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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V3<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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raymond5105
post Aug 15 2007, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Aug 15 2007, 12:19 PM)
I think may differ due to different case designs. but for my experience, most casings gets better airflow by pulling air out of the case since the hot air inside being sucked out. the front intake will serve as the air pull into the case. if installed the other way round, fresh air, or most likely our hot ambient air (in non air-conditioned room) kept pushed into the case, making the temp higher even though you have exhaust fan cause it is not able to pull the air out fast enough. just my 2 cents.  biggrin.gif

i think there are no guarantees, you should just try out yourself and gauge the temp to see which is better, since its a simple job of reversing the fan mounting only.  wink.gif my rig overall temp dropped 3-4C by using this method, verified by kabukiawie, lol.  whistling.gif

as for your 9800pro, 65C during load is normal, that card is a heat monster. i highly recommend you get a better cooler to tame the heat.  thumbup.gif
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My 5900 is also getting this temperature when on full load with o/c. I'm using stock cooler on it,very low profile fan on the display card. smile.gif
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post Aug 21 2007, 09:33 AM

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Usually the CPC is recommended to be disable according the overclockers in other forum,the reason behind is to get higher fsb. Another thing is also to play with the GAT/PAT settings.
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post Aug 21 2007, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 21 2007, 10:37 AM)
too bad in p4p800x the pat settings is really limited. hmm...... hows your p4p800x pat setting?? share share...hehe
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I just keep the setting in stock except changing the memory timing in bios only.I got nothing to set with even my RAM divider. sad.gif
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post Aug 22 2007, 10:20 AM

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Oh,nice stuff.Got 3.4GHz Gallatin for sale. Hehe,don't know how much will the proc let go.... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 22 2007, 03:15 PM

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Wao the proc already sold off man.RM650 for it......It's really fetching a good price.No chance to grab also if i want.RM650 now can get the E6600. cool.gif
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post Aug 22 2007, 04:00 PM

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I myself not recommend on P2D,i rather get the E21xx series.That processor now is very cheap only.You can get the proc and moderate mobo with RM650.
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post Aug 22 2007, 04:26 PM

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Enable PAT on the mobo with using Tweak865,i very seldom run it on 255FSB as the northbridge is very hot when loading.Usually i run at lower FSB like 235 or 240 like that. PAT performance on the mobo is not noticable in SuperPI and other software application,i feel like there is a little bit boost in gaming.
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post Aug 22 2007, 04:42 PM

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erm...while loading the game..i can feel it's a liitle bit faster.Maybe you try to feel up and see. tongue.gif Else i might have the wrong sense on it.
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post Aug 22 2007, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 22 2007, 04:57 PM)
i have see the boost in sandra memory benchmark with PAT enable. others hardly see the different. sad.gif
i see. btw, you are running 1:1? 5:4?? ofcoz for your p4p800x. tongue.gif as a reference.
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I'm running on 5:4 only as my RAM is DDR333.Between the increment of bandwidth is really help in gaming.
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post Aug 22 2007, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 22 2007, 09:31 PM)
oh? any changes?? can oc more??

@raymond
hmm....its really sweet as you are running 4 sticks of ram and still manage to rock that high. thumbup.gif
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I think the board should be little better than P4P800-X as the vDimm can set higher and more options in the bios setting. biggrin.gif Well my RAM ...4 sticks of them will just running on DDr400 if i set 250FSB. I bet my BT-J can do better if vDimm can go higher. wink.gif
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post Aug 23 2007, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 22 2007, 11:46 PM)
like what edministrator told me, his p4p800 is holding the ocability coz of the 4 slots of rams. 2 stick is stable and full slots is not. your bt-j really a gem. laugh.gif if you using ic7 instead of p4p800x, 3.5GHz is not a problem. wink.gif
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Yes i think my 2.6C can go at least 3.4GHz if the vDimm can set higher. biggrin.gif But i'm not planning to swap it now as i have bring my IC7 to penang now.

