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 Hyundai Sonata 2011 - Second Hand, Aircond / Other Problems?

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andrekua2
post Oct 12 2016, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ruidon @ Mar 17 2016, 09:30 PM)
After a week + battling with the Sonata AC, here are my findings.
I changed the Compressor (recon)
Changed the Condensor (new)
Flushed the AC system
Changed the Valve

Aircond now works perfectly.. sometimes with flaws:
Reduced "coldness" when stuck in major traffic jam
Sometimes could hear either "refrigerant" or "pulley" sound when AC is on (dunno where the exact sound comes from but no leaking of refrigerant)
ONCE. the AC completely shut down and blows hot air. I shut down my car, turn it back on and the AC returns to normal (like how you boot the computer and things go back to normal)

I dont know what else to do. I am lost lol ~ Bring it to workshop to check, cant check anything coz AC is perfectly fine. Hiccups a lot. But overall, I am still loving my YF haha
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Sonata ac very weird one. Don't top up gas and think it will solve problem. It doesn't. Instead if your car ac is blowing hot air, check the ac pressure. I brought mine to top up gas and end up worse. Then he helped me release all the gases, reoil the compressor and top up gas again. That fix it. The other day my uncle sonata which never had its ac serviced also suffer this problem. Sc also released some gas as pressure too high. After released, much cooler.

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post Oct 13 2016, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 13 2016, 08:58 AM)
Aircond is most important in Malaysia for our hot weather. Korean didn't do research before giving us type of aircond? The heater is not needed, why they bother to give heater? No wonder Korean cars failed here. Local companies probably "Yes Man" failed to inform the needs of local market.

Latest news, their sales continue to drop and nobody bothers to look at Korean cars at roadshow in Midvalley. Just me & my friend sitting in 1 of the cars for more than 10 minutes while waiting for another friend to arrive. The sales people, they knew it's hopeless now.

Next year Korean car job intake, if my application rejected again, I'll come with the 3rd wave attack strategy giving free to Japanese competitors.
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Idiot comment. My sonata and rio ac working well.
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post Oct 14 2016, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 13 2016, 08:58 AM)
Aircond is most important in Malaysia for our hot weather. Korean didn't do research before giving us type of aircond? The heater is not needed, why they bother to give heater? No wonder Korean cars failed here. Local companies probably "Yes Man" failed to inform the needs of local market.

Latest news, their sales continue to drop and nobody bothers to look at Korean cars at roadshow in Midvalley. Just me & my friend sitting in 1 of the cars for more than 10 minutes while waiting for another friend to arrive. The sales people, they knew it's hopeless now.

Next year Korean car job intake, if my application rejected again, I'll come with the 3rd wave attack strategy giving free to Japanese competitors.
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Nothing to do with Korean cars in general. Perhaps this only affects the YF model.
The EF and NF model airconds are as cold as Proton's.
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post Oct 14 2016, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 14 2016, 09:20 AM)
If Working well, why Sonata YF aircond takes 10 minutes to cool down? Also, local weather so hot. why still have heater? Korean could save cost without the extra hoses for heater. That's main issue over communication between local product planning with Korean HQ.
- Bring in panoramic sunroof, now face problem when car older. Like Citra Caren with sunroof, now old already got rain water leaking.
- panoramic sunroof glass, not cheap to replace once cracked, insurance windscreen coverage premium not cheap.
- sunroof motor if spoiled, start headache from sunlight if not fully shut and cost of electrical repair. When car really old, lots of electrical wiring also worn out, will make repair more difficult.
- big rim, change tyre also expensive.

Subsequently, RV also drop badly because of costly repair news like this, buyers avoid. No wonder RV drop so fast compared to Japanese competitor.
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Yapping like no tomorrow. That's why you are being shunned. If Japanese are so good, people would keep their cars forever. Why are they selling 200-300k units a year? Those who still believe Japanese holds an advantage are idiots. Japanese are the pioneer of milo tin cars. They used to be really reliable back then but now? Ok ok... not that much different from other makes really. Not sure why you want to continue yapping. Just because the cost to service is cheaper? Koreans car are cheaper to begin with and the savings from discount plus interest rate is more than enough to service mine for the next 10 years for free.

I do use the heater from time to time. Not sure why you are complaining. Heating up the air in the cabin early in the morning made it super comfy. Useless idiot like you will find 100 reasons to fault it.
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post Oct 14 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Darren @ Oct 14 2016, 09:54 AM)
Yapping like no tomorrow. That's why you are being shunned.
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That fellor is like Sam Loo in Paul Tan website, he claims to be the ultimate market wrecker for Korean brands in Malaysia, but also claims to be the ultimate savior to them.

