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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC

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post Oct 16 2016, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(wltw87 @ Oct 16 2016, 12:48 AM)
woah.. thats quite pricey even after rebates.
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there's a premium you have to pay for this project due to the reason I mentioned in my earlier post.
To be fair, Twin Arkz is already selling now at about sub RM 900psf (from iprop), where its location is not as ideal. Yeah they are completed and what you see is what u get, but hey secondary market also mean higher entry. Skyluxe is selling RM 750 - 800 psf. I am not saying Park 2 is cheap, but if I compare the 2 projects, I think Park 2 pricing is not over the top, considering that this is an integrated development by a branded developer.

if price is an issue, there are other projects nearby such as Havre and Earth, at a huge bargain, few hundred meters away.
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post Oct 16 2016, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 16 2016, 02:07 AM)
They are cashing in the unknown mall.

Havent investors learnt from velocity?
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I believe this mall wouldn't fare too badly looking at its location and the catchment around.
I am analyzing what option we have within say 10-15 km radius, and we have SUnway Pyramid, IOI, IOI City, Alamanda, Mines, SUmmit USJ. And looking at Pavilion, it can attract catchment from Puchong, OKR, Sg Besi, Putra/Cyber, Subang, BJ, Shah Alam. As malls are increasing, hence it is more difficult to get the catchment from other area such as KL, damansara and PJ where they have sizeable mall of their own.

it will need time to take off for sure, just like any other mall.
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post Oct 16 2016, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Lowtan @ Oct 16 2016, 07:14 AM)
there's a premium you have to pay for this project due to the reason I mentioned in my earlier post.
To be fair, Twin Arkz is already selling now at about sub RM 900psf (from iprop), where its location is not as ideal. Yeah they are completed and what you see is what u get, but hey secondary market also mean higher entry. Skyluxe is selling RM 750 - 800 psf. I am not saying Park 2 is cheap, but if I compare the 2 projects, I think Park 2 pricing is not over the top, considering that this is an integrated development by a branded developer.

if price is an issue, there are other projects nearby such as Havre and Earth, at a huge bargain, few hundred meters away.
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For havre and earth, proximity to high tension cable is a concern
For earth residence, it has a communication tower in front some more.

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post Oct 16 2016, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Lyforumer16 @ Oct 16 2016, 02:44 PM)
For havre and earth, proximity to high tension cable is a concern
For earth residence, it has a communication tower in front some more.
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in property, price is cheap or expensive for a reason.
good thing not cheap. Cheap thing no good.

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This post has been edited by Lowtan: Oct 16 2016, 04:28 PM
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post Oct 16 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(DS4 @ Oct 13 2016, 06:58 AM)
Haha....the first preview in fact in more than two weeks ago....
Never ending preview....
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preview started in august actually. how is d progress for parksky or the pavi mall?
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post Oct 16 2016, 05:47 PM

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Park2 is least or free hold ? Understand they are all commercial title.
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post Oct 16 2016, 06:40 PM

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Park 2 is freehold
Went to gallery today
And finally had time to visit skyluxe show room also
Personally, I feel skyluxe layout is much better
Damn the dual balcony unit is so nice especially those on the master bedroom
Park 2 comparatively very dull layout
Park 2 ID and layout is simpler then parksky
Same maintainece fees
Both have own advantage
Eg Park 2 have link bridge
Park 1 have larger area of facility podium

As parksky buyer I don't regret even though Park 2 looks attractive
Price 650k onward for smallest unit lowest floor
Today gallery is very crowded but can see most of the people are there makan makan free food only
Not much people do booking actually

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post Oct 16 2016, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Oct 16 2016, 06:40 PM)
Park 2 is freehold
Went to gallery today
And finally had time to visit skyluxe show room also
Personally,  I feel skyluxe layout is much better
Damn the dual balcony unit is so nice especially  those on the master bedroom
Park 2 comparatively very dull layout
Park 2 ID and layout  is simpler  then parksky
Same maintainece fees
Both have own advantage
Eg Park 2 have link bridge
      Park 1 have larger area of  facility podium
     
As parksky buyer I don't regret even though Park 2 looks attractive
Price 650k onward for smallest unit lowest floor
Today gallery is very crowded but can see most of the people are there makan makan free food only
Not much people do booking actually
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IMHO, both Park 1 n 2 have their reasons to be cheerful as a buyer. I like Park 1 vs Park 2 due to better orientation n easier to choose, as well as more facilities. Park 2 would be better only for huge units's orientation or facing n the special 9 lifts share by 10 units ( T1 ) n 8 ( T2 ). The risk is only being the record price in BJ and only 1 cp for small unit ( or anything below 1k sq ft )

Agree the layout is ntg special and dull, but for me, it's quite practical but, a lot much better than Skyluxe. If to include The Waltz, I think Waltz layout n sizes win by large margin but if really to choose, I go for Park 1 or Park 2 ( big size or uf small size, tower 2 ) while Waltz 1250 sq ft is excellent for reducing absolute price point compare to 1500 sq ft units available.

