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Cyphereza
post Mar 30 2016, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Mar 30 2016, 10:10 AM)
tried v power racing with my honda wave dash. full tank can go 100km at 110km/h. this one using carburetor aa. imagine what it could give to a fuel injection bike.  blush.gif
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I think not much. I tried RON100 vs RON97 vs RON95. Same mileage, but "rasa" macam lagi power flex.gif
Could be placebo though... laugh.gif

This post has been edited by Cyphereza: Mar 30 2016, 10:13 AM
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post Mar 30 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Mar 30 2016, 10:12 AM)
I think not much. I tried RON100 vs RON97 vs RON95. Same mileage, but "rasa" macam lagi power flex.gif
Could be placebo though... laugh.gif
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if like that. just use 95 enough la. power or no power it's all the same. blush.gif
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post Mar 30 2016, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Mar 30 2016, 10:25 AM)
if like that. just use 95 enough la. power or no power it's all the same.  blush.gif
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The higher the RON, the more efficient our engine combustion is rite? Maybe my engine already efficient enough. That's why no difference sangat...

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post Mar 30 2016, 11:01 AM

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Ron 97 vs ron 95 is much much more noticable if you use it on Modenas GT128 more powaahhh smooothh engine on ron 97. laugh.gif laugh.gif Anyone who have a GT128 would know ..

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post Mar 30 2016, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Mar 30 2016, 10:27 AM)
The higher the RON, the more efficient our engine combustion is rite? Maybe my engine already efficient enough. That's why no difference sangat...
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not really. the main criteria is engine heat/compression ratio and most important of all - ignition timing.
even carb (at least for cars, not too sure on bikes, but should be similar/same) also got distributor to adjust ignition timing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-stroke_engine

basically, ignition have to occur on the TDC (top dead center)

low octane may result in pre-ignition/pre-detonation or more commonly known as knocking/pinging, which can damage the engine.
imagine the piston is traveling up on the compression stroke, a pre detonation occurs and pushes the piston down while it's supposed to go up, imagine the stress on the con rods wink.gif

without using higher octane fuel, this can be solved by retarding the ignition timing (have the air fuel mixture detonated later), however the obvious downside is reduced power being produced.

if you can have even higher octane fuel, the opposite can be achieved, which is advancing the ignition timing, to produce more power as the air fuel mixture is ignited earlier so the compression's power stroke can begin sooner.

obviously, got a maximum limit on the advancement so you do not ignite the mixture before the piston reaches TDC tongue.gif
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post Mar 30 2016, 11:39 AM

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You all tooooo techinical lah......bila mau ride ?? bila mau twist the throttle ?

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post Mar 30 2016, 11:48 AM

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everyday i twist the throttle...
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post Mar 30 2016, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Hades76 @ Mar 30 2016, 11:39 AM)
You all tooooo techinical lah......bila mau ride ?? bila mau twist the throttle ?
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jom la saturday morning

route/destination preference?
personally ulu yam/batang kali route, destination gohtong jaya.

after that i'll be heading to seri kembangan to collect bike oils.
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post Mar 30 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 30 2016, 11:14 AM)
not really. the main criteria is engine heat/compression ratio and most important of all - ignition timing.
even carb (at least for cars, not too sure on bikes, but should be similar/same) also got distributor to adjust ignition timing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-stroke_engine

basically, ignition have to occur on the TDC (top dead center)

low octane may result in pre-ignition/pre-detonation or more commonly known as knocking/pinging, which can damage the engine.
imagine the piston is traveling up on the compression stroke, a pre detonation occurs and pushes the piston down while it's supposed to go up, imagine the stress on the con rods wink.gif

without using higher octane fuel, this can be solved by retarding the ignition timing (have the air fuel mixture detonated later), however the obvious downside is reduced power being produced.

if you can have even higher octane fuel, the opposite can be achieved, which is advancing the ignition timing, to produce more power as the air fuel mixture is ignited earlier so the compression's power stroke can begin sooner.

obviously, got a maximum limit on the advancement so you do not ignite the mixture before the piston reaches TDC tongue.gif
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damn fkin ohsem. true that. with ron95 on my rabbit, low end rpm at high gear causes some lag on the engine to move forward.

so high performance engine need to use bazzaz air fuel management la after this. the one with auto tune. easier to manage the air fuel ratio automatically live without using pre setting map.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 30 2016, 11:14 AM)
not really. the main criteria is engine heat/compression ratio and most important of all - ignition timing.
even carb (at least for cars, not too sure on bikes, but should be similar/same) also got distributor to adjust ignition timing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-stroke_engine

basically, ignition have to occur on the TDC (top dead center)

low octane may result in pre-ignition/pre-detonation or more commonly known as knocking/pinging, which can damage the engine.
imagine the piston is traveling up on the compression stroke, a pre detonation occurs and pushes the piston down while it's supposed to go up, imagine the stress on the con rods wink.gif

without using higher octane fuel, this can be solved by retarding the ignition timing (have the air fuel mixture detonated later), however the obvious downside is reduced power being produced.

