INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V3<<, The Journey Continues Here!
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 Aug 12 2007, 08:35 PM
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Haha! Even usus but still a performance board manufacturer.
 My current board? Nop.. Get from emmier if i dun miss spell his name. A forumer here! So as the procs and ram! Half set of his rigs was goes to me before he left 478 generation.  Hm.. I not really sure about my rigs system. I dont think is the procs problems but most likely the ram. Haiz.. Wanna change to better performance ram but $$ problem. Btw, just do cable management and cleaning for my system. And now running at 3.45Ghz @ 38'c on air! Full load goes below 45'c! Phew!  |
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Aug 12 2007, 09:08 PM
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Wah.. Even a cap palang ram can bring u up to 4Ghz? Gosh! Thats freak man! Haha! Hm.. I not really sure about my problems why i cant get beyond 230mhz! Guess probably will be PSU unit.. Was using the icute 450Watt typ! Not really a good UPS. Saving up to get a better one.
Break tru 3.6Ghz barrier was one of my dream! hhee! Btw, im now using P4P800 DELUXE. But duno why my DELUXE doesnt allow i go over 230mhz, thats a shame for me.  Haih.. What to do! Debt too much! Haha!  About the temperature? I hide almost 40% of the card to the side and cover them will the right panel. Tats y got better air flow lo. Else used to get 50'c+ for full load.Hm.. TCCC and D-43 ram which 1 perform better? P/s: Btw, the ram speed i set on bios wasnt auto, i fix it run at 400Mhz. Will it be a problem for my system to get beyond 230mhz? This post has been edited by fylon: Aug 12 2007, 10:02 PM |
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Aug 13 2007, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 13 2007, 12:39 AM) Oii, what the hell are you talking about man, that time i oc my 3.0E to 4GHz i'm using the ICute Twin Fan 450W psu also lar. Calm down calm down! Hahah! Ic.. All cap palang stuff can get that high speed? Really Chapalang PSU liao. As i said earlier, it's teh motherboard itself. So, what board are you getting from Ebay?    eh! Im using the what iCute extreme cool type. Also got 2 fan la! Haha! Oh yea.. I found something strange. When i go clock over 3.5Ghz right? I cant touch the cpu cooler, it seems like cooler was charged with electric. When touched, my hand will get shock.  But it ok if the clock is below 3.5Ghz....... Wad the heck is going on?? Izit something go short circuted? Or the PSU didnt get grounded?Ar? Havent get any board from ebay yet! Just survey only! Haha! My current mobo was get from a emmier a forumer here! Hehe! |
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Aug 13 2007, 09:22 AM
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LOL!! Sounds that iCute stuff wasnt that really "BAD" eh? Still can bring ya system to 4G bro shawty.
Guess like im now need a better casing instead of getting new parts! Saving up!! Go go go! Just survey on niclasteoh new thread about the RaidMax casing. Seems not bad eh! Especially the Ninja series looks cool! Only RM308 not so pricy!Btw, anyone know about my system problem? Is it something didnt get grounded or short circuited? |
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Aug 13 2007, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 13 2007, 09:26 AM) This may cause by PSU but not sure why.I also facing this problem before,the casing was charged with electric too. But after a while the electric was gone and back to normal already. Mine the casing still touchable. No charged on it. But just The CD-Rom and cooler was charged up. Cant be touched. Will get electric short. Last time got this kinda of problem before, but suddenly it back to normal but now comes agian. Especially i go high speed. |
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Aug 13 2007, 01:11 PM
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Hm.. Last night just do clearning and cable management wo. Reapply all the thermal paste and clean the dust. Re-apply all the thing already still lidat.. Really Sweat la! Donno what happen.
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Aug 14 2007, 11:15 PM
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Hi ac_N1! Welcome to the old sch club! Haha! Gosh.. I tried 3 time with replug in all the power cord and make sure everything is tighten and screw well, but at the end i still have voltage leaking case.
Now then know, not just the cooler is having voltage charge around, but my power supply and cd-rom the metal part also have.Guess is time to change new PSU.. Say bye bye to the old iCute! Hm.. SilverStone Strider ST400 good? Aiming this PSU.. Btw, just tried my new card. Average can get 40-50fps in NFS: Carbon with 4x AA on, full detail @ 1024x768 resolution!! This card really kicking for me!  This post has been edited by fylon: Aug 14 2007, 11:28 PM |
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Aug 15 2007, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(edministrator @ Aug 14 2007, 11:50 PM) try changing your power cord 1st, might be the power cord's grounding is problematic. Found the problem source!! Is the extension that i used to connection my pc and speaker having grounding problem! I just took the extension off and direct plug into the wall socket and run the pc. Then problem resolved! Happy! save money some bucks for getting myself a new case! RaiDMax Ninja here i come! @GCI99 Hi! Welcom to the club! Hah! Btw, P4P800E-dlx is kinda hard to find now. Wish u luck to get this legend mobo!  |
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Aug 15 2007, 10:34 AM
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Haha... Everyone is comparing procs and GC score now huh? LOL! Btw, i just resolved my problem, i was wander will the ungrounded electron cs my rigs hit the OC wall.. Will try it tonight! See actually how far can my rigs go! Hehe!