The Skyluxe, the view is all based on far view n not many units with short distance view except small units, again, directly facing Anjung Hijau. Skyluxe looks great in facade but layout was killed off by the allocation of more sq ft into balconies to save the construction costs. To sell as high end prop, every sq ft size is critical and it would be mass mistake to throw more than 15-20% of the size into balconies to make the rooms very small n fearful tat the high price thrown by a non any completed project developer was due to near Pav 2 or Recreationaal Park as selling point.

Btw, not many units of Park 2 is available, i prefer Park 2 bcz we can directly choose a unit if which level the car parks allocated. Too bad, 1500 sq ft giving 3 cps but some units, 2 of them still tandem.

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post Oct 16 2016, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(| KENZO | @ Oct 16 2016, 11:32 PM)
IMHO, both Park 1 n 2 have their reasons to be cheerful as a buyer. I like Park 1 vs Park 2 due to better orientation n easier to choose, as well as more facilities. Park 2 would be better only for huge units's orientation or facing n the special 9 lifts share by 10 units ( T1 ) n 8 ( T2 ). The risk is only being the record price in BJ and only 1 cp for small unit ( or anything below 1k sq ft )

Agree the layout is ntg special and dull, but for me, it's quite practical but, a lot much better than Skyluxe. If to include The Waltz, I think Waltz layout n sizes win by large margin but if really to choose, I go for Park 1 or Park 2 ( big size or uf small size, tower 2 ) while Waltz 1250 sq ft is excellent for reducing absolute price point compare to 1500 sq ft units available.

The Skyluxe, the view is all based on far view n not many units with short distance view except small units, again, directly facing Anjung Hijau. Skyluxe looks great in facade but layout was killed off by the allocation of more sq ft into balconies to save the construction costs. To sell as high end prop, every sq ft size is critical and it would be mass mistake to throw more than 15-20% of the size into balconies to make the rooms very small n fearful tat the high price thrown by a non any completed project developer was due to near Pav 2 or Recreationaal Park as selling point.

Btw, not many units of Park 2 is available, i prefer Park 2 bcz we can directly choose a unit if which level the car parks allocated. Too bad, 1500 sq ft giving 3 cps but some units, 2 of them still tandem.
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unit come with plain naked, ID also can change easily, cost a little. I think location and brand/name cost the most especially surrounding come with so many low cost projects. Just like projects in KLCC.
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post Oct 16 2016, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Lowtan @ Oct 16 2016, 07:14 AM)
there's a premium you have to pay for this project due to the reason I mentioned in my earlier post.
To be fair, Twin Arkz is already selling now at about sub RM 900psf (from iprop), where its location is not as ideal. Yeah they are completed and what you see is what u get, but hey secondary market also mean higher entry. Skyluxe is selling RM 750 - 800 psf. I am not saying Park 2 is cheap, but if I compare the 2 projects, I think Park 2 pricing is not over the top, considering that this is an integrated development by a branded developer.

if price is an issue, there are other projects nearby such as Havre and Earth, at a huge bargain, few hundred meters away.
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Errr twin arkz and z resi rental very very koyak also according to iprop, propwall and propertguru.. twin arkz averagely 2100 to 2300 1.2k sf 3 beds and z resi 1600 to 1900 1.4k sf 3 beds.

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post Oct 17 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(| KENZO | @ Oct 16 2016, 10:32 PM)
IMHO, both Park 1 n 2 have their reasons to be cheerful as a buyer. I like Park 1 vs Park 2 due to better orientation n easier to choose, as well as more facilities. Park 2 would be better only for huge units's orientation or facing n the special 9 lifts share by 10 units ( T1 ) n 8 ( T2 ). The risk is only being the record price in BJ and only 1 cp for small unit ( or anything below 1k sq ft )

Agree the layout is ntg special and dull, but for me, it's quite practical but, a lot much better than Skyluxe. If to include The Waltz, I think Waltz layout n sizes win by large margin but if really to choose, I go for Park 1 or Park 2 ( big size or uf small size, tower 2 ) while Waltz 1250 sq ft is excellent for reducing absolute price point compare to 1500 sq ft units available.

