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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V3<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Apr 16 2007, 12:19 PM

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Currently my P4 Prescott is running at 3.6GHz from the default speed of 3.0GHz on an Abit AI7 with a small voltage boost of 0.05v.

Temps for the CPU on full load with Orthos are 67C, PWM 85C tongue.gif RAMs are 4x256MB Vitelic SAT5Bs DCed running on 3V on 240MHz 2.5-4-3-7 1:1.

PAT is disabled, and to top it off, I'm using a stock heatsink tongue.gif

Anyone can give advice on what I can I go further?
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Apr 16 2007, 01:49 PM)
Get a better CPU cooler


Haha, knew that you would say that tongue.gif

Anyway, are anyone here enabled PAT? When I enable PAT it stunts my overclocking by a lot. So far from my tests, dropping latencies do not make much of a difference at all. (I used to have an AMD tongue.gif)

Also, does running FSB and RAM speeds async kill performance like AMDs do? I haven't done much tests on that yet. laugh.gif


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post Apr 17 2007, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(serewen @ Apr 17 2007, 06:18 PM)
Hey, any of you are still using the stock HSF? Or a 3rd party ones?
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I'm still running stock. smile.gif
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post Apr 22 2007, 12:38 AM

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I've just discovered a problem on my rig, recently I found out that it restarts by itself during SP2004's Large FFT test.

When the room is cold, the PC will not restart. By this clue here it's obviously heat related.

I've tried decreasing and increasing RAM and Vagp voltages, but it doesn't help the problem. However when I dropped the processor voltage by a bit the test lasted slightly longer.

Now, the big mishap is my processor runs 7 hours+ without errors with Orthos(using the Gromacs core test), and also runs Memtest86 4 hours+ without any errors, with the same voltages before I found out the problem. All tests were done in room temperature. Yet, the SP2004 Large FFT test fails within 3 minutes or more.

Anyone with advice on this one?
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post Apr 22 2007, 12:08 PM

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Previously it was 70C, but now after reducing a bit of voltage to the processor, temperatures are now 66C after a voltage reduction to the processor, for 4 hours of flawless Gromacs testing.
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post Apr 22 2007, 10:24 PM

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After doing a few tests, my computer now fails after 12 minutes in the Large FFT test, but gives me a fatal error instead of a restart.

Full load temperature is now at 65C.
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post Apr 23 2007, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Apr 23 2007, 01:28 AM)
My 3.5Ghz not 3D Stable...LOLZ
A lot of artifacts during 3DMark, RAM problem...sigh, but benchable, the rest no problems >.>"
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Seems that your Northwood's hitting it's limitations eh? tongue.gif What's the temps on yours? smile.gif

I'm gonna try dropping my RAM voltages (3V to 2.8v) and redo the Large FFT tests to see if there's any improvements. smile.gif
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post Apr 23 2007, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 23 2007, 10:26 AM)
70'C is hot la. sweat.gif better get a good cooler to tame your prescott. With 4 hours Gromacs stress is nice. smile.gif what priority you set for it?
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I always use Priority 10 for SP2004. smile.gif

So far, dropping the memory voltage doesn't help in prolonging the Large FFT test. Today I ran the test for an hour in a cold environment, no problems at all. Just found out, My CPU voltage has been dropped to stock, and it's able to run at 3.6 GHz for 4 hours Gromacs test. biggrin.gif

My guess is that the RAMs could be hot. Funny though, I have a RAM cooler installed... laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2007, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Apr 24 2007, 04:53 PM)
it just arrive today...i'm gonna change my current board to that p4p800-se and 3.0 HT proc...my brother so generous to let me use that proc...can't wait to get it done... rclxm9.gif
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Is the processor your brother is giving you a Prescott? I wanna compare temps and overclocking ability tongue.gif

Your overclocking results should be higher, since you have a better board wink.gif
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post Apr 25 2007, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Apr 25 2007, 02:03 PM)
that one can be consider cap ayam gred A la... hehe.. mine is ITIS .. anyone ever use that ITIS brand??  wink.gif well...once i can load windows...will try it slowly.... i'll post some result when i've done oc a bit....  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Take your time, dude. We don't want any smoke coming out of your PC, do we? laugh.gif

Hope your overclocking goes for the best. smile.gif
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post Apr 25 2007, 06:28 PM

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I tried pulling my FSB higher (240 to 245), but I guess my 4x256MB SAT5B RAMs aren't helping much. Time to start tightening timings then. tongue.gif

I read somewhere that more slots occupied on the board will stress the memory controller further. Is this true?

