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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC

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post Aug 7 2022, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(History1999 @ Aug 7 2022, 12:36 PM)
Just wonder what actually made you keep comparing pavillion residence with the park bkt jalil? Maybe under your subconscious they are near for comparison? Logically we won't compare a far different level product right, unless they are both near and worth for comparison. If u really think the park not comparable with pavilion residence, u won't want to keep taking two of them for comparison.
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What are you even talking about??

I'm just giving you an example of what is typically construed as "luxury" when it comes to high rise living...

Pavilion Residence is always one of the project that comes to mind for most people because you know... it is literally one of the top 5 most expensive project in Malaysia PSF... I could also mention Ritz-Carlton Residence... Bayan Tree... those are all luxury projects...

You argued about "Spec" and "Design".... you do know luxury apartment uses italian marble flooring... bespoke tiles... and luxury branded fittings right??

Park 2 or Park Residence specs are by no means rumawhip or low end but it isn't luxury.... if you think laminated wood flooring... regular tiles... bravat toilet fittings... are luxury... then project like Lot 15 which uses Engineered Timber... granite tiles... TOTO toilet fittings (very high end fittings)... overall 300+ units with majority smaller units means Lot 15 is a super luxury project then??? In Lot 15 thread... I don't even see anyone.. even the owners dare claim it is a luxury project...hack... even projects like Setia Sky Seputeh where the cheapest unit starts at RM2mil... you also don't see them boasting about luxury like the pretentious owners of the park bukit jalil projects... which they often highlight that their projects are very grand... very luxury... as if someone who had never actually seen real luxury...


Again.. I am not comparing... I'm just saying what projects are deemed luxury and what is just pure owner's delusion...

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post Aug 7 2022, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(wotpian @ Aug 7 2022, 02:31 PM)
Engineered timber not many place use. TRX office tower some tenants use it for their floor. Quite nice. Alot better than laminated flooring.
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Cause Engineered Timber are much more expensive than laminated... nearly triple the price...

Basically when it comes to wood flooring the quality and cost is as follows :

Hard/Solid Wood -> Engineered Timber -> Bamboo Wood -> Parquet Wood -> Vinyl -> Laminated wood

Laminated wood flooring is basically entry level wood flooring.... which made from particleboard wood and mimics wood... basically the least amount of real wood material to disguise as wood flooring..


A lot of service apartment uses laminated wood these days... cheap and gives it the expensive feel and look but actually not expensive or luxury...
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post Aug 7 2022, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(History1999 @ Aug 7 2022, 01:21 PM)
Good one, kinda like. But I think only the tip top one in klcc is merc, many others is honda city.
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I guess you finally got what most people are trying to say...

Pavillion Residence... Ritz-Carlton... Bayan Tree etc... is like Merc

The rest like Park 2... Park Residences... are Honda City...

Honda City by no means cheap.. like Rumawhip Axia Level... or Ryan and Miho Myvi level... but it is no where near luxury either...
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post Aug 7 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(History1999 @ Aug 7 2022, 03:30 PM)
We can't say ferrarx is not luxury, rolx roycx is luxury. That is y we can't compare the park with tip top klcc condo. The park selling 1000psft no doubt being one of the highest end condo in sub KL and selangor, it is luxury. Imagine if the park build at klcc area, the selling price worth much more than 1000psft.
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The Park 2 wasn't selling at 1000psf.... when it was first launch it is only 800+ net price... if you are referring to the current property guru price then you must have very little knowledge on real estate if you think immediate VP inflated price (seller selling at SPA price or higher) is what it is worth...

If you think it is a luxury property in bukit jalil... then so be it... if it makes you happy...

All I wanted to say is... it ain't a luxury project... at best it is above average service apartment....

"Highest end" condo in sub KL and Selangor is a bold statement... like I said... Setia Sky Seputeh... which is at Seputeh not KLCC which you don't want to be compared to... starts at RM2mil cheapest unit... that is no doubt a luxury project...

And as mentioned before... if you are talking about Building Spec... Park 2 is far inferior compared to Lot 15... which is located at Subang not KLCC....

If Park 2 with such high 1k unit density + typical specs could be considered Luxury.... Lot 15 is a super luxury in whole of Selangor then...

thanks for the laugh laugh.gif laugh.gif...

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post Aug 7 2022, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(History1999 @ Aug 7 2022, 04:56 PM)
There are buyers who willing to pay the park 950k for 2 bedrooms 957sf now. I don't surprice that you do not know it as you are not from this field.

Setia sky seputeh 2M is selling for more than 2k sf, thus your statement is very mislead.

Im surprise you think lot 15 is spec is better than park 2. The park 2 design, facilities etc are much better and nicer. They are not in the same range in my eyes. That is y u need to make a visit to park 2.