The Skyluxe, the view is all based on far view n not many units with short distance view except small units, again, directly facing Anjung Hijau. Skyluxe looks great in facade but layout was killed off by the allocation of more sq ft into balconies to save the construction costs. To sell as high end prop, every sq ft size is critical and it would be mass mistake to throw more than 15-20% of the size into balconies to make the rooms very small n fearful tat the high price thrown by a non any completed project developer was due to near Pav 2 or Recreationaal Park as selling point.

Btw, not many units of Park 2 is available, i prefer Park 2 bcz we can directly choose a unit if which level the car parks allocated. Too bad, 1500 sq ft giving 3 cps but some units, 2 of them still tandem.
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Yes agree with u
Parksky and park 2 layout is dull but more practical
I went to waltz too
Don't like waltz At all
If really have to choose I rather go for skyluxe then waltz
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post Oct 17 2016, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(| KENZO | @ Oct 16 2016, 10:32 PM)
IMHO, both Park 1 n 2 have their reasons to be cheerful as a buyer. I like Park 1 vs Park 2 due to better orientation n easier to choose, as well as more facilities. Park 2 would be better only for huge units's orientation or facing n the special 9 lifts share by 10 units ( T1 ) n 8 ( T2 ). The risk is only being the record price in BJ and only 1 cp for small unit ( or anything below 1k sq ft )

Agree the layout is ntg special and dull, but for me, it's quite practical but, a lot much better than Skyluxe. If to include The Waltz, I think Waltz layout n sizes win by large margin but if really to choose, I go for Park 1 or Park 2 ( big size or uf small size, tower 2 ) while Waltz 1250 sq ft is excellent for reducing absolute price point compare to 1500 sq ft units available.

The Skyluxe, the view is all based on far view n not many units with short distance view except small units, again, directly facing Anjung Hijau. Skyluxe looks great in facade but layout was killed off by the allocation of more sq ft into balconies to save the construction costs. To sell as high end prop, every sq ft size is critical and it would be mass mistake to throw more than 15-20% of the size into balconies to make the rooms very small n fearful tat the high price thrown by a non any completed project developer was due to near Pav 2 or Recreationaal Park as selling point.

Btw, not many units of Park 2 is available, i prefer Park 2 bcz we can directly choose a unit if which level the car parks allocated. Too bad, 1500 sq ft giving 3 cps but some units, 2 of them still tandem.
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To be honest, I like Park 2 (and also Park 1) in comparison to other development such as skyluxe and Waltz.
I am buying at a double premium price. Reason being is that BJC alone is already command a premium price tag compared to others development in BJ. The second premium is because I am buying at almost the last phase of the Park Series, hence one of the highest psf.

But what other development they have in BJ that has such integrated development except Paradigm?
I don't really like paradigm due as the development phase is very much depend on market sentiment, finance of the company with no clear indication of when to build what even though master plan is there. that affect short term investor and probably mid term too. BJC develop the whole almost together hence u know when itwill be completed. thereafter demand depend very much on whether all these are in placed.

also pavilion branding is definitely better than paradigm, even though both are of the same size. people says about jam in BJC. No jam mean no commercial activities. is it a good thing?

the only cons is the missing office and corporate tower in BJC, which is very important for the success of premium lifestyle residence like Park 1 and 2.
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post Oct 19 2016, 01:45 PM

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post Oct 19 2016, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Oct 16 2016, 11:23 PM)
unit come with plain naked, ID also can change easily, cost a little. I think location and brand/name cost the most especially surrounding come with so many low cost projects.  Just like projects in KLCC.
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Agreed. All are depends to the individual purposes. Whether to rent, for own stay or to flip? wahaha
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post Nov 8 2016, 09:57 AM

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visited the showhouse.
compared to skyluxe, the ID here is absolutely horrible.
chunky furnishings make the whole place looks cramped.

layout wise on paper is suppose to be better but gosh the whole unit with the furnitures and fittings is just plain wrong.

for instance, why would someone allow a shelf unit just behind the sofa thus making the living lose one foot worth of space? it's just crazy!

somehow, to me, the entire scheme is just plain wrong.

layouts wise, on paper, park 2 is suppose to be superior to skyluxe, but when a purchaser walks into the showroom, i would say skyluxe wins hands down with their clever use of space by their ID.
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post Nov 10 2016, 11:54 AM

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the park2 still available?

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where is the comparison with The Link 2?
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post Nov 10 2016, 03:31 PM

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The Park is just like Sunway v resi.
Project one road behind from development boundary can be big price dff

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