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post Apr 28 2016, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 28 2016, 10:51 AM)
But I see Table Top Racing could be fun  rclxms.gif Yesterday I was wondering if there's any kart racing game on PS4, this one seems like a kart racing with power ups......
But what the heck is tropico........ something like sim city?  sad.gif
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Haha. Idunno.. I seldom online so game with multiplayer function will not entertain my heart.

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Unless simple game such as Hustle King.

Tropico should be like sim city.. Building2 etc i guess
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post Apr 28 2016, 11:18 AM

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Might be out of topic , anyone tried with 4k TV with ultra HD got feel the input lag ? ive tried with my 23inch monitor comparison slight difference the latency especially movement will delay around 0.5 second .
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QUOTE(deyamato @ Apr 28 2016, 11:18 AM)
Might be out of topic , anyone tried with 4k TV with ultra HD got feel the input lag ? ive tried with my 23inch monitor comparison slight difference the latency especially movement will delay around 0.5 second .
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0.5 second latency?.... that's totally unplayable for any action game...... doh.gif
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post Apr 28 2016, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(deyamato @ Apr 28 2016, 11:18 AM)
Might be out of topic , anyone tried with 4k TV with ultra HD got feel the input lag ? ive tried with my 23inch monitor comparison slight difference the latency especially movement will delay around 0.5 second .
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What UHD TV are you using? Many UHD TVs has mediocre input lag results.
Monitors are generally always faster than TVs btw.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 28 2016, 12:21 PM)
What UHD TV are you using? Many UHD TVs has mediocre input lag results.
Monitors are generally always faster than TVs btw.
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Hisense 42K320UW 42" Ultra HD Smart LED , i dont have much experience to compare and my own fault dont research properly .
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QUOTE(deyamato @ Apr 28 2016, 12:24 PM)
Hisense 42K320UW 42" Ultra HD Smart LED , i dont have much experience to compare and my own fault dont research properly .
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No offence, Hisense is a very cheap brand, can't expect much from it.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 28 2016, 12:31 PM)
No offence, Hisense is a very cheap brand, can't expect much from it.
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So is not suitable for gaming then , watch show all got no problem for me so far . doh.gif

and probably need to let go for my family and get another brand soon .
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post Apr 28 2016, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(deyamato @ Apr 28 2016, 12:36 PM)
So is not suitable for gaming then , watch show all got no problem for me so far .  doh.gif

and probably need to let go for my family and get another brand soon .
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I think it would be better if you refer to discussion in following thread:
Discussion relating to gaming on a HDTV
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QUOTE(deyamato @ Apr 28 2016, 12:36 PM)
and probably need to let go for my family and get another brand soon .
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If you're going to get another new TV, my suggestion would be to get good branded Full HD TV rather than going for Ayam brand UHD/4k TV.

There's really not much reason for you to get a UHD/4k TV for the following reasons:
- at a normal TV sitting distance, you'll not notice any meaningful difference in picture sharpness for a TV around 40";
- there is no 4k gaming console, even the rumor PS4.5 won't have any real native 4k resolution for gaming;
- even your Astro HD channels is not full HD (yet they already looks very stunning on the full HD TV);
- there is little 4k blu ray movie titles out there.
- it's better to get a quality FHD TV that will last very long than an ayam brand UHD TV with questionable reliability.

I'm using a 55" full HD TV (LG brand only) and I'm more than satisfy with the resolution when sitting at the proper distance.

This post has been edited by iGamer: Apr 28 2016, 01:34 PM
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Ayam using Samsung 48" 4K TV

Using game mode, didn't noticed any input lag compared to my old plasma

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post Apr 28 2016, 01:53 PM

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I vouch for Sony and LG TV for gaming. While 4K TVs can be future proof, full HD TVs are more than enough.

And yes, don't forget to turn on game mode on TV.

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QUOTE(deyamato @ Apr 28 2016, 11:18 AM)
Might be out of topic , anyone tried with 4k TV with ultra HD got feel the input lag ? ive tried with my 23inch monitor comparison slight difference the latency especially movement will delay around 0.5 second .
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Upscaling also contribute to the delay.
If you feeding the HD contents to 4K TV, it has to be upscale to 4K in order to display.