Park 2 total unit is 700+ unit if not mistaken, but not 1k unit as wat u memtioned. But density is not a point to define luxury since years ago, as developer likes build more units even for luxury condo, especially for limited prime location.

Somehow I felt u were giving lots mislead info. Anyway good luck to u.
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Now you are just borderline delusional...

If you think setia sky sputeh... a project where the cheapest unit cost RM2m is not a luxury project but the park projects in bukit jalil is... then by all means continue living in your Pareidolia world...

Lot 15 is not considered luxury by any means especially comparing to true high end luxury apartments with italian marble flooring but it is definitely higher spec than Park 2 and I've already highlighted the points... not sure why you are surprise that I am saying Lot 15 spec is better... either you didn't read my post or just try to ignore everything...

Park 2 total unit is 700+... my mistake on that... I've mixed up Park residence which is the one with 1k units and Park 2 unit count... at least I am willing to admit my mistake...


You constantly deny everything and insist on your world view... then OK la.. let you win... Park 2 and Park residence is the highest spec.. most luxury project in the WORLD.... your laminated floor is actually oakwood layered with pure gold... your porcelain tiles are actually marbel made from moonstone... if you want to be pretentious about it... good for you.. at least you are happy with your purchase...


Not going to argue with you on this anymore cause you could literally just say your property is the best... better than setia sky seputeh... better than lot 15.. better than Ritz-carlton... better than the palace...

Thanks for the laugh though... park projects in bukit jalil... highest end in selangor/KL.... what a joke laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Aug 8 2022, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(hi54088 @ Aug 8 2022, 02:54 PM)
None of the condos you mentioned are luxury. Indeed, there is no luxury condo in Malaysia. If you want a luxury condo, you can only find one in Singapore:
Wallich Residence S$73.8 million
Reflections @ Keppel Bay S$68 million
Sculptura Ardmore S$60 million

BTW, you staying in which flat or apartment?
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Wallich Residence doesn't cost 73.8mil... unless you are talking about occupying half the building... unit price starts at SGD2mil...


Also.. bear in mind property price in Singapore is expensive... many in SG deem living in private condo is already luxury as majority of the working class and white collar job worker still stays at HDB..


Clearly you have no idea what luxury meant and just talking out of your arse....


If Pavilion Residence ain't luxury... you think Najib would want a unit there...

Setia Sky Seputeh is luxury because it starts at RM2mil.. pretty sure even most well to do high ranking worker at MNC can't even afford a unit and is pretty much would cost a upper middle class person their entire life + EPF savings just to get a unit... THAT is luxury... something most likely T1 of Malaysia could afford..

Any tom dick and harry could afford the park projects @ bukit jalil hence I have no idea why the owners are so uptight as if they are the only one rich enough to buy the property.... my nephew also bought a 800sqf+ unit at the park sky residence with early bird discount without even the need for 5 figure salary...


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post Aug 8 2022, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Fat3Twister @ Aug 8 2022, 03:19 PM)
Why still want to argue luxury ke tak luxury, got point meh?
Some people see Prada as luxury brand, but those who own Chanel might think Prada is just normal. And some who own none of them will say aiya, all these mana luxury, itu Hermes few hundred k satu only can be considered luxury.

Everyone also has their own definition luxury. Property agents punya measurement very senang, all also they call luxury. "Affordable luxury condo in Kepong, from 4xx,xxx" sounds familiar to you?

We often mix up luxury vs high end. Park Sky/Park 2 can be considered as highest end condo in BJ la, 1k psf now, and also SkyLuxe. But are they luxury? nimo
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Definitely in line with your view...

Like I said before... Park projects can be considered highest end in BJ or if you want luxury project in BJ....

But I think the property buyers want people to know that they are somehow very high class... best in Selangor and KL... really WTF lo



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post Aug 8 2022, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(xlss @ Aug 7 2022, 11:31 PM)
get a life dude...other ppl dont agree then so be it. why keep on impressing your own point of view upon others
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The word you are looking for is imposing not impressing..

I did not impose my point of view on others... just merely state what "I THINK" is luxury...

when people got defensive... I just elaborated my point of view... but I guess the owners surely just want to hear sweet words.... hoping that others would just be like "YEAH YOU ARE 100% RIGHT... PARK RESIDENCE BJCC is BEST IN THE WORLD"...

Sorry lo... I'm just stating facts....

If these projects are really high end and really luxury that only really wealthy people could afford like Setia Sky... Pavilion Residence... Ritz-carlton residence... then ok lo... hard to refute and their specs are indeed insanely luxurious with italian marble and top notch fittings...

But you are talking about the park projects where spec and fittings also lose out to properties like Lot 15...Atwater...OPUS KL ... where the specs are TOTO bathroom fittings... Engineered Timber... Niro Tiles... Granite flooring... while Park projects only uses middle end brand bathroom fittings... laminated wood... porcelain tiles etc...how to even compete with those actual luxury one like Setia Sky Seputeh or even new properties at Mont Kiara...


