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post Jun 17 2016, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jeffreynsx @ Jun 17 2016, 03:41 PM)
Just now I being tailgate by FD2. Very scary wei!!!
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You can smoke him easily but kesian ur engine no chance to break in properly
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post Jun 17 2016, 05:01 PM

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U guys asked for his opinion and he gets sticks haha.
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post Jun 17 2016, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 17 2016, 05:16 PM)
perhaps a good time to start a thread in car club?
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usopkun declined. Perhaps you can create one? nod.gif
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post Jun 17 2016, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(pigin @ Jun 17 2016, 06:44 PM)
mine tomorrow 12pm. got chance me first???

but don't expect picture until 3pm.. buahahahah
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Just fyi, those who got their civic first has the honor to start an owners thread! laugh.gif
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post Jun 17 2016, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(pigin @ Jun 17 2016, 08:00 PM)
Jokes aside guys.

Wanna know something.. How to run in a turbo car?

Cuz I plan to pick it up and den go kesas 1 round to get used to the car.

Any tips on what I should avoid in order to not damage the car?
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a redline a day keeps the carbon away
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post Jun 18 2016, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jun 18 2016, 02:38 AM)
N/A cars are definitely more...predictable...let's put it this way. Reliability is a sure thing here but if there's any problem, you'll know what it is exactly without much research - parts are available everywhere. And there are a tonne of mechanics out there who knows how to fix any small problems you might have. And yes, it is DEFINITELY cheaper in the LONG run. But its just impossible to tell by how much. Not at this point. I can't even gather any indication of the amount from US websites who had been using Turbo cars for 10 years!

Honda has a thing going on for them - I still haven't watched finish the Chief Engineer's presentation yet but I have now seen their engine design. They have a small cylinder head built-in water cooled-exhaust manifold system for their turbo system. Not just bolting on the (tiny) intercooler and hope for the best. This balances out the heat issue from the turbo a bit which is a good thing for Malaysians. This powertrain is managed by Yuji Matsumochi - the same guy who did the Honda NSX and Civic Type R.

Depending on how much time you have to learn about Turbo cars - I suggest you should decide based on this. If its enough, then go ahead. If you don't have the time, always rushing around left and right...don't. These cars just have a different (not difficult) way to look after. Plus, who doesn't enjoy learning details about their new car?

Here's a video of him explaining how much work he has done to reduce Turbo heat. You'll see that the flow of air had already been cooled down (by the exhaust manifold system AND intercooler) even before it enters the engine. Fine work I must say.

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post Jun 19 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 19 2016, 08:22 AM)
Yes that was my one of my earlier comments where I said owners who think they are getting a powerful car just cuz of the word 'turbo' will be disappointed cuz the CVT gearbox actually takes a lot of the fun out of having a turbo car...soft turbo or otherwise. I still don't think it was a wise choice by Honda to pair a CVT with their turbo.
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The 8.3 sec means the car is quick. Feel wise, DSG gives you the 'rush' but end of the day jetta's 0-100 is also 8.3 sec.

Though i havent drive the civic yet, what i suspect is jetta's 0-50kph time might be marginally faster but loses to civic in 50 - 100kph time.

My dsg was fun until the juddering and guilt sets in shakehead.gif
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post Jun 19 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 19 2016, 09:12 AM)
BTW,  can anyone confirm that the overheat issue in Thailand is genuine? When I look at the pic, the car is 1.8, not turbo version
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Dont think its widespread issue. Else it's all over the internet already. president pigin mentioned his engine bay feels hot from normal driving which quite normal during break in period.

Likely in the thai isolated cases, they whack the car during the break in period.

president pigin, did SA ask u to bring the car to sc after 1000km?
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post Jun 19 2016, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(pigin @ Jun 19 2016, 10:57 AM)
sorry i do not know how to respond to multiple quotes.

just gonna answer them rite here.

for the heat:

its NOT like its overheating. just that the engine compartment feels hotter than most cars i've driven.

compared it with n/a's, a supercharged old car (dun ask me what car hehe). my in law's vw's (two of them).

and even the newer bmws with turbo..

alternation might be right. hope its a break in thing.

for the FC:

yes mine is a 1.5T.. have to clarify tho i did a couple half trottle accerelations to 130-140ish.. on all runs with eco mode off. i will "try" to drive normally and give another result..

for the service:
yes.. was told by SA to bring back at 1000km.. but found a screen on the instrument panel that says "Oil life" and it says 9900KM left.. read the manual and it says that it will calculate when u need servicing.. anyways my SA blur blur one i might post and ask on honda malaysia for assisstance on this one.

can anyone tell me how much is the first service goin to cost? website says first service is free but nothing seems to be replaced? can anyone clarify go first service for what??

for the light in compartment. i will check.
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1st service is normally to drain out engine oil which might contain metallic parts worn off from the engine. Probably they will only charge u on the new engine oil and FOC labour charge.

U mean civics bonnet is hotter than vw's twin charge?

I'm going to have dilemma since my 1st few drives will be a long drive and will hit 1000km during the journey.

