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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.12, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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VinceCheong
post May 11 2016, 06:38 AM

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Hi guys, hope I'm in the right place since this is about FD.
I'm quite curious, after reading here and there, and also listening to stories and experiences from friends and acquaintances.

I've always thought that FD are sort of a "FIXED" thing but is it true where the rates and promotion still can change (usually rare case) due to the bank's own TnC? Like by a few decimal percentage?

And another thing I've read in probably the earlier thread, v2? V3?, where a group if you members sort of try to accumulate up to XYZ figure before approaching the bank to make an appointment to 'negotiate' a rate? What sort of rates can be negotiated or discussed? I mean like what are the odds the banks would even consider negotiating since, assuming, we only have some "loose changes" for fix deposit, like around RM100k?

At what amounts would they even consider to bump up the rates, are we talking about? 1Mil? 5Mil? 10Mil? 2.6Bil?
Let's take PBB's 1-mth period of 3.15% as a starting point.


*hyphothetically and theoretically speaking of course.*
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post May 11 2016, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 11 2016, 09:04 AM)
Fixed deposit, the interest is fixed regardless the change in OPR. The only exception is some step-up FD may change according to the OPR. So what this means is if you had a locked onto a FD say with 5% p.a interest for 5 years, regardless how the OPR change, you will be getting 5% p.a for 5 years.
4.3 to say 4.5%. Depends on how much you have and how much the bank willing to give. Some banks won't even allow the rates to be nego.

I will say rm100k not enough. Usually about RM200k can start nego. Ask bbgoat master of nego.
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Very interesting read. But by said that, what happens if the rates increased, but we're still locked on to the 5% p.a.?

Sifu bbgoat, I'd love to know more about your negotiation techniques about this. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif whistling.gif

Even I'd think 100k would barely get myself onto their radar LOL, but I'm speaking from a hypothetical standpoint anyways tongue.gif LOL What I'm interested about is how much of a spread (from the original listed rates) are banks actually willing to increase, is it a mere 0.2~0.4% or can it be as high up as 1% or even more? LOL. Short terms la, like 1-mth/3-mth breaks and compared to 1 year.
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post May 13 2016, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 12 2016, 02:51 PM)
i'm not sifu but to answer simple questions... even if for large deposit amounts, understand that bank is in the business to make money. the higher fd rate they give you, the less they make.

in many cases... 0.2% ~ 0.4% isn't that 'mere'. 1% or more is really very very high and not at all possible. and for banks to give you more interest, obviously they will want to lock your funds longer. hence, 1~3 months no bargaining power.
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If that's the case, what about if someone has 20M, walks into the bank, go directly to the branch manager, and demand to nego for 1-3m breaks? hahahah
*Legit question*... unless even 10-20m individual has no bargaining powers too sad.gif lol
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post May 14 2016, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ May 14 2016, 12:02 AM)
1 million above can nego liao based on my experience for short terms
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I've seen around 100-300k people can successfully nego, but those are mid to long terms la... But don't mind me asking what sort of additional rates one could ask/offer, given the "large" amount of deposit.

Nvm! As bbgoat mentioned, time to challenge to get some good rates at very very short term... Hahaha any luck I'll update xD

Morning people! biggrin.gif
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post May 14 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ May 14 2016, 12:20 PM)
went to hlb for 6 months .. try to nego 4.3 but declined

went to next branch nego 4.3 BM call HQ and got the approval.. so yeah.. for my case.. i guess diff branch diff policy and target to hit..

no wonder last time i saw easy approval for housing and hire purchase loan cause sometime they need to hit target

well its all about luck i could say

the reason i dont want to put BR cause i dont use to put all eggs in one basket

BR very easy to nego 100k for my case confirm can nego.. above 1 mil they will give u far better rates

some br branch 300k above usually at big city like kl penang etc..
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True true, some times not splitting to different banks at be easier to manage, plus better bargaining leverage lol... I'll try to nego for 1mth and see how lucky I get. At most a bank lwoukd just lose a client or customer hahaha.