Since so great, then why the heck still want to reapply the position? Let them beg you and then you kesian them only go back and "save" them icon_question.gif
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post Oct 14 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ruidon @ Feb 29 2016, 08:35 AM)
Ohhhh ok ok ~~
This Kimchi car second hand year 2011 is actually quite affordable. Price around 65k +/- ~~ Price drop for second hand car is sharp haha~~

I think I will have to send the car to the workshop and ask them to do it tongue.gif haha
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Why not?
This car is good looking
Just find an alternative air compressor and modify the bracket
Use DENSO

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post Oct 14 2016, 05:00 PM

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Why Korean cars are bad? What makes it bad? How bad it is?

And why Koreans never do market research? Are they dumb?

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post Oct 14 2016, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 14 2016, 01:52 PM)
Sam Loo doesn't use facts to post, he's no strategist like few users that I have spotted here. Car companies don't hire ace strategist, they appoint only ex-sales and trust only ex-sales. But ever since raptor's gone and I gave free strategies to Japanes brands, they gotten less active since there's no need to attack a brand that is dying and cold no sales anymore.

I am applying for my dream job before I retire with vision to bring up a brand that is never possible like I did in the past directly with 1 Japanese brand model and indirectly with the strategies that I talked to raptor and gang during tea time talk that Korean companies took for free and strategies that I purposely leaked to Japanese companies. My job skill is best in automotive strategist line so why not apply when I am proven?

There's this Korean marketing head that I've been giving free info since I left Japanese brand company and in return I want a permanent job in the company. Immediately kacang lupakan kulit pretend don't know me after the few models hit success. Sure, I took back everything, told all gang members including raptor to stop whatever facts of their own car research report immediately in 2013 and now they starve with no sales, no bonus with retrenchment.

If things kept going like this, their high operating cost would be difficult for them to bear and their companies will shrink back to what it was in 2006. Distributors mostly hire ex-sales with lots of politics inside. Principal direct from Korea sent in 8-10 Korean men while few locals. The locals, they hire fresh grad or experienced staff from automotive line. Every year, these locals that failed to perform will leave and there's vacancy. I'm making them learn. I don't pity them at all. I pity my own income and future. I am doing what you're saying make them beg me next year if don't want to die here and in ASEAN.
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It says something when your advise are worth nothing to the Japanese...
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post Oct 20 2016, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 20 2016, 08:15 AM)
my strategies worths nothing because they don't intend to hire me worry that I'll seize the top throne. Kiasu politics from Kiasus working in large companies. My strategies do work and very effective in taking down Korean brands that the Japanese are happily using and claimed as their credits while I'm non-existence.

Check real history, many empires fell whenever they have kiasus running the countries and got the capable warriors and generals out. Korean car companies too facing the same thing when they have kiasus in management care more about their own positions by not letting capable strategists like me in. Now they are making huge losses, unable to put up against Japanese marketing attacks, losing all the sales and facing high daily operating costs. They can't sustain such high cost for long for having large showrooms and assembly plants while sales monthly doing far less than 100, not even 50. They can switch back to small showroom like back then but Koreans would lose face when that happens doh.gif
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Dude, i really do think the car industry is too small a stage for your huge talents.... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

You should really go into politics and be their strategist. Should really use your great strategies to bring down the current ass-ed up government and also the upside down opposition parties mega_shok.gif mega_shok.gif mega_shok.gif
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post Oct 20 2016, 11:25 AM

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Aircond no good ,don't touch

So manyyyyyyy other choices
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post May 8 2018, 09:39 AM

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how is the fuel consumption of year 2012 sonata.
and what is the major problem of the car
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post May 8 2018, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(jjpuchong @ May 8 2018, 09:39 AM)
how is the fuel consumption of year 2012 sonata.
and what is the major problem of the car
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Generally the fc heavily depends on your driving style. But its known to have higher fc than japs sedan. I have no idea on its major problems but i know people who own it. One of them is driving 2.4 sonata and very satisfied with it (bought new). The other one bought a used 2.0 and he was lucky that car was still running well (apart from a bit underpowered and quite expensive spare parts.)
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post May 9 2018, 04:51 PM

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Which is more refined for engine, car compartment, body paint, suspension, braking system, gear box?

Sonata vs camry?

140k price for both 2011 2.0 model?
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post May 9 2018, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 9 2018, 04:51 PM)
Which is more refined for engine, car compartment, body paint, suspension, braking system, gear box?

Sonata vs camry?

140k price for both 2011 2.0 model?
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Rm140k new or second hand 2011?

New is already RM 140k (or around there).
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post Aug 27 2018, 03:38 PM

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