Hope I can service it in other state's SC with free labour charge.
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post Jun 19 2016, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 19 2016, 11:40 AM)
Guys, we can't be discussing trivial issues like overheating by comparing the heat that is discharged by the engine compartment. That's like school boy talk. And leaving the engine compartment open to supposedly 'cool down' is just silly in my opinion and so old school. Let's be more analytical and logical in our discussions shall we?

Every car manufacturer designs their engines and the heat discharge systems differently. BMW for instance discharges the heat from their engines under the car. So if u're standing next to the engine after a long drive in a BMW u'll feel the heat at your feet more than when u open the car bonnet. That doesn't mean that BMW engines are not 'hot'. Its just the way the heat discharge system is designed.

And we're talking about an established car manufacturer here. This isn't Proton or some other rubbish manufacturer. This is Honda. The Japs are well known for their attention to detail. Their cars are not the best spec'd or best in safety compared to the Europeans but they have excelled in 1 aspect and that is QUALITY & DURABILITY.

So let's stop with this discussion about overheating just cuz we saw pics on FB about ONE case in Thailand. No car is perfect and im sure each of our cars will have issues. That's why we have the warranty for. So if an issue does happen, we'll deal with it at that point in time. No reason to be deliberating some 'potential' issue e.g overheating. Im more interested in the driving dynamics of the car, suspension, throttle response, CVT performance, problems, etc. That's what I expect from the owners who have already collected their cars.
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I see no harm in discussing engine heat, driving dynamics and so forth.

The point of this thread is to share ideas, opinions and concerns ... whether it is school boy issue or not it doesnt matter.

You can always choose to ignore the discussion instead of imposing rules of what can and cant be discussed.
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post Jun 19 2016, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 19 2016, 12:02 PM)
The engine overheating issue is not an issue. It's been discussed many times and there is no conclusion because it was a SINGLE case. So pointless asking and discussing the same thing unless and until it happens.

There are more important things to be discussed and this thread should be discussing those points. Most of the discussions here have been good but let's weed out the nonsensical ones. If its not nipped early, we risk turning this thread into some fanboy thread discussing trivial issues.

No issue so far. Some very good discussions here already. But let's just cease with the overheating issue.

Again this is my opinion / suggestion and nobody is imposing any rules. You can either choose to follow or continue your discussion on the heat. Read up & understand before passing judgement on me.
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Being the 1st owner here sharing his concern, it ain't trivia. Unless down the years some new owner bringing up the same issue which proves the be irrelevant, that u can consider it as trivial.

On the heat topic, knowing japs being japs they prioritize reliability hence the 1.5t's manifold and engine block is water cooled. Quite puzzling to hear that it's quite hot even if it's still break in period.

I've break in plenty of cars in the forms of perodua, proton, vw and so forth but none really differs that much comparing it like-to-like with a broken in engine.

Maybe pigin was having cold sweat when he touched the bonnet ...
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post Jun 20 2016, 08:46 AM

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pigin manage to find the Easter egg yet?
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post Jun 20 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 20 2016, 10:26 AM)
Where is that other guy who supposedly got his Civic already? How come no pics or any input from him?  rclxub.gif
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Probably he's trying to avoid making the new thread.

Since no one is doing, i'll try to come out with something. But u guys need to bear with me. Total noob here.
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post Jun 20 2016, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(cricketboy @ Jun 20 2016, 10:40 AM)
not me, mine still no news from SA!
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Ask if ur car is in the 1st batch. 1st batch delivery date is announced already.
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post Jun 20 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(pigin @ Jun 20 2016, 10:51 AM)
i like the RS spoiler as well.. either that one or the trunk lip spoiler.. mayb in a couple months after the parts are available in MY.

OoOo 1 more thing..

i want to remove the Vtec turbo badge... Can DIY or not one?
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The thai RS spoiler will likely void warranty since u need to do wiring for the spoiler's 3rd brake light.
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post Jun 20 2016, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalMop @ Jun 20 2016, 12:06 PM)
coz those aint turbo, cvt cant handle stress la, if so why evo 10 auto no use cvt? instead duel clutch?
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Why Lancer x using cvt and not dct?
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post Jun 20 2016, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jun 20 2016, 12:18 PM)
because it's a mass oriented sport sedan what.
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post Jun 20 2016, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 20 2016, 01:43 PM)
And then, one fellow on the opposite direction, saw this scene but forgot that there's a fuel tanker in front coming into the lane. The fellow then crash to the fuel tanker causing an immense amount of petrol/diesel to spill on the road and causing a fantastic explosion with fire spreading a wide radius, which then cause another pile up of at least 20 cars, maybe killing another 100 people on the other side of the road, closing the whole road on both direction...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

So up to owner decide lor....nak warranty or want to kill 200 people indirectly one day  whistling.gif
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post Jun 20 2016, 07:33 PM

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Poison time

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/SpoilerKing-Rear-T...n-/361544870771

If RS spoiler voids warranty due to wiring, this probably wont.

P/s: Sorry donno how to resize laugh.gif

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