And if i remember correctly, Tictac used to modify BIOSes, but his site is currently down to inactivity. Anyone kept his modded BIOS for the AI7? biggrin.gif


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post Apr 26 2007, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Apr 25 2007, 09:27 PM)
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well guys...it's a prescott.. hehe....this board only support 1.5V or 0.8V AGP card ... don't support 3.3V ... so i can't use Radeon 9600 Pro with this board... stick with my old 9250 .... it's doesn't bother me coz i'm not into gaming ...  rclxms.gif this PSU voltage changing very badly 12.159 .. 12.038 .. 12.22 .. 11.977 .. kindda afraid wanna oc la..  sweat.gif  maybe gonna have a stable psu and heatsink before oc... sweat.gif
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You have the same processor as I do icon_rolleyes.gif Currently my processor is running at 3.6 GHz stock voltage, 65C full load.

Yours should do about the same, or maybe better with good RAMs. smile.gif Also, are you sure that your 9600 PRO cannot be used? If I'm not mistaken, 9600s use 1.5v. biggrin.gif



@kabukiawie

Just found out about Tweak865 from your post laugh.gif Mind explaining the settings and your experiences with it? smile.gif

This post has been edited by colinwong89: Apr 26 2007, 03:59 AM
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post Apr 26 2007, 04:48 PM

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After toying around with Tweak865, I have PAT enabled, although partially from what CTIAW reported biggrin.gif

I gained an extra 100MB/s from Sisoft Sandra's Test, however I have yet to test for stability problems smile.gif


Added on April 26, 2007, 4:51 pm
QUOTE(shinjite @ Apr 25 2007, 09:52 PM)
colinwong89, I use to have IS7 modded BIOS too....but now cannot find it already, sheesshh
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I found a few modded BIOSes, however they are only for the IC7 and other ABIT overclocker boards. sad.gif

Seems there's no one actually modding the latest BIOSes for our boards, all of them seems to have retired or something tongue.gif

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post Apr 26 2007, 05:37 PM

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Well, a modified BIOS could increase overclockability on a motherboard by editing romsip tables, unlocking hidden options, etc. That was for the NForce2 series boards though. smile.gif

I wouldn't mind an E6600 if it was free biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Apr 26 2007, 07:32 PM)
IC7 modded bios ? drool.gif  Any special thing on this ?You have IC7-G one ?
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It was stickied on some French forum, I'll get the link for you soon as I'm currently out right now. smile.gif
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post Apr 27 2007, 01:43 AM

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http://www.hwtweakers.net/postx4741-0-0.html

Only a few BIOSes for the P4, but better than none. The page is Italian, btw laugh.gif

@raymond5105
Sorry, the one I saw on the website was for the MAX3 version, not for the normal IC7. Nevertheless you could still have a look at it. smile.gif

@shinjite
Will do if I manage to find them. smile.gif
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post Apr 27 2007, 03:06 PM

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To those people still using stock Intel heatsinks, how fast do your fans rotate? Mine's only about 2700RPM max; did a fast check online to find that the speed is controlled by a thermal sensor.

Any way to set it to maximum speed?
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post Apr 27 2007, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 27 2007, 03:52 PM)
they said speedfan can adjust the fanspeed. but never try before. Maybe you can try that, its a small prograqm. wink.gif

i cant really stand the stock fan. its scream crazily till spoiled my mood when wanna enjoy some relax mp3s.  Even worst when you are playing game shakehead.gif

you still want to get it till max speed? really solute you notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif mine last time at stock its almost like the fan speed you having right now. My point of view is that better get a good cooler if you really want to oc safely and silently.
hehe..... quite satisfied with the performance of my 7300gt already. just dont have time to play the game. tongue.gif you lucky la, rma ddr2 7600gs become ddr3 7600gs. this is my last upgrade. keep the rest of my $ to new rig. smile.gif
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Speedfan can detect my the fan's RPMs and motherboard voltages, but it doesn't give me any options to increase or decrease the fan speed. sad.gif My fan doesn't spin faster during primes, just stays at 2700 RPM max.

If it's really noisy as you said, well let's just see if I can take it tongue.gif

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post Apr 27 2007, 06:58 PM

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Crap. Speedfan doesn't support regulating fan speeds for the Uguru boards as it will 'cause a huge overhead'.

Looks like I have to find something else.
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post Apr 28 2007, 12:02 AM

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Anyone here tried CPUMSR before?

I checked my PC using Sisoft Sandra, and they reported that Fast Strings was disabled. Using that particular program you could enable it.

According to ARP, Fast Strings should be enabled to improve performance. This is supposingly an option in the BIOS too.

Maybe my AI7 leaves it disabled, will run a few tests later to see if performance levels improve after enabling. There are many other options, such as Data Error Checking, Response Error Checking, and Address/Request Error Checking, which are all disabled.

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