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post Apr 28 2016, 01:56 PM

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Exactly similiar as below video

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post Apr 28 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 28 2016, 01:27 PM)
If you're going to get another new TV, my suggestion would be to get good branded Full HD TV rather than going for Ayam brand UHD/4k TV.

There's really not much reason for you to get a UHD/4k TV for the following reasons:
- at a normal TV sitting distance, you'll not notice any meaningful difference in picture sharpness for a TV around 40";
- there is no 4k gaming console, even the rumor PS4.5 won't have any real native 4k resolution for gaming;
- even your Astro HD channels is not full HD (yet they already looks very stunning on the full HD TV);
- there is little 4k blu ray movie titles out there.
- it's better to get a quality FHD TV that will last very long than an ayam brand UHD TV with questionable reliability.

I'm using a 55" full HD TV (LG brand only) and I'm more than satisfy with the resolution when sitting at the proper distance.
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- at a normal TV sitting distance, you'll not notice any meaningful difference in picture sharpness for a TV around 40";
define normal distance, optimal distance are determined the size of the screen
heck, even a 240p res movie will look good on a 60" if you're sitting 10 meters away tongue.gif

- there is no 4k gaming console, even the rumor PS4.5 won't have any real native 4k resolution for gaming;
who knows future you might get game patch for 2k/4k res?
What I predict with PS4K is all games will still support 1080p by default, but the developer can add in the option for 4K res, those who wanted 4K may download the patch separately, or the 4K texture can be stored on separate disc, all this has been done before on other console.

- even your Astro HD channels is not full HD (yet they already looks very stunning on the full HD TV);
who still watch Asstro with their so called crappy HD channels? Sorry their so called HD content still hurts my eyes. tongue.gif
Netflix is the future, full HD content upscaled on 4K TV is already very stunning, not to mentioned there are 4K contents on Netflix as well.

- there is little 4k blu ray movie titles out there.
When was the last time you have a look at Amazon's 4K bluray library?
That's the same thing ppl said when bluray first came out tongue.gif

- it's better to get a quality FHD TV that will last very long than an ayam brand UHD TV with questionable reliability.
Branded UHD TV is getting affordable now, Samsung & LG both having good quality 4K TV for very good price.
Avoid those china brand

So, go grab a 4K TV now wink.gif
own experience from a 4K TV owner wink.gif

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post Apr 28 2016, 03:32 PM

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Btw 4k res and UHD res is different, let's stop addressing UHD TVs as 4k, because they aren't actually 4k.

FHD to UHD up scaling is actually very natural because the TV is simply doing an exact 1:4 image scaling. It's a symmetrical number, so basically a FHD image will look as good as it does on a FHD TV when displayed on a UHD TV. On many higher end UHD TVs, a FHD image may look even better than on its native res.

That said, UHD TVs does need to do post processing. So input lag suffers, Samsung has done remarkably well last year and this year for their TVs to only hit 20ms~ figures. But perception of input lag is subjective to each individual, there are people who cannot stand anything more than 8ms on a 60fps game, but then there are people who can enjoy their games fine with input lag ranging at the 50ms+ range on a 30fps game.

For deyamoto's case, well.. Sorry to say that the hisense TV has a pretty poor CPU in it, the firmware instructions are pretty archaic for today's standards and clearly, they were aiming for the people who just wants to watch something without being critical. So, either live with it or sell it and get something better.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Apr 28 2016, 09:12 AM)
about ps+ games, posted earlier about ps+ games this month possibly be watch_dogs & tetris. but seems got a racing game now  thumbup.gif although it looks like a rehash of one of my favourite racing games from PS1 era... MICRO MACHINES!
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owh i tought ps4k ' neo ' just a rumors hahahaha sweat.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 28 2016, 03:32 PM)

For deyamoto's case, well.. Sorry to say that the hisense TV has a pretty poor CPU in it, the firmware instructions are pretty archaic for today's standards and clearly, they were aiming for the people who just wants to watch something without being critical. So, either live with it or sell it and get something better.
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Appreciate your advise , am getting this model anytime soon Sony
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 28 2016, 02:07 PM)
- at a normal TV sitting distance, you'll not notice any meaningful difference in picture sharpness for a TV around 40";
define normal distance, optimal distance are determined the size of the screen
heck, even a 240p res movie will look good on a 60" if you're sitting 10 meters away tongue.gif

- there is no 4k gaming console, even the rumor PS4.5 won't have any real native 4k resolution for gaming;
who knows future you might get game patch for 2k/4k res?
What I predict with PS4K is all games will still support 1080p by default, but the developer can add in the option for 4K res, those who wanted 4K may download the patch separately, or the 4K texture can be stored on separate disc, all this has been done before on other console.

