i jus went to lowyat to survey bout air cooling which is the same meaning as third party processor heatsink. I can say that i was interested to get 1. Before this i did post a topic asking recommendations from sifu's here. They recommend me the thermaltake tt big typhoon. When i c it at 1 of the comp shop at low yat it was huge man. So ther rise a question in my mind. Since it is so big n a bit heavy la.When installed into casing la n ur casing is put straight will the weight of the huge heatsink wreck the motherboard ? If ur casing is place lying on sumthing or floor i tink will b ok la. But wat if i put it straight. Will it make the motherboard to bengkok n the heatsink socket on the processor can tahan o not.

hope to hear sum advice from sum sifu's here.

no lah... no problem. even silent tower also can install horizontally on a vertical casing. google around n u will see...... but vertical and horizontal installation have a difference in performance, especially those with heatpipes.

hmm so izzit better to let the motherboard to sleep or let it stand?

for me ..i think too heavy also not very good..cos the heatsink when u put the casign strainght up the weight of heatsink will try to pull down and probably will have minor gap due to the leg of heatsink not strong enuf to hold the heatsink

what the hell r u talking bout there won't be any minor gap no matter how heavy ur heatsink is
no point they create & sell it if got weight issue

hmm..

ive read some ppl who use CM hyper 6 for sometimes make thier mobo rosak

but ive used hyper6 b4..no problem for like ermm period 6 to 8 months..but using heavy heatsink not advisable to move ur rig much..who noes mebb those who hav faulty mobo using hyper6 moves their rig around much

anyway its fine using heavy heatsink..jus if u wana move ur pc extra careful..if u the one who dun move pc at all there wont be any problem

Before reply merry christmass to all of u.
like stevenlee say the gap of the processor may b not strong enuff to hold.


Jus curious to know will ther b any side effect if the heatsink is being installed n remained for a long time. Veli scare the motherboard will bengkok. i did try to hold the tt big typhoon it seems quite heavy. A guy in it hypermarket tell me tat the motherboard may go a bit bengkok cos of the weight n another guy in another shop say dpends lo but he added sum advice to me is tat better the heatsink din hit on the motherboard capasitors.

it wont bro..normally big tower heatsink comes with backplate..so the mounting its very strong to hold the sink onto the proc..there wont be gap..

b4 u decide to get certain sink hav a look ur mobo..do some measurement 1st see if it fits ur casing..some casing dun hav enuff height between ur proc are n psu..n den see if will touch anything or not like caps or northbridge cooler..

if touching caps its not good..u can bend the cap but not advisable..anyway sink design nowdays have good clearance..

jus do alot research 1st b4 u decide to get wat cooler

thanks thanks

i tink i will consider cooler master aquagate or tt wc. my tower casing cant support the length of the big typhoon. Unless i open the side panel. My own comment la. its 2 big n i m living in rented house. So sumtime my fren may come to use my com. Sure dey gona bend my case n have a look n eveli time when i go back hometown sure bring it back meaning i may move it 3 -4 times a year equals to my holiday times.

avoid those aquagate n bigwater laa..u pay so much for sucky stuff

get high end air cooling lor..scythe ninja or noctua at bulk is very very good..can beat the crap out of those entry level water cooling..if these 2 cant fit ur case get something low profile like scythe andy samurai master or TR si-128..sure no issue at all one

spend less n u get good performance

aquagate is not nice la.. for rm250 better buy nice aircooling such as infinity, or find zalman's coz zalman's not so heavy.. if too long need to open casing, make a hole that fits perfectly.. looks more like muscle car vroom vroom.. heheh


p/s: sorry for some stupid comments.. abit drunk lolz wakakak

mmm actually if it wasnt the inconvinient of moving n the weight of the heatsink awal awal i already change to air cooling. haih no money to change part anymore , so have to tink wisely b4 buying. get big wan scare the weight get the light wan scare the result is not so good. veli ma fan. My pentium d temp keep bugging me 62c when running normal window wif browsing,msn,skype on. I got c cooler master small wan.it was like a mushroom but duno whether its performance.

