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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V40, EFL Cup - Chelsea 3 - 2 Bristol Rovers

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post Mar 20 2016, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Mar 20 2016, 12:54 AM)
So what if you think he should have started the game. You asked why he was brought on? And he showed it. Whether or not he starts the game has no impact on the decision to sub him in which has paid off. By your logic if a player who should have started the game but did not, should not even be considered to bring on even when the manager for whatever reason realized his mistakes and tries to rectify it albeit late. Heard of better late than never?
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Like I said don't get your panties in a twist. It's all good if you're a fan of the old and outdated school of late subs for players who were useless for 99% of the game. But I'm not.

'better late than never' in your opinion. All I see is a coach who's afraid to take risks in what's left of a season with NOTHING to fight for. RLC should've started or at least oscar should've been nowhere near the squad.

Undeserved favoritism for players such as ivanovic,matic,etc is what got us to this position in the first place so yes I'm not a fan of players being in the first 11 based on reputation alone.

Go enjoy whatever team you're supporting mate. Why stress yourself reading a thread of mostly frustrated fans this season? laugh.gif
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post Mar 20 2016, 01:12 AM

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Equaliser was down to oscar giving away the ball and west ham broke with speed. Yep poor marking from Iva and courtois can't even catch a cold these days.

But it all started from that one mistake. I'm going to be highly critical of oscar as he's been horrible,arguably from day one. Gets on my nerves when players with room to GROW and DEVELOP such as kenedy and RLC are kept out because good ol' oscar somehow casts this great illusion of being great which has worked on mourinho and now,guus.

Baffling. Can't get my head around it really. MOTM fabregas,by a country mile. The others...haih.
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post Mar 20 2016, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Mar 20 2016, 01:16 AM)
No like I said. Decision to bring him on as a sub has no relevance to the decision to not start him. Completely different cases here. I'm not disagreeing with you that he should have started the game instead of Oscar. You questioned the decision/point of bringing him on yet it was immediately justified. The criticism should not have been "what's the point of bringing him on" because the point is to rectify the mistake you just mentioned, that he should have started but it doesn't mean the substitution is wrong, just that the mistake of not starting him shouldn't have been made in the first place.

Note that I'm in complete agreement that Oscar is overrated and shouldn't have started. A "lazy" Mata would still have been more productive than Oscar's overall output. Remember there was a time people thought Oscar>Coutinho?
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Hmm okay yep u do have a point. Guess the utter frustration of watching chelsea (specifically oscar) makes me post some weird stuff sometimes. Apologies bro.

I guess I just wish RLC started and we might even have won the match,as exhibited by his dangerous runs into the box. He made 2 good attacking runs/movements,one resulted in a (debatable) penalty and the other left him with an unmarked shot in the box. That was within a space of 10 minutes,imagine if he got 45 or 90. But as always these things are subjective,he might've got 90 minutes and still have an atrocious game.

Yes Guus tried to rectify that mistake..but man he took his time doing it. The biggest consolation is it did have an impact (hence it wasn't pointless, as you said) , and hopefully he trusts him enough to give him more playing time.

p s: oscar must be an absolute beast in training,that's my only theory so far. Well I'd rather have kevin de bruyne who doesn't train as 'hard' (as infamously claimed by jose) but brings his A game during matchday. Enough of players who flatter to deceive, and I hope conte realises oscar's true 'ability' really soon.(preferably when the transfer window's still open)
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post Apr 2 2016, 08:11 PM

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Loftus cheeeekkkk biggrin.gif
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post Apr 2 2016, 08:12 PM

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Brilliant skill by mikel to spread it out to the right as well icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 2 2016, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Apr 2 2016, 08:15 PM)
Fuark baba!
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Hahaha I think that was a bit unlucky
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Arrgghhhh so close from rubeeennnn
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post Apr 2 2016, 08:32 PM

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Penalty won by patoooooo wooooottttttt!
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post Apr 2 2016, 08:33 PM

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Puts it away confidently!!!
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post Apr 2 2016, 09:07 PM

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Great shot by Pato,leading up to pedro's tap in.
Willian and hazard don't take nearly enough shots like that when they're out wide. It's always dribble,dribble,and dribble some more
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Nice,another debut smile.gif

Now a cleansheet will make this a perfect performance tongue.gif

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post Apr 2 2016, 09:31 PM

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They're trying to get our players hurt. Sheesh. Glad loftus cheek got up from that. Obscene challenge from hutton sweat.gif
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post Apr 2 2016, 09:39 PM

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Cleansheet. Wow. Miss those!
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Welcome Antonio Conte!I think he'll do pretty well with us. Italy play some slick stuff,though I'm not sure how much they've evolved under him. Any Italy fans care to enlighten us? smile.gif
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Paul Parker saying the arsenal team lack balls on the live post match discussion. Astro Supersport censorship team must've had their jaws on the floor laugh.gif
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post Apr 9 2016, 10:08 PM

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Great to see loftus cheek,miazga and pato in there smile.gif

Oscar..hmm not so much.
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post Apr 9 2016, 10:29 PM

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Team looks shaky. No cutting edge,pato has had zero service
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Defense has been absolutely horrible. Back four really playing like school boys.

Oscar off please. As usual.
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post Apr 9 2016, 11:14 PM

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Pato doing all sorts of party tricks except doing his primary job which is putting the ball in the bloody net.

Movement has improved slightly though.
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post Apr 9 2016, 11:19 PM

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Ivanovic rubbish as usual. False dawn,mikel saved us from going 2 down.

Loftus cheek needs to up his aggression considerably. He's been much much too soft in the fifty2 challenges.

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