Bottomline.... not saying these projects are low end or cheap like Rumawhip.... but as mentioned many times... it ain't highest end in Selangor or KL but maybe just in BJ area...

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post Aug 8 2022, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(xlss @ Aug 8 2022, 06:34 PM)
get a life dude  wink.gif cheers
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thanks for your advice...

In return... I would advise you to get a new property if you want luxury... stop being so pathetic trying to beat a dead horse... stop living in a Pareidolia world icon_rolleyes.gif thumbsup.gif
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post Aug 9 2022, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(tongyk @ Aug 9 2022, 02:37 AM)
ALL OF YOU also REALLY funny arguing the term and definition of "luxury"

If you really wanna compare luxury properties in the world, Malaysia is in no ranking at ALL.

Even BKK properties are way more luxury than any high end properties in Msia.

And sorry to say that even DPC the best living place in KL is nowhere close to properties in BKK/SG

Price, location isn't the factor determine the term luxury guys. It's the finishing of the end product and of course material being use also part of that.

As for the PARK I would say it's good for now, investors as the valuation has achieved close to 1k psf from early launch about 650 psf?

As for Malaysia standard, it's deem good property already, alot of u i must say is feeling sour as most of u don't own a unit there, the topic is actually owners vs keyboard warriors, u dont want lose n i dont want u to step on my property.
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So much butthurt from the owner...

You do know your argument and rest of you owners argument make no sense?? You guys constantly argue that no Malaysian property is considered luxury... but insist on the park properties to be the best... constantly trying to beat the dead horse...

Also... as mentioned many times already... look back at my posts... the park projects material used are no where near luxury... can't even beat those that are slightly more expensive range like Lot 15... Opus KL... at water... let alone want to compete with properties which are truly high end with marble flooring and finishing...

Seriously... enough is enough... there is some point where many who refute tries to be moderate but the owners here are just delusional..


again... "don't own a unit" doesn't mean shit... because most didn't want to own one.... many here have already said... at the price point... it is not difficult to own one... people who could afford any property in Mont Kiara or even a RM2mil setia sky park could own 3 units of the park projects... hack... people who could own any middle upper projects like the ones that I have listed earlier could own a park project BJCC.... HOWEVER... it won't be the same the other way round cause people who could own a unit at the park project can't even smell let alone own a unit at setia sky seputeh...
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post Aug 10 2022, 01:56 AM

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THE PARK 2, BUKIT JALIL



THE ESTATE, SOUTH BANGSAR



Compare between these 2 specs.... I think it is clear night and day... even blind people also can tell which project spec is higher end...

Porcelain tiles vs Natural Stone/Granite

Laminated wood vs Engineered Timber

Roca toilet fittings vs TOTO (Roca is high end.. don't get me wrong but when it comes to toilet luxury will always be Kohler/American Standard/TOTO)

Bear in mind... The Estate is no where near setia sky seputeh... let alone ritz carlton or pavilion residences... you are literally talking about specs like Italian marble flooring etc at that point...


I think we can put this topic to rest already... if people want to argue there is no luxury apartment in Malaysia... fine... luxury is subjective and maybe you have a super high standard that only a Palace suits your need... but saying the park projects BJCC are the highest end in Selangore/KL with these kinds of spec and price???... doh.gif doh.gif At best the park 2 is middle level specs while projects like The Estate is upper middle level specs...

The park residence is a bit worse though... I've watched iHerng's video and was like WTF... no full shower fittings but instead comes with instant water heater... old school switch... flush panel door doh.gif doh.gif literally the same level as those lower middle level specs like Ryan & Miho... Panarama... Exsim's Damansara Perdana type projects...

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post Aug 10 2022, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(xlss @ Aug 10 2022, 09:10 AM)
base porsche w/out option vs. fully loaded Merc/BMW ... end of stori ... seriously get a life dudeĀ  whistling.gif
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hohoho.... such ego... BASE PORSCHE w/out option wo....

more like base Myvi.... trying hard to be a Mini Cooper with shitty body kits...


Seriously... stop pretending that an upper middle priced service apartment at best.... located at a place where people don't really consider a prime area... typical mid-end fittings given (lower end for park residence)... is something to shout about... this horse had died donkey years and you still trying to beat it...

Park residence is at best the same specs with Ryan & Miho level...

Park 2 is at best the same specs with Sunway Serene.... nowhere near the Estate level... let alone those properties at MK/Desa Park city...


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post Aug 11 2022, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(sycubezz @ Aug 11 2022, 05:48 PM)
You bought a unit at Lot 15 bro?
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Nope... cannot agree with the fact that the PSF is equal to prime area like KL Sentral or Bangsar south... and I'm not a subang person...

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