On the side note, anyone remembers what was the old rate for PBB AT 1-mth back in 2011?
Any can anyone share a template for excel
On how the keep track of their deposits?
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post May 16 2016, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(sandkoh @ May 16 2016, 07:05 PM)
eff rate 3.95% only!
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Yeah, went over their branch and was introduce to this promotion rate.
For 100k, by the end of of 2 months, the interest accumulated is RM659.42 lol tongue.gif
Breakdown, RM295.83 and RM363.57 respectively.

On the side note, anyone knows any nice plan for 3 months FD that gives *cough* 4%+ *cough*. LOL
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post May 17 2016, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ May 16 2016, 11:39 PM)
Did u hire a security guard to escort u ard?  tongue.gif
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Honestly, you'd want the least attention. Adding security details or police detail gives you some form of security, but it also paints a huge new beacon over you, smile.gif
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post May 17 2016, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ May 17 2016, 02:01 PM)
Cash source can be from AUD or Brunei or other country there is no problem.. wont go so into details least i get warn later for supporting evading tax

money twirling gyrating here there losing track
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Tax avoidance vs Tax evasion, one is a crime, the other is an art. smile.gif
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post May 19 2016, 12:34 AM

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So, managed to 'window shop' around banks.
PBB, HLB, & CIMB.

PBB > Pending more update from the banker tomorrow.
HLB > Ok ok rates, but need CASA.
CIMB > Giving the best rates for now, but haven't seen the clauses in detailed yet.

If things go well, screw the maturity and straight move to another bank. biggrin.gif
lol.
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post May 19 2016, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(yygo @ May 19 2016, 08:57 AM)
bro, no useful info. wat rate are you nego with banks? what amt, 7 digits? laugh.gif
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Of course it's not useful cause I haven't gathered all the facts ma tongue.gif LOL

PBB >> 3.6% 1-mth \\ 4.1% 6-mth after maturity then 4.5% for the next 6-mth
HLB >> 3.55% 1-mth \\ 4.2% 3-mth, need CASA Min 200k
CIMB >> 3.8% 1-mth \\ 4.2% 3-mth

I totally ignored HLB because I don't have a good first impression lol. PBB quite a hassle to nego with them, even though it involved a HUGEsubstantial amount of fund.

But I was quite lucky CIMB offered this special rates, based on a assumption that I'm willing to park 100k for 1 or 3 months tenure.

Clearly PBB lost me after some small issues developed, lack of communications, tsk tsk tsk.
Pulled the trigger today and broke the FD from them a week before the monthly maturity and in the process of moving it to CIMB. whistling.gif

Let's see what sort of rates these banks can offer to me after 3 months.
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post May 24 2016, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ May 22 2016, 10:40 PM)
Hey guys what is the best current FD promo for now ? My previous FD fund all just matured in this month. Planning to put around 400-500k FD. Thx for the advice
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What's the tenure that you're looking for? Short term or long term?? I got 4.2 for 3-month tenure with CIMB, and at your rate you should be able to get it too. The branch I go to was at Serdang Perdana.

QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ May 23 2016, 07:04 AM)
I also need to shop around for better FD rate by end of this month.
My principal PB officer is finally inviting me for lunch to talk about wealth management now that I've informed him that I'm re channeling my FD saving from their bank
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LOOOOOOOL..."Finally invited" I like that lol, I didn't bother informing him. The fact that he does remember me or took my WhatsApp msg seriously (new number), I showed up the very next day and broke the certs and ship it to the next bank. lol.
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post May 25 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 25 2016, 04:31 PM)
is it ok to break 100k into 10 x 10k FD placements? so that if need to premature withdraw, no need lose too much?
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Yes there shouldn't be any problem theoretically. Best to check with the bank. Downside is that you have 10
Certs to sign.

QUOTE(ycs @ May 25 2016, 05:59 PM)
i don't think 100k is much nowadays, they might laugh at me instead  sweat.gif
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Hahaha why should they laugh at you? If they do, that's just being very unprofessional to new clients. That's your hard earned money, and they wouldn't know if you have 1mil lying somewhere else... smile.gif

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