if you can have even higher octane fuel, the opposite can be achieved, which is advancing the ignition timing, to produce more power as the air fuel mixture is ignited earlier so the compression's power stroke can begin sooner.

obviously, got a maximum limit on the advancement so you do not ignite the mixture before the piston reaches TDC tongue.gif
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damn fkin ohsem. true that. with ron95 on my rabbit, low end rpm at high gear causes some lag on the engine to move forward.

so high performance engine need to use bazzaz air fuel management la after this. the one with auto tune. easier to manage the air fuel ratio automatically live without using pre setting map.
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post Mar 30 2016, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Mar 28 2016, 11:05 AM)
I'm sorry but I have to say this.

THIS IS AN UNNECESSARILY RECKLESS WAY TO RIDE AN EXPENSIVE SUPERBIKE.

Frankly, it's not racun and it's nothing to be proud of.


When you upgrade from kapcai to a superbike, please leave your kapcai mentality behind. That includes running red lights, jumping road dividers, riding on the sidewalk, selit-cilok and zig-zagging in and out of traffic like a demon.

Kita yg pakai motor besar tu biarlah berhemah sikit. Kalau desperate nak celah pun, beradab la sikit. Kalai celah naik kapcai & jatuh kena himpit... poket boleh tahan lagi. Kalau jatuh kena himpit naik SBK, mulalah nak cari gaduh dgn driver kereta sbb duit gaji x cukup nak repair...

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Mar 30 2016, 12:07 PM)
When you upgrade from kapcai to a superbike, please leave your kapcai mentality behind. That includes running red lights, jumping road dividers, riding on the sidewalk, selit-cilok and zig-zagging in and out of traffic like a demon.
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well, i was/still am a car driver, and i definitely would not like to have my car scratched/damaged from a bike lane splitting.

so as the saying goes, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", so while the kapchai happily lane split even seemingly impossible tightness, even bumping into car mirrors... i just happily sit behind the car and wait for the traffic to loosen up sweat.gif
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post Mar 30 2016, 02:02 PM

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#RideLikeYouStoleIt

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 30 2016, 01:17 PM)
well, i was/still am a car driver, and i definitely would not like to have my car scratched/damaged from a bike lane splitting.

so as the saying goes, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", so while the kapchai happily lane split even seemingly impossible tightness, even bumping into car mirrors... i just happily sit behind the car and wait for the traffic to loosen up sweat.gif
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For me it's simple.... naik kapcai jatuh bersepai sbb cilok x lepas kena himpit lori, mungkin takpa sbb repair murah.

Naik SBK jatuh bersepai sbb cilok x lepas kena himpit lori, mula la nak bergolok bergadai repair motor...

Aku ingat benda tu je...



Riding a motorcycle normally has enough risks as it is. Aku jalan bila lampu hijau pun dah nyaris-nyaris kena bantai free dek lori yg tiba2 bedal lampu merah kat Sultan Ismail 2 bulan lepas. Rasanya tak payah tokok tambah dgn perangai suka cilok mcm kamikaze.
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Mar 30 2016, 02:07 PM)
Riding a motorcycle normally has enough risks as it is. Aku jalan bila lampu hijau pun dah nyaris-nyaris kena bantai free dek lori yg tiba2 bedal lampu merah kat Sultan Ismail 2 bulan lepas. Rasanya tak payah tokok tambah dgn perangai suka cilok mcm kamikaze.
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aye hear ya bro thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Mar 30 2016, 02:07 PM)
For me it's simple.... naik kapcai jatuh bersepai sbb cilok x lepas kena himpit lori, mungkin takpa sbb repair murah.

Naik SBK jatuh bersepai sbb cilok x lepas kena himpit lori, mula la nak bergolok bergadai repair motor...

Aku ingat benda tu je...
Riding a motorcycle normally has enough risks as it is. Aku jalan bila lampu hijau pun dah nyaris-nyaris kena bantai free dek lori yg tiba2 bedal lampu merah kat Sultan Ismail 2 bulan lepas. Rasanya tak payah tokok tambah dgn perangai suka cilok mcm kamikaze.
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Always ride thinking every single one of the vehicles (be it cars, vans, lorries, motorcycles, etc.) out there are coming to get you.
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Last night around 12pm dekat sentul ada rider down, not sure what happened but front end hilang. A red r25 if I'm not mistaken. But riders seems to be fine.
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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Mar 30 2016, 02:41 PM)
Always ride thinking every single one of the vehicles (be it cars, vans, lorries, motorcycles, etc.) out there are coming to get you.
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truthfully i have this sort of mentality.....


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post Mar 30 2016, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Jylova @ Mar 30 2016, 02:48 PM)
Last night around 12pm dekat sentul ada rider down, not sure what happened but front end hilang. A red r25 if I'm not mistaken. But riders seems to be fine.
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not reported in the group, probably he didn't join, or maybe not r25

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