Thanks guys for ur ppl advice.

i c this wan in low yat.

http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=e...CX-W9U1-GP+Mars

wat u guys tink

heatsink size does not matter at all. it's the weight which is an issue.

Don't buy all those complete kit watercooling system like CM aquagate @ TT bigwater, you will regret doing that...

Trust me, there will be more & more people are going to say that is true..

If you really want to go for watercooling, fork out at least RM600 from you're pocket, then buy all those Swiftech, Asetek watercooling kit, they are the "REAL" watercooling kit...

hate my cpu temp.

i tink have to do a poll result who agree with the weight of the heatsink issue. But so far now how many of u agree that the weight of the heatsink will wreck ur mobo in short or long period of time. Any1 out ther willing to share sum opinion ? You are welcomed to do so.

May b unless after install the big tt my case have to put laying on the floor. It may reduce the chance of wrecking the mobo. So no weight force from the heatsink.

what about the gigabyte WC kit, looks good at pcfair.....

This post has been edited by deric88: Dec 24 2006, 02:27 PM

All people are welcomed to share their xperiences n idea here


We share we learn from others as wells as correct our mistakes

Sigh wat a hellmas for me got such problem.

b4 all dat..hows the cable management in ur pc?

Dude, like someone said couple of posts earlier, it won't wreck your mobo or else the maker won't be selling it right? If you put a huge and heavy hsf, bounce around carrying your rig and yes, it probably will bust your mobo.

Also depends on how you carry your case. If you have a big HSf, you have to try to hold it lying down (mobo horizontal) while moving it. Just have to handle your equipment carefullyla...

i jus mean to hear more opinion from others. For sure it will be ok if install now. For me i earn hard to get my rig. So b4 i get sumthing i research n ask more n more info sin.Hope u will understand. Jus share opinion no harm wan.

so far my icute casing is big enuff n i hides all the cable at sides. My casing side panel is oso opened.

as far as i know , some heatpipes cooler must let the pipe end face up for optimum performance .

u mean like baring the cpu den the heatsink face up so tat the heat air flow out better ?

meaning the heatpipe must facing against the gravity (facing upwards)... but this shouldn't be a problem... it has been taken care of... u can mount the heatsink anyway u want

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 24 2006, 08:36 PM

merry christmas

anymore opinion ???????

ermm

hav fans bringing in fresh air n another fan at rear to exchaust out hot air?

n wer did u check the temp? n aso do tell us ur pc spec n prefer some pic as well of ur casing

again my spec a. las time i post it here wif another title. Rili wana know ?

bro u definately DO NOT have to worry bout heavy hsf breaking ur mobo, as most hsfs nowdays are designed dat way, a little commen sence would tell u that companies would not be realeasing hsfs that break mobos, my personal opinion, best bet if u looking for a compact and real value for money is try and see if u can get the si-120/128 , or artic cooling freezer. DO NOT in any way buy a all in one wc kit, but if u must , best one imo is the aquagate mini r120 small and compact. also as somepeople have mentioned , to start a nice wc kit is 600, that is bs, (no oofence yeah) u need at least 1000 for a kit that performes well, because u can buy a kit for 600 from swiftech or dd, but will be beaten by a highend hsf that only costs 1/3 of the price, not to mention constant maintainence / checking/ cleaning for the wc parts. look at my sig and u will see a wc rig worthy of anybodys money. which can be had for little over 1200. (im not selling off by the way) .

This post has been edited by lolhalol: Dec 25 2006, 02:47 PM

what lolhalol said is correct.. dont have to worry that much about the weight unless it is 1kg above or you love to shake your casing violently 3rd party heatsink nowadays is perfectly safe to use..

for your case, i think it is better for you to go for Air Cooling. Water Cooling need regular maintainance and it is expensive. Cheap water cooling dont do much for your cpu, alot of high end air cooling can easily beat them as said by other forummer.

