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isaacchew
post Mar 5 2019, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(hlee077 @ Mar 4 2019, 03:21 PM)
Hi all, anyone compared overseas transactions currency rate for the 2 cards? Since both cards give 5x tp for overseas transaction. Any significant difference in the rate? I remember I read the Amex card for overseas spending will calculate into US dollar first, then add on a certain % ( more than 1%).. so which card to use for overseas merchant? Thanks!
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I've done some comparison on forex the past few years, and the AmBank World MasterCard has the lowest forex rates. In their terms and conditions they state that they take the Mastercard rate (https://www.mastercard.co.uk/en-gb/consumer...t-currency.html) + 1% markup.

Big Pay uses the same Mastercard rate + 0% markup. The problem is that you hardly earn any points with BP. So the workaround is to topup BP with your M2P VI, and swipe BP overseas, u get the best of both worlds.

And yes, Amex double converts - convert to USD first, then convert again to MYR, then adds a 2.5% loading. Not worth it.

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post Mar 15 2019, 12:25 PM

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Moving on.... wonder whether this statement would make people more wary of redeeming TP to Enrich points..
Malaysia to decide fate of Malaysia Airlines soon, PM says
Though there's national pride involved so it won't totally just be based on just dollars and cents.
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post Mar 15 2019, 12:42 PM

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Lol, i think they'd prefer people paying full price for a business class ticket, than those redeeming air miles.

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post Mar 15 2019, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 15 2019, 01:03 PM)
Still got sq and cx to redeem to....enrich system is pretty bad after the changed from sector based redemption to market price....
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Enrich, you can still get decent deals as it's based on supply and demand. So when fares are low, miles redemption is low. Few months ago I redeemed KL-Tokyo business class return for 100k miles.

limeuu / anyone else.. I've been relying on Enrich in the past as I wasn't sure how the Krisflyer waitlist system works. Mind sharing how KrisFlyer / Asia Miles compares to Enrich? Obviously it adds another transit point, but apart from that:
1. Which FFP gets you better value?
2. How does the wait list system work?
3. Any other comments about the difference between these FFP?

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post Mar 15 2019, 09:47 PM

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Thanks all for the info..

QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 15 2019, 06:03 PM)
When the redemption is low, the price is also cheap, so sometimes it isn't worth redemption.... especially y class....

NRT j return for 100k is not cheap, just 3 years ago you can get j return to LHR for 93k....

I never wait list with sq, they have multiple flights, so choose one that's available....it's an additional stop, but needs the same miles as from SIN, ie KL (or any Msia point) - sin is free....and I use the stop over as a free holiday in Singapore....either long layover, or the free stopover for 1 or 2 nights....meet friends, relatives, eat etc....
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That was 3 years ago. Now I don't think can find j return for that amount. For similar-ish distance, Enrich KL to London / Melbourne is maybe 200k miles.

QUOTE(rivetindigo @ Mar 15 2019, 05:03 PM)
Im new here, is there a promo where it will be cheaper to redeem our enrich miles? What is ffp?
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FFP = frequent flyer program

QUOTE(charlesj @ Mar 15 2019, 06:07 PM)
No best FFP, just which one has the seat you needed.
For KF waitlist, if you MUST fly on that date, don't go for waitlist.
They may only confirm your seat 1 month, or even 2 days before departure.
If you are super flexible (or at least you have an alternative), go ahead then.

There is no definite calculation for the "value".
Of course you need to know the main difference.
Enrich is price-based; KF is zone-based; AM is distance-based.
Enrich is fluctuating depending on price, you may get super good value redemption.
The value also depending on which location/country you are going.
Generally I will say not much difference and most important is to find an available seat.
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Yea I guess you're right. Just having a direct KL to wherever flight seems more convenient. The only drawback is MAS doesn't fly to many places. Will try checking out the other FFPs. More headache though having to keep track of all 3 ffp, plus my wife has her own ffp, so miles will be split all over the place.. mega_shok.gif

Btw, has anyone been able to redeem Enrich on One World partner airlines (Qatar etc)? I've tried a few times over the years, every time it is a tedious process of having to manually call up and wait as they slowly check airline by airline, and date by date, and in the end there's always nothing available.
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post Mar 15 2019, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ Mar 15 2019, 09:53 PM)
U have to use others ffp online search for avaibility first and write down all flight number etc then only call them
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Thx. Never occurred to me to do that. Will try in future.
But I think it might not be just plain availability per se, and more so how many seats are allocated to partner airlines. e.g. Qatar might only allocate 2 economy seats per flight to MAS.
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post Mar 15 2019, 11:51 PM