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Aug 15 2007, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(edministrator @ Aug 15 2007, 10:49 AM) i doubt your oc could be pushed higher but good luck! i just added 2 80mm silent fans last nite to my side panel, pulling hot air out from the case, seems to be working. but last night was breezy, so gonna test it when the ambient temp is high, see how well the fans work to pull air out from the case. Yea.. But i think i hit the wall due to the over voltage & charge in my rigs due to the stupid extension plug having problem! Gona get new plug tonight and try agian see how far actually can OC. Squeeze more juice! Hehe! Hm.. Something about fan.. Pull out better or blow in? Im currently having 2 fan whch are blowing into my rigs from side pan and 1 90mm exhuast fan which pull out from my cooler. Seems not enough. My GC dam hot.. Can reach 65'c during gaming. QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Aug 15 2007, 11:36 AM) Everyone seems to be in the overclocking mood... Haha! Yea.. OC Mood now! Pushing old sch to the limit! But nowadays the wheather wasnt so good. Ambient temp not consistant le.. Hard to OC during hot day!I'm aiming for another 5MHz increase in FSB after my new RAM cooler fans arrive, currently my RAMs are limiting me  |
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Aug 15 2007, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(edministrator @ Aug 15 2007, 12:19 PM) I think may differ due to different case designs. but for my experience, most casings gets better airflow by pulling air out of the case since the hot air inside being sucked out. the front intake will serve as the air pull into the case. if installed the other way round, fresh air, or most likely our hot ambient air (in non air-conditioned room) kept pushed into the case, making the temp higher even though you have exhaust fan cause it is not able to pull the air out fast enough. just my 2 cents. Yea... Make sense thou! Alright.. Get 2 80mm fan from my shop and try it tonight. i think there are no guarantees, you should just try out yourself and gauge the temp to see which is better, since its a simple job of reversing the fan mounting only. my rig overall temp dropped 3-4C by using this method, verified by kabukiawie, lol.  as for your 9800pro, 65C during load is normal, that card is a heat monster. i highly recommend you get a better cooler to tame the heat.  I got around 2'c temp drop by changing the old crappy 80mm exhaust fan with the Zalman 90mm! QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 15 2007, 02:09 PM) My 5900 is also getting this temperature when on full load with o/c. I'm using stock cooler on it,very low profile fan on the display card. Oh well.. Mine was running on stock speed and makes this high temp! Thats make me dare not to mod my card into XT even though it can be mod.  |
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Aug 15 2007, 09:36 PM
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Wow.. Nice score u have! Btw, u sold ya GC already right? Haha! Now using what GC then?
Seems like the voltage leak really stop my rigs to OC higher. After resolved the problem and now my rigs could run on 3.55Ghz stable. Aiming to reach 3.6Ghz when i got my fan.My cpu temp was drop by 2'c after changed the fan blowing. For my crappy casing, pull out the hot air better then blow in the ambient air! Not Bad thou! Got 2'c down! |
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Aug 16 2007, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Aug 16 2007, 11:45 AM) guys ..i ask this question at Choosing The Right PSU Thread but still nobody respond ... gimme opinion please ... is this psu FSP-ATX-400PN enough for my rig spec as siggy ? maybe wanna try oc a bit and i'm using 3 x 80mm case fan .... don't have much budget and i'm dying wanna try oc my rig .. LOL! Bro, why dont try SilverStone Strider ST400? I saw there is a bulk for this PSU le. Not bad thou.. Plan to get this for myself. Only RM169. Look around at bulk sales then u will found it. Haha! Seems like everyone is pushing their rigs to the limit huh.. S478 long life! Gona try mine tonight for @ 3.6Ghz! See how was it. Btw, edministrator how many prime program do u run at a time? I usually run 2 simultaneous at a time to make sure the cpu usage is 100% so can see the real performance and the stablilty of the system. |
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Aug 16 2007, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Aug 16 2007, 07:25 PM) i'm considering that options to ... wanna look at that Gigabyte 460W first at bulk .... still don't have much details on that psu Lol.. Yup! Silverstone not bad thou! Wanting to get that psu soon! Hehe! My next target! QUOTE(edministrator @ Aug 16 2007, 07:35 PM) i use latest orthos with blend settings on priority 10, it automatically detects how many virtual or physical core your have and execute the apps to crunch your cpu accordingly. it will beep you if got errors, i like it, hehe... here's the link: Yo bro.. Thx for the link! I was using the old version orthos thou. Was running it now! Yup! That i like too, it will beep whenever error found! Nice feature. Hhehe! My latest OC result as below:http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/orthos_exe_20060420.cab have fun, bro... CPU running at 3.6Ghz = 240FSB * 15 Vcore = 1.5v vdimm = 2.85v Ram timing = 3-4-4-8 (The loosen that my ram can go) Idle temp : 38'c Full load: 49'c Priming software: Orthos Prming time: 3hrs and no error found. (Now still priming while reply to this thread!) Conclusion: Satisfy! |
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Aug 16 2007, 09:19 PM
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Haha.. Unfortunately mine cant run on stock vcore. It failed me 6mins after priming. system go restart. I suspect the vcore isnt enough then i increase it to 1.5v and now running fine now. 3hrs priming and no defect found.