High End Air Cooling Brand (proven effective): Thermalright Ultra/XP Series, Scythe Infinity/Ninja, Noctua NH-U12, Tuniq120 and etc

if u worry about the height of the heat sink, go for something smaller lo. i just bought myself a Scythe Andy Samurai Master from sg.. it is 120mm in height and weight around 600g+++ about the performance, i havent test it... but should be ok lo since it is from Scythe. haha..

now everyone hav give their opinion everything to u..even recommendation

jus browse around n see wat fits ur budget

btw noctua NH-U12 at bulk by irangan is such good value..if can fit ur casing its a good buy n support support abit laa

thx for your support

been using hyper 6 which is heavy on my secondary rig since early 2005... juz remove it when u want to move ur rig to other places which is far... like upstairs or to another address to prevent accident... it wont break ur mobo... just handle with care when moving the case around...

hyper 6 isnt that big.
imagine me with the Scythe Infinity and a 38mm fan attached to it with the lousy LGA 775 mounting. ow that's a horror, but my board is still alive

Have been using Hyper 6+ (Damn huge HSF) for few months, no problem at all.
Coz all these damn HUGE HSF comes with Universal Retention Bracket(stick damn hard to ur MOBO), so wont be a problem dude.

just wonder which is the heaviest heatsink around these days...
just noticed Zalman Fatal1ty FS-C77, weighs 918g , damn so much for fully copper, onli 82g more to go 1kg

haha... i forgot which brand is that already.. but i saw a heatsink on review in MadShirmp. it is 1kg++

- double post - stupid streamyx

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 26 2006, 09:48 PM

yeah, wonder got any other heatsink that can beat it's weight... imagine ultra-120 or noctua are fully copper

haha.. if that is the case, i dont think that it can sell well. fully copper ultra or noctua going to break your mobo for sure.

thanks for the advice evelione. Appreciate it veli much. Mmm i have to measure my casing size den onli i dcide a suitable heatsink.


Walaoweh full copper oso cha did did 1kg. Den if it is intalled ur cpu will weight 3 kg lol plus all the harddisk,mobo,psu and all those parts.
Thanks

ya measure it nicely before deciding. most important is the maximum height your casing can support.

what casing u using anyway?

my wan is a mid tower casing brand is icute. Front wan got a 12cm fan. OMG today went to low yat n c heatsink. The heatsink i choose cannot fit in my mobo. The guy recommend me change case pulak.Sayang lerrr change case.

yo guys, dont run off the topic here.
cases belong in the csaing and mod section
alot of nice people can help u out there

can't fit? which heatsink u bought? TTBT? does ur case have fan on the side panel? usually it should fit any high tower heatsink if the case have 120mm rear fan

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 28 2006, 10:07 AM

go get a shorter heatsink like my andy samurai

i am using ICute casing too, it is too small for those high end heatsink.

Good recommendation.Deng have to choose a new heatsink. Zalman heatsink have nice design n look solid. Duno how bout its performance. Any idea?
Way u guys tink bout the zalman orb wan.

errr... i dont think anyone will recommend you a zalman CPU cooler here. personally i dont think zalman CPU cooler will perform as well as other brand that same price with it.

agree with irangan..furthermore....most of the reviews abt zalman hs be it cpu or vga etc mention that its noisy

im going to buy cnps 9700. is 20dB noisy? i dont think so.

noone is preventing you from buying that. we just voicing our opinion on zalman cpu cooler. no point get offensive here. if u want to buy it, pls do so and do inform us about the performance compare to those cooler from other company.

20Db noisy?

That's freaking silent liao...

But still, i don't really trust zalman cpu heatsink [except zalman GPU heatsink ]

provided its really 20db....normally what i do is add 10% for db and minus 10% for cfm....rough benchmark...anyway got no equipment to test just use ear n see rpm thru monitoring s/ware...