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Ok, thanks for the info!
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post Mar 24 2019, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(nabnab12345 @ Mar 22 2019, 12:12 PM)
Actually KF is about the only program in the world who does not match credit card name to KF name. So short answer is yes, your wife can transfer miles to your account.
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I think AmBank supplementary cardholder can also redeem miles to their own Enrich account, instead of just to the principal

And for those asking above, I'm able to top up to Boost using M2P Amex. Though if I'm not mistaken, if you check out the Boost thread, it's kinda hit and miss with some people having problems topping up with certain methods on Boost ,while for others it goes through fine. Also, apparently once you use a card to top up a Boost account, you cannot use the same card to top up a different Boost account.

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post Mar 26 2019, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Mar 26 2019, 01:28 PM)
If you buy 25k worth of big items. U only get 50k tp. If u r targeting vouchers. Every 500 get 1 ringgit worth of vouchers. Your 50k tp only get you RM100 worth of cash voucher. It equivalent to 0.4% cash back for that spending. In reality it is lesser than 0.4% as the cash voucher (eg Giant voucher) that you use will not qualify for grocery cash back. So, if you can get another cash back card that can offer you at least 0.4% cb, it is definately better than using the MUVI swiping on non match day.
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But if you convert 50k TP to 11k Miles, that's worth more than RM100.
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post Mar 31 2019, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(hlee077 @ Mar 29 2019, 08:41 AM)
Want to ask if I use Amex to pay income tax with 0.8% surcharge. Do I qualify for 5x TP? or does it count as Government bodies with no TP?
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Is it worth it? Say you have RM10k of tax to pay.
0.8% surcharge = RM80
Using MBB Amex KF to pay, you get 5000 Miles
If 1 Mile = RM0.04, that's worth RM200

Okay I guess there's RM120 'earnings'. Something's better than nothing, but not worth the hassle unless one already has the card, or unless you have a huge amount of tax to pay.
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post Mar 31 2019, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 31 2019, 05:20 AM)
If you have enough tax to pay, ie over 60k, you will get double miles....

The mile nominal value is actually 2.5sen, not 4sen....
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What do you mean by double miles for over RM60k? For 60k spend, wouldn't you get 30k KF Miles?

I thought the generally accepted value of 1 Mile is RM0.04-0.05. My own calculations for my redemptions also gets at least RM0.04/mile.

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post Apr 1 2019, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(kelvintt @ Mar 31 2019, 10:05 PM)
Kick off Wed 2:45am. Should swipe on Tue, right?
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Checking bookie odds, upcoming matches are:
3 Apr Wolves v MU 2.45am (50% chance of winning)
14 Apr Mu v West ham 12.30am (70-75% chance of winning)
21 Apr Everton v MU 8.30pm
28 Apr MU v Chelsea 11.30pm

First 2 matches you'll need to gamble, as you won't know the results beforehand. And out of the 2, Everton is the safer bet as there's a higher chance of winning.

You could also wait until the Everton match where you'd know the results before the day is over. The problem is if MU loses, the next match is vs Chelsea which is tougher (though you'll be able to watch the first 30 mins before you decide what to do).

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post Apr 1 2019, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Apr 1 2019, 04:56 PM)
I like the 2 cards premier, was wondering placing Fixed Deposit 20K enough for me to get the cards?
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Do a search, there were some discussions some time back on placing FD. The best is to walk into 1U/Maybank card centre and ask them what's needed.

Also, anecdotal experience, just 2 weeks back my friend walked into Maybank card centre. They said since he has an existing Maybank card with at least 30k credit limit, they granted instant approval for the M2P.

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post Apr 3 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Apr 2 2019, 05:50 PM)
Pay direct or top up to BigPay and then only pay to LHDN?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lilsunflower @ Apr 2 2019, 08:29 PM)
BP. No point paying direct right since LHDN is government.
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So you all pay 0.8% extra, to earn 5x TP, which is worth more?
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post Apr 12 2019, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(Rooivalkx @ Apr 11 2019, 05:17 PM)
when will the 5x TP from MU winning be posted to credit card account usually? extra points from the match on March 30th still not in...
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How do you all track / verify that all points comes in? I read before that some people said they do TP reconciliation? From the statement it seems to show a pretty limited breakdown. Actually, anyone got an explanation what all these terms in the statement means?
Visa Infinite Overseas Spend
Visa Infinite Local Spend
Overseas Spend
Amex Reserve 4x Spend
Petrol Points

I guess some are self explanatory. But what's the difference VI Overseas Spend & an Overseas Spend? Why is Amex 4x instead of 5x? And what is Petrol Points?

