so beginners should go for what bike? 250cc? my only experience with 2 wheel is a bicycle and short distant with suzuki v100

HP4 with all the electronics

This is subjective. If you ask me, go with a second hand 250. Later dah terrer, sell the 250 and upgrade.
If you want to get 600cc-800cc-1000cc, its okay too. Just have to know your limit. Even with a litre bike, doesn't mean you can straight do knee down like Rossi (unless you are really talented).

uh, any bike fall also, can be fatal.
kapchai can certainly hit 100kph, a crash at 100kph wont be pretty no matter how you see it.

then going on the 250, not hard to reach >150kph
crash at 150kph + any vehicle squishing you after you're on the ground, chances are you're a goner anyways. no difference on a liter bike if you ask me, maybe >300 kph crash, straight die without feel/pain, better kot.

i doubt R3 will be that cheap because non HLY official import, but if you got lobang, by all means la.
i didn't really pay much attention to R3.
it's ENTIRELY up to you. everyone got their opinions. ask most of my friends they will call me sohai because get b full and stick with 250cc. a lot of people especially richer ones straight get liter bike as first bikes also. license terus buy je no need bother jpj.

their choices, their call.
xemoboyx

i can attest to that.
even in the r25 group, those experienced riders on karak wont even bother to brake, sweeping corners at >180kph

they were pulling away or even disappearing from my vision in just a corner or 2, i look at my speedometer also 160kph already.

my experience/capability gap between them are as clear as day lol.

HP4 with all the electronics

okay, noted. will take into consideration. Just want to ask, does any bank finance used bike? if buy from personal seller, where can i get the loan done?

btw, can u buy a bike without license?
 

reason why i dun wanna a bigger bike is because im scared of falling. 300cc is like the balance between 250 and 600, not too slow, and still can catchup with a few 600 (from my youtube review opinion  )

r3 now a days go for 20-23k, ninja 300 go for about 25k ish.. seems okay. bigger bike like z800 start at 35k used. While it might seem like a bargain, i just don't wanna fall.

The throttle input is my concern, later i anyhow accidently throttle too much, rear slide out, then crash. that is my main concern, not crashing at 150kph. because crashing at that speed is like asking for it.

R1M kot? can BR1M, then can become Rossi 

Yeah that is the issue with heavier bikes. You will get used to it though. Everyone drops their bikes by accident. I remember my first time getting on a 500cc after riding a 125cc, jatuh bodoh on the first attempt to turn at slow speed 

I agree with Cyphereza on starting on a second-hand 250. Cheaper and if you drop it, less expensive and painful compared to accidentally dropping a brand new S1000RR in your parking lot.

You can also try a second-hand ER6N. 650cc bike that's popular with training schools, very easygoing and very similar in size to a Ninja 250. Way more power than a 250cc too. Quite cheap nowadays as well for secondhand pre-2012 models.

used er6n on mudah like 15k? makes buying a r25 with b full license damn stupid (yes that's what a lot of people told me )

Yup. If I topped up 4k more I could've gotten one instead of my Ninja 250r. Consoling myself with the a)cheaper insurance and roadtax b) somewhat cheaper running costs c)Ninja 250r looks smexier on most days 

Yup. If I topped up 4k more I could've gotten one instead of my Ninja 250r. Consoling myself with the a)cheaper insurance and roadtax b) somewhat cheaper running costs c)Ninja 250r looks smexier on most days 

wait... does that mean i need to sell my r25 and then top up and buy zx12r?

ok that maybe a tad crazy... maybe a zx6r?

remember to brake at the edge of the river

where can i get the best cheap suction mount for action camera? madefader 10 minutes of video lost due to fallen camera...

wafak you managed to retrieve the fallen camera?
i didn't use suction mount, but clamp mount on the side mirror lol (yay bike vibrations lel)

did not realize that the camera has fell down. luckily got stuck at under the brake reservoir. after finish playing with that s1000rr after pass the gombak toll then only realize... madefader... where can i get some good suction mount eh?

I use a tape on mount, double tape atas tank.

This is subjective. If you ask me, go with a second hand 250. Later dah terrer, sell the 250 and upgrade.
If you want to get 600cc-800cc-1000cc, its okay too. Just have to know your limit. Even with a litre bike, doesn't mean you can straight do knee down like Rossi (unless you are really talented).

That's why during the classes, they teach the theory behind the riding and how to handle the bike. that's why the cones are set up and you're thought to ride around them.

Then theory again to review the videos, and finally they remove your front brake lever.... just pure throttle control to navigate the course.