Yup.. On air with 3.6Ghz lo.. My full load is below 50'c now. Not sure hows the temp will go during hot day. |
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Aug 16 2007, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Aug 16 2007, 09:31 PM) Oh, which means that your priming is done in a cold room? Nop. I done it on my own room. Which aircon is off. Normal ambient temp thou. Today didnt rain and the sun is kinda big. Ambient temp got around atleast 30'c if im not wrong. Haha! Mine is around 55C on full load if the air-conditioning's turned on, otherwise it's 65C. If I have the time, I'm gonna try 2x256MB BH5s and 2x256MB D43s to see if I can clock my PC any further. Im currently running on 2x D43 chip and 2x TCCC chip ram. Edit: By then i done it with side panel off, 1 exhaust at the back, 3 from the side. Only my cooler is the pulling the air in. Others all is pull out. QUOTE(edministrator @ Aug 16 2007, 09:36 PM) wow, prescott really lots of oc headroom... Bro, ya procs wasnt Prescott? Actually i dint know my rigs can go so fast as well. Just discover it after the voltage leaking issue it resolved. This post has been edited by fylon: Aug 16 2007, 09:46 PM |
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Aug 19 2007, 01:11 PM
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The only way to identify ur GC core is take off the heatsink and look at the chip. As for my case, the windows detected my 9800PRO with R350 core but actually on the pbc board my card is using R360 core. So, there is no way to identify actually what core ur using with software unless u take physically move by take off the heatsink and look at it.
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Aug 19 2007, 01:15 PM
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Yea. The is two batch of 98PRO card, first batch is using the R350 core and the later batch is using R360.
As if the card is using R360 core, and have the thermal sensor chip then is possible to soft mod it into xt care. Search over the net then u will find the article tells about this card and how to mod it. |
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Aug 19 2007, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Aug 19 2007, 02:03 PM) I already plan to softmod it..... I'll dismantle the HSF tonight Hehe.. I was owning a R360 and moddable 9800Pro now. Plan to mod it into xt. Do check this before u do any modding task. And must change ur hsf as well. Im on my way to mod an old AMD scoket A heatsink into my gc heatsink.  Hopefully it's a R360 core By then, try OC ur gc til xt speed and run benchmark see is there any artifact on ur card when running on xt speed. If there dun have any artifacts means ur card is able to corp at that speed. |
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Aug 19 2007, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(Mooneyes @ Aug 19 2007, 06:11 PM) crap..after testing asrock 775i865gv i found that it sucks..stupid mobo..guess i'll have to send it back n take my s478 mobo..but at least its better Haha.. Trade back ya s478 system ba! S478 far more rock then LG775 eh!Btw guys, wandering a question. I prime my system for more then 36 hrs and 1 error found. Is that means my system wasnt stable?  Was using the latest version of ORthros, running at pariority 9 stress RAM and CPU. This what i get from the log. Does my system stable?FATAL ERROR: Final result was 418CB13B, expected: 248EF622. Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file. Torture Test ran 36 hours, 57 minutes 51 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings. Execution halted. P/s: I just found that my ram cant be tighten up anymore. Restart several time when i tried to tighten the time from 2.5-4-4-8 to 2.5-4-4-6. Guess gota leave it stay at the loosen timing.Edit: Typo This post has been edited by fylon: Aug 19 2007, 10:42 PM |
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