QUOTE(pengster @ Aug 23 2007, 12:08 AM)
have not tested the oc yet.just fixed all the stuff in and waiting for the ceramique to break in. laugh.gif at least now i have the option to push the vdimm up to 3.3v and vagp to 2v  biggrin.gif
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vDimm to 3.3v and vAGP to 2v ? blink.gif Doesn't they are too high ?
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post Aug 23 2007, 11:35 AM

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If vDimm 3.3v normal RAM is not recommended to run that high unless using CH or BH chipset. sweat.gif vAGP i always use the stock at 1.5v. Does the vAGP affecting our o/c result ?
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post Aug 23 2007, 03:51 PM

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Oh,i see.So many years i use the mobos but i have never try to increase the vAGP for stable my GC. mega_shok.gif P4P800-x only has the options to increment the RAM and CPU voltage only.
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post Aug 23 2007, 05:15 PM

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vAGP supplies voltage to the northbridge ? This one i never heard about it. Need to do some searching regarding vAGP. sweat.gif

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post Aug 23 2007, 09:11 PM

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VAGP of up to 1.65V is useful for stability of some graphics cards and provides for better stability under high FSB operation.
Guys,i found some info about the vAGP at the link below,it's stated as above.But don't know why i can't view all the pictures here. sad.gif

http://www.vr-zone.com/print.php?i=53
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post Aug 24 2007, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(KahLooN @ Aug 24 2007, 01:26 AM)
I guess overclockalbert has help me out from my doubt.
@pengster
Well i would say in long run it will benefits. I myself not really test the difference from a low VAGP and high VAGP, but since it is proven I guess it is better. smile.gif
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If that's the case will try it when free. smile.gif Hope after increse the vAGP can increase more FSB. rclxms.gif
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post Aug 24 2007, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Aug 24 2007, 12:22 PM)
Back from a long run outstation work! tongue.gif Hm.. About upping the vAGP, i do try before with my system. I dont know whether is true or not but i do feel the stability of increasing it. i upped mine from 1.5v to 1.6 and i could prime my rigs in 3.65Ghz, 1:1 ratio with Orthos priority 10 for 5hrs without shutting down. Before increasing the vAGP my system failed on priority 10 priming after 30mins priming.

Thats what i feel by upping the vAGP! drool.gif
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Wah so nice.Then i must give a try on this already. You try to raise it to 1.65v or not ? Will this make the northbridge hot ?
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post Aug 24 2007, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 24 2007, 03:36 PM)
hmm....it seems that now everyone is busying playing with vagp. I am out from the party...cry.gif cry.gif

@raymond
what vcore you use for your p4p800x?? i mean you set in bios. i currently set to 1.575v. dont know safe or not. hmm....temp is not a problem.
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I still haven't try on the vAGP yet.Haha. My P4P800-X is just using the stock vCore,i think stock for northwood is 1.525v right ? Yesterday i read the review i posted regarding vAGP saying that my Abit board is report inaccurate vcore and vdimm as the software got a bit error in reporting the correct voltage. rolleyes.gif Now only i know the software got error in reporting,haha.

QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Aug 24 2007, 05:23 PM)
For my board, increasing Vagp does help stabilise FSB. But most overclockers say that ATI graphic cards are very sensitive to voltage, because it puts more stress on the MOSFETs on the card.

To add salt to the wound, I replaced one of the MOSFETs on my 9700 PRO with a lower quality version because one accidentally got ripped out when I pulled the heatplate off laugh.gif

I just changed to a new LianLi aluminium case yesterday, temperatures definitely have dropped since my old casing. To add, I'm lovin' the brushed aluminium biggrin.gif

But since my new casing has no sideport to blow cool air directly to the processor, my processor fan rose from 2700 RPM to a warp-speed 4500 RPM! It spins so fast till the whole casing starts to rattle and vibrate. And to add, the fan now sounds almost like a tornado inside... sad.gif
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Looks like you can begin to mod your li-lian already. tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2007, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 24 2007, 09:41 PM)
wao....got lian li already. drool.gif

you using stock hfs?? stock fan really expert in making live hardrock concert in your casing. damn loud. sad.gif
cool, stock vcore manage to go till that far. now i just running at 242. really hope that it can stable at 250 but too bad. 3:2 can go till 250, but performance really sucks.  doh.gif
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3:2 divider really bad,the memory is running at extreme low frequency sweat.gif Maybe u try on 245 rather than 250 first,see it's going to stable or not.
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post Aug 25 2007, 01:32 PM

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If we can mod our P4P800-x vDimm easily to 2.8v,sure our proc on it will fly. cheers.gif IF u success to go 250FSB, tongue.gif tongue.gif you will be on 3.5GHz + already.240FSB on the board is preety good already. Don't forget the mobo is max out at 3.6GHz if i'm not mistaken.

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