Also, in M2U website, in the points section there is a separate item called Membership Points? Any idea what this is?
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post Apr 12 2019, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(charlesj @ Apr 12 2019, 07:25 AM)
VI overseas = overseas spend with your VI
Overseas = Amex
Amex 4x because already have 1x in the total
Petrol = spend on petrol lo

Try to tally these figure from your statement.
Not too hard to understand.
Take some time especially first time.
I have an excel sheet to tally with, but when transaction increases, sometimes lazy to update.
The excel sheet already have all formulas, just fill in the figures and it will auto calculate everything, including how many miles more I needed for my next redemption (now 0, gonna make some redemption soon tongue.gif)
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Haha. You're on another level!

So basically, let's say I spend the following:
VI Petrol = RM100
Amex Petrol = RM200
VI Local = RM300
VI Overseas =RM400
Amex Local = RM500
Amex Overseas = RM600


My statement would show the following?
TP earned for the month = 100 + 200 + 300 + 400 + 500 + 600 = 2100
Multiple TP earned at Participating Partners for the month = 6000, where
Petrol Points = 100x1 + 200x4
VI Local Spend = 300x1
VI Overseas Spend = 400x1
Amex Reserve 4x Spend = 500x4
Overseas Spend = 600x4

Or if you don't mind sharing your hardwork you can DM me your excel.. rclxm9.gif

EDIT:
Checking my statement I think petrol is counted separately, so it should be:
TP earned for the month = 300 + 400 + 500 +600 = 1800
Multiple TP earned at Participating Partners for the month = 6300, where
Petrol Points = 100x2 + 200x5
VI Local Spend = 300x1
VI Overseas Spend = 400x1
Amex Reserve 4x Spend = 500x4
Overseas Spend = 600x4
Also, there are small discrepancies from just multiplying the "total debit this month" .. I assume it's because for each individual transaction the amount is rounded down.

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post Apr 12 2019, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(charlesj @ Apr 12 2019, 02:16 PM)
I think more or less correct, didn't check back my statement.
Not too sure whether "TP earned for month" including overseas spend (petrol is excluded)
VI Overseas spend shall be 400x4 (or 400x5, not too sure)
If you have MUVI, it further complicated the statement tongue.gif
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Okok thanks. never bothered checking statement as I just assumed it's correct and all auto-generated. but at least I understand it more now.
I just got MUVI last month, will check that too (btw, those that do what's your strategy? I think I'll top up to BP 5k tmrw, and another 5k for the Everton game as it's an early game)
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post Apr 13 2019, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Apr 12 2019, 10:23 PM)
Tomorrow got match to top up?
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MU v West Ham Sunday 12.30am, means need to top up on Saturday, 13th Apr
Odds for MU winning is around 72%
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post Apr 13 2019, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Apr 13 2019, 12:23 AM)
Ya...thats right..not those confirmed type..
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Ya, vs Everton following week is confirmed type. But winning odds is only 44%.
After that is vs Chelsea which is an even tougher match.
So some 'gambling' is required. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2019, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 13 2019, 05:22 PM)
It’s calculated risk I guess. Either to take a risk on an “easier” match but can’t decide last minute OR take a risk on harder matches but can decide last minute. Plus the harder matches are much later this month so if you miss the West Ham boat you may not get the 5X TP anymore for this month.
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Totally agree. This is the easiest match of the month. Everton and Chelsea are much tougher matches. I'll put some today, and a bit more leave for Everton.

QUOTE(lilsunflower @ Apr 13 2019, 06:31 PM)
No choice.  Bought flights this morning on Singapore airlines, which were denominated in SGD.

Was debating whether I should use Amex Reserve (to get guaranteed 5x TP, but pay high forex conversion charges), or load BP with MUVI (taking gamble to get 2x or 5x) and pay using BP to enjoy lower forex rate.  Ended up choosing the latter and now at the mercy of MU.
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Without a doubt I'd use MUVI even if there's no match.
The extra amount you end up paying from the high forex is way more than the TP you'll earn.
Plus since there's a match today, even more reason to use MUVI

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