QUOTE(bullshido @ May 4 2007, 07:15 PM)
I say it's both. If you don't know how to speak, how will attitude be important? Vice versa.English more important now?
English more important now?
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May 4 2007, 07:20 PM
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May 4 2007, 07:27 PM
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knowing the extra languages helps you when you are in foreign land, or dealing business with foreigners.
Unless one is happy with his present condition and happy being stuck where he is born, a.k.a katak bawah tempurung. Then his minimal language is enough to help him get by. |
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May 5 2007, 04:03 AM
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ May 4 2007, 08:20 PM) I would disagree with you....... I have two friends......A....... Sux in english but nice attitudes and all of our friends like him B........ band 6 for MUET but attitudes sux... and very arrogant with his english.... all his study sux except english..... he is still going no where.......... |
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May 5 2007, 04:47 AM
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ May 5 2007, 04:03 AM) I would disagree with you....... I have two friends...... Hmm.. tell me something, did u happened to have gotten abused by some english speaking ppl when u were a kid or something?A....... Sux in english but nice attitudes and all of our friends like him B........ band 6 for MUET but attitudes sux... and very arrogant with his english.... all his study sux except english..... he is still going no where.......... As for your examples: Person A: just 'cause he's likeable, does that mean he's going anywhere? Person B: linguistic skills alone is useless unless one plans for that to be their career path. Obviously pathethic examples there. Fact: attitude towards language also counts as attitude. Hence the two are very interelated indeed. Nobody is talking about being able to write something like the works of shakespear here, but being able to at least write properly is rather important indeed. Ever had to proof read a technical document written in bad english? Its not funny, I can tell you that, not because I'm fussy over the language or anything, but because the possible meanings in it r so damn blurred out that there can be the risk of a law suit should I ever approved of that document being passed over to the client. |
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May 5 2007, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ May 5 2007, 04:03 AM) I would disagree with you....... I have two friends...... u're saying either sux in english and good attitude, or sux in attitude but good in english. so why do u wanna disagree? cos we're saying both language skills and attitude are EQUALLY important, ie good in english and at the same time, displays good character and attitude.A....... Sux in english but nice attitudes and all of our friends like him B........ band 6 for MUET but attitudes sux... and very arrogant with his english.... all his study sux except english..... he is still going no where.......... |
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May 5 2007, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(fyire @ May 5 2007, 05:47 AM) Hmm.. tell me something, did u happened to have gotten abused by some english speaking ppl when u were a kid or something? ermm........ bit.... but I always look at the good side.. I take the abuse to improve myself... Now my english is abreast with them... I learn english... day and nights...As for your examples: Person A: just 'cause he's likeable, does that mean he's going anywhere? Person B: linguistic skills alone is useless unless one plans for that to be their career path. Obviously pathethic examples there. Fact: attitude towards language also counts as attitude. Hence the two are very interelated indeed. Nobody is talking about being able to write something like the works of shakespear here, but being able to at least write properly is rather important indeed. Ever had to proof read a technical document written in bad english? Its not funny, I can tell you that, not because I'm fussy over the language or anything, but because the possible meanings in it r so damn blurred out that there can be the risk of a law suit should I ever approved of that document being passed over to the client. Sorry for my generalization.... but it applied to some people.. as don`t you agree that anglo-phones are sometimes bit arrogant? I respect english... but despise who look down on non english speakers... as first language Added on May 5, 2007, 2:00 pm QUOTE(europology @ May 5 2007, 02:16 PM) its good then if you have good english and good attitude....many do not have both........ This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: May 5 2007, 02:00 PM |
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May 5 2007, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(europology @ May 5 2007, 01:16 PM) u're saying either sux in english and good attitude, or sux in attitude but good in english. so why do u wanna disagree? cos we're saying both language skills and attitude are EQUALLY important, ie good in english and at the same time, displays good character and attitude. That's what I was saying. Both are important. |
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May 5 2007, 04:49 PM
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Both matter, but without language you can't express your feelings properly, leading to a flawed personality.
This post has been edited by Soulsareworthless: May 5 2007, 04:50 PM |
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May 6 2007, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ May 5 2007, 04:03 AM) I would disagree with you....... I have two friends...... how about...having both? definitely can be achieved =)A....... Sux in english but nice attitudes and all of our friends like him B........ band 6 for MUET but attitudes sux... and very arrogant with his english.... all his study sux except english..... he is still going no where.......... |
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May 6 2007, 12:57 AM
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Arrogance leads us nowhere. Well english yeah, its important. Its the ability to talk. You must know what you are going to say in an interview rite. You cannot go for a doctor interview and say, just save lives if you are being asked. Attitude can be seen from the start, but language is more important.
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