20dB!!! damn that is silent... i can withstand till 30-40dB cause:

1. always hear mp3 using headphone, live in my own world, even a bomb explode outside my room also cannot hear

2. when not hearing mp3, my ceiling fan is more noisier, so no point if i make a silent pc while my ceiling fan is noisy

zalman sink should be ok laa the performance..but silent is the selling point..

the 9700 wat wat edition..nickel plated one wid green led damn cun

wa 40db also can tahan.....maybe get a scythe s flex ceiling fan

still can tahan... no point making silent pc when my room isn't silent at all

guys when ui was down in sg recently i paid a visit to uglyvamps shiop....heaven for cooling fans fans... neway we were testing out a sound measuring thingi at hios place yeah...and at a very quite spot the ambient db was 70 so 20 db is very very silent.... but at home i am placing the ambient db at 30~40 db

Finally i able to reduce my pc temp. But duno is a happy or sad story. THe story begins like tis i mai say i go ask bout cpu heatsink den those ppl ask me to change casing. Den i mai get a new casing lor. Mana tau when balik rumah i discover the heatsink blok my comp capasitors. .At the same time my power logic psu hangkang . Frustated to it i straight forward go it hypermarket get a bigwater 735 wc n a cooler master 430w psu.Go home install it n the temp reduce from 61idle temp to 49-50c idle temp. But when test at lowyat the temp decrease veli fas may b is dey got air con.

But guys rili appreciate u ppl help for advice. Bravo so good we can share share xperience. But cant share share money use

U've bought those Thermaltake Bigwater watercooling systems?

Bad idea...
Why don't you listen to other people's advise?

Those bigwater watercooling kit sucks!!!
Even my XP120 can beat those bigwater in the ass hardly...

Why?
Why in the world did you buy bigwater?

yeah man... how come u buy tt wc kit... buy something like shawty..storm......

i oso regret. But that time whole bank account jus left rm 500. Like i say frustated just take the big water 735 n pay at counter. My heart wan buy heatsink de.But the heatsink not ngam mobo n the cpu hangkang make me spend about rm 400 so feel dissapointed n mind lost control. Like the god is playing wif me around. buy this not ngam den psu bakar.

bank acc left 500 should hav give me better..i choose the best heatsink for u n balance can treat me go makan

dun angry angry..happy new year must happy happy

Aiyoh, that's what people call try & error, you have to be patience, you have to try something new, if you fail on something, doesn't mean you can't trust other [which in this story i mean heatsinks... ] but, even if you want to try & error, why in the world did you go for Bigwater?

That's the most wrong way to go...

hahaha, hope u learn somethin from this always listen to other ppl & never, never go for TT Big Water

i will i will. But tat time a really no mood lo. Now still on diet oh me. Have to eat maggie to tahan for omoz 3 month. Declare bankrupt.

But happy new year lo.

hehe actually with 500 u should have gotten the gigabyte lcs....much beter...

Yes, the gigabyte LCS is a lil' better compared to that crappy TT bigwater LCS

lolhalol, wat about the new Thermaltake Waterblock?
The one that is in full copper, not the one that is used with the Bigwater LCS

This is the one: http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Liguid/...87/cl-w0087.asp

Picture:


But i'm sure that it won't work better than my Storm V2 leh...

TS, probably you can sell off your WC and buy other stuff.. else you will regret later on. sell it while it can salvage back some cash.

Curious to know.

What is gigabyte lcs ar. Can share share a

Gigabyte Liqiud Cooling System

i think they are refering to 3D Galaxy. i saw it during PC fair. looks very nice on 3D Aurora casing

i dun think that will improve ur cooling performanc emuch as it uses very small tubing...

Now, we are dicussing about watercooling...
Really out of the topic...

HCTH, you really have to close this topic now as you have already got the answer, and now, people are more to discussing something that is out of the topic...

may b we shud migrate to a new topic. . But so long we chat bout wc is good.THose ppl who view this topic earns information. Get to know bout my bad xperience n the how good is the tt bigwater n gigabyte wc.

Yes i will close ge la.

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Sarikata oleh HCTH

I don't see anyone here that supports bigwater...
It sucks too damn much...

And by the way, you didn't close the topic yet..

by the way can sum1 teach me how to close the topic ?


tq tq tq

Go to the bottom right of the topic, you can see a moderation options there, choose close this topic, and click go, then you're done

c'mon close it, close it too much unrelated discussion in here

ya bro botom of the page, moderator options.... u can close it there..