mintak tolong ask them when focus ST coming?

sudah test belum?

RM21K difference between the Trend and Sport+ models is too much for the same engine and body. If you are in the market for a Focus hatchback better choose the Trend. You don't need all the assist features and auto gadgets which makes little difference to your driving experience. After a while you will probably control the headlights, wipers and aircon manually because the auto controls make asinine decisions. However if you want a basic Focus sedan you are out of luck. Wonder why this isn't offered.

However putting only 2 airbags on the Trend is a pretty bad marketing decision. They should follow Mazda 3 and have all basic safety features standard across the range with only luxury features as optional.

Still no reverse camera even for the high spec. Why leave out this highly useful safety feature Ford? Even the M3 basic spec has a reverse camera.

You can take out the keyless entry for the Trend but giving keyed ignition is just so mean. This isn't a cheap car by any means. Another meanie is mono central display for the Trend. Again, compared to the M3 GL, no keyless entry but equipped with push start and it shares the same infotainment display as the high spec.

Unless you are a hardcore Ford fan, just get the high spec M3 for a little more than the Trend and save your money. Or if you don't need all the gadgets get the M3 GL spec for RM109K and end up with a car which is still well rounded and satisfying with 6 airbags and you even get leather seats!

This post has been edited by kluseng: Mar 12 2016, 06:47 PM

All said and done, Mazda3 full spec still don't have that 180hp and 240Nm from 2k RPM, and this is why Ford is so daring with their pricing strategy. I think they even gave VW the finger with this kind of pricing (Jetta is significantly cheaper)

I was told OTR it is RM145k, not 139k.

I don't agree with SDAC's pricing of the new Focus. If you're not looking for outright power, the M3 is definitely better bang for buck.

Unless SDAC is throwing massive discounts, I can't see them moving much units.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 12 2016, 08:40 PM

If you want outright power get the Jetta 1.4TSI. With discount it can be yours for about RM110K, cheaper than the barebones Trend. Torque is 240 Nm from 1500rpm to 4500rpm. This is what gives you the pickup and the fun. DSG issues appear to be fading. In terms of after sales service hard to say which one is better or worse.

The NA Mazda 3 doesn't have the low end grunt of turbos but overall power is still very decent and better than the average family car. In a world where you can't have everything it is a good compromise between power, reliability, features and price.

You can also wait for the Civic 1.5 Turbo but it will probably be disappointing in price and power.



This post has been edited by kluseng: Mar 12 2016, 10:34 PM

Thats why I opined before its launch that it should be price similiar to the Jetta or lower, not higher and definitely not by that much. I honestly dont know what SDAC is thinking.

Too bad, I was very eagerly looking forward to own one.

Tested earlier today, torque is increased noticeable. While the brake seems on the soft part. Removed sunroof, projector xenons, change to multi spoke ugly rims with prymacy tyre.

Good side is it has paddleshift + s mode.
No low speed jerk issue, responsive gb.

Do you own the current Ford Focus? My colleague just test-drove the new Ford Focus earlier this morning. He currently owns the Ford Focus TDCI (and Mazda CX5). He is very impressed with the Ford Focus and was contemplating of replacing his Focus TDCI with this new Focus, though he agreed with me that the price is on the high side. Similarly like you, he said the car is very responsive, and there is no lag which is contradictory to what the service adviser told me earlier. He said the car's handling is even better than his Focus TDCI. And also, the car is very quiet.

One remark he made cracks me up. He said he purposely drove into all the potholes to test the car, and he is amazed that the car (and suspension) is very quiet.

If the handling of the new Focus is an improvement over the current mk3 model, tangible differences and not subtle differences, it should be very appealing indeed.

My colleague who owns the Ford Focus test drove the Jetta about 2 years ago. Although the power of the Jetta is good with better refinement and comfort than the Focus, the handling is below the Ford Focus' level. The Jetta wins some in the more refined gearbox and smooth drive, but it loses some in the handling department.

i dont own 1, but my friend do owns 1 2.0 duratec 2014 i think & i drove once.

pros: stiffer suspension, more responsive engine, better handling, no more stupid thumb control powershift, 8" touch display (no more button phobia), 8 parking sensors, no sun roof (no more afraid of rubber leaking), new auto parking assits, new city stop assists

cons: brake too soft, stupid rims design ( i prefer the old ones Y-spoke), no more xenon (it might be a good side cause cheaper) no body kits yet, the leather is ok ok 1, the new blue colour not nice, and they gave the prymacy tyre is noisy although it is not so performance tyre, it would be great if follow fiesta st's conti tyres

this is what i think

oh 12 sensors

i prefer the special bodykit for 2.0 before this... need to wait for ford offer 1 in future.

i found that that tyre is noisy... perhaps me too sensitive?? gonna change the tyre straight away if i really bought it anyways

Did you test-drive the hatchback or sedan? My colleague test-drove the sedan. Surprisingly the Ford guy also preferred the sedan over the hatchback for some unknown reasons although I read that the stability of the sedan is not as good as the Sports due to the normal suspension setting vs. the Sports suspension setting an larger 17" tyres.

Too bad the sedan will come with the same 205/60 R16 tyres. I expect the tyres to be at least 17" since the Indonesian model has 18" tyres. 16" is good for comfort but looked a bit small with a small sacrifice in handling I presume.

I tested on the hatchback, I personally preferred hatchbacks. It is noticeable stiffer suspension setting compared to previous models but I didn't test the sedan, while I once sit in it also. The smaller rims and softer suspension perhaps is a good selling point for family

I still recall the first time I drove the Ford Focus during test drive more 2 years ago, the first time I experienced the Ford. I always wanted the sedan, but I tested the hatchback first as the service centre didn't have the sedan test-drive unit at that time. I still remember the sharpness of the steering control and handling of the hatchback during the test-drive session, as I turned the steering wheel at a T-junction corner. The sharpness of the steering and overall control of the car, even at low speed, can be felt. During the test-drive session, driving along the roads below 100 km/h, I can feel the stability and solidity of the hatchback on the straights.

About a week later, I managed to find a service centre which has the sedan test-drive unit. I test-drove the Focus sedan and immediately felt a difference in the handling. The handling is not as sharp as the hatchback. No doubt the steering is still sharp during the turns, but I think the difference in the tyres and suspension between the sedan and hatchback plays a major role. The sedan's handling and stability is slightly below the hatchback, but comfort-wise it is better. The imperfections of the roads will be absorbed more efficiently by the higher profile tyres and suspension of the sedan.

In summary, if one wants better handling and often engages in spirited driving sessions, the hatchback will be the choice. The sedan is more family-orientated with a larger boot for stuff.

Not to say the handling of the Focus sedan is below-par. I do think it is still excellent. It is just that when compared to the Focus Sport hatchback, the difference shows.

well, the hatchback has a name of sport+ which means a sporty car. definitely lesser comfortableness compared sedan.

it is still a good car but for those who suka layan corner, need a more solid handling

This is enlightening!

I was looking for a comparison between the new 1.5 Ford Focus against the TDCI.

I used to own a TDCi before it got totaled in Tapah. The Ford Focus TDCi is the best cars I had ever owned in my life.

I believe out there are still many peoples share the same thought as you, I'm one of them

RM20k extra in focus compared to M3 without significant features/good driving experience (well at least to me) is just a big turn off. Although I like the design of Focus a lot

dont forget M3 is ckd but the ford focus is built in thai right?