Malice Mizer can? sounds like it would be a very good guild name leh.

start from fresh

currently we dont know yet but we hope to have it on a new, i repeat, brand new oceanic PvP server which hopefully will come out when TBC is released.

actually, i have been monitoring the Official WOW forums. Alot of people, especially from the Oceanic region are complaining of the lack of Oceanic realms. There have been some response to these threads from Blizzard as well so with luck, we might be getting a new Oceanic PvP realm soon. Anyway, we are going to roll Horde on a PvP realm, Oceanic of course and also, we are all going to start fresh. Unless Blizzard does something stupid like open free transfers to this new Oceanic realm we are going to roll in, that would suck majorly. And for those who are interested, please list down your class and race. I hope not all who want to join this guild would want to roll a BE. So far, here is how it goes.

Mengdez = BE Paladin
Inoran = BE lock or priest (not confirmed)
Insyderz = UD/Be lock or paladin
Quetwei = UD Mage
there's a guy who's rolling a tauren druid but i cannot remember his name. sorry dude.

others who have signed up pls list race and class thank you.

This post has been edited by Inoran: Jan 12 2007, 01:56 PM

i've read the official forums they say they planning to come out with one lor. now the worrying thing is that, so far, nobody is rolling a warrior. how leh?

Reupdating again.

So all of us have settled on a Oceanic PvP realm Horde side. Guild name I would like to use Malice Mizer for several reasons which I will elaborate if anybody is interested later to know why I use this name. Here are the people who are interested so far.

Mengdez = BE Paladin
Inoran = BE Priest or Warlock
Insyderz = UD or BE Warlock or Paladin
Quetwei = UD Mage
Valzenhar = Tauren Druid
Nitrofang (Guild leader) = Orc Hunter or Tauren Druid
Delirium = Tauren Warrior or UD Warlock
MarXzz and friend = BE Priest and BE Mage respectively
Tropicano (if the guild thing works) = BE Paladin
Cryuste = Orc Shaman
Fields = Tauren, Orc or UD Warrior

i still vote for Malice Mizer because since most of us are going to roll BE, it defines them as full of Malice and Mizery. However, if you all don't agree with me then i guess we can rename it =(

wah female kah you? OF COURSE YOU CAN ! ZOMG !! ONE ONE 111

well, the reason why i suggested Oceanic is not so much because of latency or what not, but because most Asians are gonna roll on Oceanic servers. If we roll on a US server, chances of finding our own kind will be very slim. So that's why we should roll on a Oceanic PvP server. I say give it another 3-5 days after BC is released. What do you think dudes?

I dont want to argue and i hope you don't fight this as an argument but the part when you said it is easier to find Azn ppl in a US server because of the chances that we are the only Azn guild is quite remote. Wouldn't finding Azn people on an Oceanic realm be much better considering that nearly everybody who's gonna play there consists of Azn's and Aus/NZ people? I did read somewhere about Blizzard releasing another few more realms 2-3 days after TBC is released. Also, i don't know if everybody's gonna start immediately as soon as the game is released because of a few reasons i can think of.

1) Connection might not be back to normal as of tomorrow
2) Some of us might have had our game time expired
3) The page to upgrade your current WOW account to BC account is gonna be in a mess considering there will be millions of people browsing through that site to upgrade their accounts.
4) Influx of people in to the new servers will be massive considering most are starting a new and there would be queues involved.

2 weeks? even better. let's make it 2 weeks then based on nitrofang's suggestion. ok?

can we have more females in the guild kthx?

sorry but those dudes that pretend to be girls often don't live long. that's because i have a tendency to murder them when i find out that they're not real girls. Capish?

patience young grasshopper.

don't care if you play 1 hour a week, or even 1 week a year. as long as you're female, you're in. class and race pls ?

i agree, months of farming MC and BWL makes it boring to hell. Not to mention that these instances are boring boring boooooooooorrinngg. Oh and add Julia88 to the list of ppl interested in joining the guild.

as it is, many ppl have voted we wait another 5 more days until everybody interested in joining the guild gets their BC. So i say we wait another 5 more days to see if there is a new Oceanic PvP realm or not.

yes i do know but seriously, its no point getting all excited over starting the guild in a present realm already. This is because of several reasons.

1) Thaurissan has been around for 1-2 months, it's a transfer server so there'll be tonnes of 60's and above around.
2) Economy is going to suffer due to the abundance of 60's.
3) Since the game has just been released, imagine the lag. Even some of us who have tried it on release day have been reporting unbearable lag even in starting areas of the Draenei and BE.
4) If Thaurissan doesn't suit us at all, it's going to ruin the whole "guild" thing we have painstakingly took to set up.
5) Another 5 more days isn't gonna hurt considering we have waited for over a month from their initial release period.

Trust me, be patient for a little while more and monitor things as it is.

nitrofang sir, shall we get the guild roster up and you lay the guild's law down?

Ok, here is what i suggest if you dont mind nitrofang Sir. Firstly, in terms of the guild's laws, i recommend the following.

1) Raid times will probably start from about 9:45 PM to 12:00 AM to accomodate those that are working.
2) Instead of using DKP, we will use MP or Mamak Points.
3) These MP will be allocated as follows (tentatively)
a) Attending raid = 50 MP
b) One downed boss = 50 MP
c) Subbing another person in raid = 30 MP
d) Minimum to maximum bid for a blue item = 50 MP - 200 MP
e) Minimum to maximum bid for an epic item or purple = 100 MP to 300 MP
4) The reason why i give so high MP for the above is because, I want to abolish the stupid DKP system that the "gui-lao's" always use.
5) No guild dorama, no fights, no arguments. Be friendly to each other. If you feel you are being treated unfairly, voice out your opinion in a private whisper, not blasting that person in the face in Guild chat. If you're uncomfortable voicing out to ther person you're antoganising, voice out to nitrofang or whoever is 2nd in command.
6) If you are away for a long period of time for a good reason, then if you come back for raids, you will be welcomed back. I'm going to also attempt to abolish the stupid system made by the "gui-lao's" which makes people who don't turn up for raids after long periods of time into "non-raiders". Real life is more important thatn WOW.
7) No ninjars and loot whores please. If you do that, i suggest you go to the much bigger guilds and do so.

So if those aren't a hassle to follow, i hope they will be implemented into the guild. However, the final decision rests with Sir nitrofang here. And as for the server, i suggest waiting until next server maintenance which is next Tuesday to see if there is going to be a new Oceanic PvP realm or not. If not, then we enter Thaurissan. Why Thaurissan and not Coilfang or Auchidoun? Because should a new Oceanic PvP realm come out and be available for free transfers, we can all transfer there. Thank you, you have been a wonderful audience.