- even your Astro HD channels is not full HD (yet they already looks very stunning on the full HD TV);
who still watch Asstro with their so called crappy HD channels?  Sorry their so called HD content still hurts my eyes. tongue.gif
Netflix is the future, full HD content upscaled on 4K TV is already very stunning, not to mentioned there are 4K contents on Netflix as well.

- there is little 4k blu ray movie titles out there.
When was the last time you have a look at Amazon's 4K bluray library?
That's the same thing ppl said when bluray first came out tongue.gif

- it's better to get a quality FHD TV that will last very long than an ayam brand UHD TV with questionable reliability.
Branded UHD TV is getting affordable now, Samsung & LG both having good quality 4K TV for very good price.
Avoid those china brand

So, go grab a 4K TV now wink.gif
own experience from a 4K TV owner wink.gif
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I guess I offended a 4K fanboy here and disturb his sense of superiority......
- when I mentioned normal TV sitting distance I'm referring to 7 feet plus from the sofa for a typical Msian apartment home. Not everyone is wealthy/lucky enough to have 10 meters space between TV and sitting area.
-"all this has been done before on other consoles"? Please tell me which existing consoleS let you pick 4K texture. You have your prediction on rumor PS4.5, I had mine. Unless the console maker want to sell their console with a price tag of of high end gaming rig, the current gen console won't have NATIVE 4K resolution, notice "native", not upscaled.
-I mentioned Astro not because they were the best, but because they are the most subscribed tv show provider locally, which mean most will LIKELY be using on their TV (of course that does not include you since you like to btrag about being superior). Yes some of the HD channels have a bit too much compression and a bit blurry (especially the western channel), but there are those HD channels that shows Chinese drama that absolutely look stunning with crispy picture and vibrant colors (for us commoners at least);
-No, as a commoner I don't source my blu Ray from Amazon. Yes you're more superior.... Yay!!!!!!
- the comparison made regarding the purchase of Ayam brand 4K tv with a branded FHD TV of course is based on the assumption that the price tag would be similar. It's unlikely that a Ayam brand 4K TV has a price tag anywhere near a branded 4K TV, otherwise the Ayam brand will lose its only selling point.

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 28 2016, 06:41 PM)
I guess I offended a 4K fanboy here and disturb his sense of superiority......
- when I mentioned normal TV sitting distance I'm referring to 7 feet plus from the sofa for a typical Msian apartment home. Not everyone is wealthy/lucky enough to have 10 meters space between TV and sitting area.
-"all this has been done before on other consoles"? Please tell me which existing consoleS let you pick 4K texture. You have your prediction on rumor PS4.5, I had mine. Unless the console maker want to sell their console with a price tag of of high end gaming rig, the current gen console won't have NATIVE 4K resolution, notice "native", not upscaled.
-I mentioned Astro not because they were the best, but because they are the most subscribed tv show provider locally, which mean most will LIKELY be using on their TV (of course that does not include you since you like to btrag about being superior). Yes some of the HD channels have a bit too much compression and a bit blurry (especially the western channel), but there are those HD channels that shows Chinese drama that absolutely look stunning with crispy picture and vibrant colors (for us commoners at least);
-No, as a commoner I don't source my blu Ray from Amazon. Yes you're more  superior.... Yay!!!!!!
- the comparison made regarding the purchase of Ayam brand 4K tv with a branded FHD TV of course is based on the assumption that the price tag would be similar. It's unlikely that a Ayam brand 4K TV has a price tag anywhere near a branded 4K TV, otherwise the Ayam brand will lose its only selling point.
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LOL! chill dude!

sounds like someone is butthurted and when someone claiming 4K is superior hence the users is a fanboy and "superior" doh.gif

I'm just pointing out the current facts for discussion, well... if you think those facts I stated is to reign "superiority" and you can't accept it? well, that's your problem, not mine tongue.gif

again, chill!
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here we go again... praise the games and stop fighting....

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