ar...Handcraft so char...Why don't use fible?

Im out of budget .... if got money and time I will use fibre ...

but the sound performing kinda nice, but then still need expert to evaluate the sound quality ...

it shud be ngam-ngam fit 1...
and the part behind the speaker leh? din cut a hole meh ????
(i know myvi behind the speaker is a piece of metal, but they din cut a hole ?)
shud cut... cos air pressure will be better

they cut the metal piece ... so cham ... haha ...what to do? want good sound quality, have to sacrifice ... but I feel like i dont need rear speaker as it able to produce loud ...

Correct. Front staging is what you should look for. It's like watching movie - the screen in front of you not at your back. Spend your money wisely and ask advice from frens .... some of the shop wanna your money only.

ya, the shop also advice me to fix front first, if not so nice, then only fix at the back .... but now i think dont need rear speaker already ...

where to get a board or fiber for 6.5" speaker ??
my car the hole is 5.25 i think .

For Listen song, advise disable the back speaker or use HU power it only...
If have money, later add subwoofer...

poison time:

original HU panel now slot in monitor to view DVD/VCD (hamtais)
CD compartment now slot in HU normal HU nia

carbon fibre speaker panel


This post has been edited by driftmeister: Jan 8 2007, 11:42 PM

Poison by driftmeister!

any ICE shop ... they surely have ...


ya correct ... but if wanna add amp, do u think it's advisable to fix a rear speaker ?

Haha ... as expected ....

updated

my friend already listen, he said the midbass is very good ...

no need ler
better invest on a sub

you better clarify properly leh, later not nice, i come and look for you .. haha

the carbon fibre doesn look good....whole black will be better...my 2 cent...

hi friend, it's not carbon fibre, they use wood ...

look at the pic again, it's carbon fibre finish....

i think he mean the pics posted by driftmeister...

then sorry lor ... hehe ...

patrickyeo21@ after looking at the pics sorrie to inform you that you / installater did wrongly on the door panel...

not saz it doesnt work, but later you you find problem on sound and vibrations... most of the MyVis usually cut the hole on the door for the speakers to fit in...

I dont mind about your comment, but could you explain to me how and why it happens ?

ur speakers move.. when it's punching bass.. u'll feel it sooner o later..

wat kidscode said is true.. and it is better if u can soundproof the door..

edit: he! he!.. didn't realise u aledi soundproofed it..

This post has been edited by mattchin: Jan 10 2007, 11:28 PM

hehe .... but seems not vibrating ...

No matter how I see your door panel ... I still feel something wrong..!
But dun know how to explain...! lol

Haha ... I also feel something wrong, that's why I dont plan to get back there if I have more ICE to fix ...

go somewhere reputable.. like kf audio in aman suria..

i think normally ppl will use ready made fibre panel to fit in the speakers instead of wood panel
so a bit weird ler....

moreover, normal car will screw the speaker on the door frame instead of door panel...

myvi hard lo

I think maybe the board you fix for speaker loh...
Will it affwct SQ? !

that guy always claimed wont affect it, but the sound quality is nice anyway ..

1st of all, but cutting the hole, you will give more space for the speakers and interms in speakers reflex, the bass will sound better, then with soundproof that part, it sound even better... if tuners tune youre system, they will feel that the system will feel not right (this i dont know how to explain)

the advice was given as some of my member also done the same thing, and after redo it, the difference can be felt... understand that most ppl dont want to spoilt the door, its up to individual, if you okay with it then its fine... just want to let you know...

as for your sound proofing, more likely its like sound dampening, as mostly sound proofing will be on the steel door...

This post has been edited by KidsCode: Jan 11 2007, 11:26 AM

What is the material? so Thin? Look like plastic?

Hmm... I remember last time I done my soundproof for doors..but the material thick than your a lot leh...!

ehh...dont know what material, he also dont know the name .. WTF .. nvermind, that will be my last time i go there ...

seriously if u guyss had sound proof ur whole door panel at the inner frame and outer panel, then the response of ur mid bass will had some changes which will result in poor freq response, non natural sound, stage & depth prob and some others....this is thru my experience....and my car are having this prob now...


just sharing it, if u wna a real sound from ur mid bass, try find a enclosure for ur mid bass which is not too big...then u will know how exactly ur mid bass sound....

This post has been edited by howiechoo: Jan 12 2007, 12:44 AM

you mean that the sound proof mustnt cover everything ?

Where is this place located ?

poor installing technique maybe ?
i dun feel this problem
not only me but also many icer out there is using the same method

This is the place..

at first i also didn notice my bass got something wrong, and keep finding wat is the source.... but after i take out the midbass and tweet to try it in a small enclosure and put in the place, the sound are brilliant....

actually by dampening both side of the door, u are creating a quite large enclosure for ur mid bass....the resonance freq will be lower and for some spk it will lost the kick bass and some low mid also....freq around 100-300....thus the sound are not as expected....

i think this is caused by diff spk got diff characteristic....

maybe thats d culprit

But for my case, they claimed it's not dampering ....

i think so..since the material used are so thin...

Which you mean ?

Agree..!

I plan to fix one more speaker behind using MB Quart DSD216 ... do u think I shall fix it ? How much is the installation for that speaker with an AMP ? And definately have to korek lubang? How much all cost roughly ? I dont have any wiring or etc ....

You fix the speaker for rear for wut use le?
No recommance fix at rear.. better save for subwoofer !

aiya, i dont plan to fix woofer so i fix at rear lor ...

why dowan woofer ?

Yaloh... why don't want sub?
Sub can cover back what the mid can't do le..

later my parents make noise if they sit behind, suddenly their body shaking ... haha and it will take lots of space. ..

no la
use bass adjuster la

it wont take much space seriously

If feel take a lot of space, can think active woofer for SQ