Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

48 Pages « < 6 7 8 9 10 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Home Defect Rectification Checklist, After vacant posession! Update With Pics

views
     
TSaaronpang
post Feb 2 2009, 02:45 PM

Cat Exterminator
******
Senior Member
1,979 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur
QUOTE(ajie @ Jan 21 2009, 11:02 AM)
Regarding locking the front and back gate after finish the joint inspection, does it means that the developer needs to call us every time they want to fix the defects? If yes, then why bother giving them our house key while we can open the house for them everytime they call us? Mr aaronpang, any comment?
*
The passage is self explanatory.

QUOTE
BTW if your unit is a house with gates bring along a few good padlocks (2 should suffice) so you can lock the front and back gate!

Also when you submit the defect list, the developer will ask you for a set of the house keys so the contractor can enter and fix the defects. I know most folks don't like to give away house keys but you can change the locks later and install metal grilles with additional padlocks.


This post has been edited by aaronpang: Feb 2 2009, 02:46 PM
jasondotcom
post Feb 9 2009, 07:51 PM

F**K RACISM
******
Senior Member
1,630 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


i have this 3 year old new house in my hands for about more than 6 months now. defects were noted in the first day and were listed and sent to developer. rectification works have been done but its still the same. person in charge keeps buying time taking me for a ride saying we will fix it next week. and when the time comes, it will be another "next week".

pestured zillions of times and some works were done. but soon, during the rainy season, the problems came back again and again. its been like half a year gone now coming to a year. leak got worst and stained the ceiling and caused really bad fungus to form all over the walls. this problem is luckily in the first bed room. we had to hv the door closed to prevent smell entering the house.

as time goes by, we kept being taken for a ride by the person in charge. wasted sooo much of my time giving reasons away from work to attend to my problematic house only to find out that the contractor they sent, could not fix the problem in that day as promised by the person in charge. once contacted, we were told that another person will have a look at it and promised to hv it fixed "next week". and the whole farking thing goes over and over again.

today i wasted another whole day of mine going up and down to my house for nothing. and its a working day some more. i now had enough of these games and would like to write an official letter to them. so tell me what shall i do or any template that i could follow. because if nothing is REALLY FIXED ONCE AND FOR ALL, i was thinking of some higher authorities like consumers tribunal or something to make things really big this time.

no more mr. nice guy. i had enough......

guys, please help.......
ajie
post Feb 11 2009, 05:55 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
43 posts

Joined: Jan 2007


guys.. how to know whether the crack is just the wall plaster or structural?
gsrc
post Feb 19 2009, 10:39 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
396 posts

Joined: Apr 2007
From: Penang, Malaysia



Thanks for sharing the tips, very thoughtful.
ameenskywalker
post Apr 7 2009, 02:38 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
343 posts

Joined: Mar 2005
From: This means more !



I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but there is a professional property inspection services. One of these are Architech Center(http://www.architectcentre.com.my../services.html). Have anyone tried this kind of service before ?

I did called them and ask how much will cost, they said roughly 1500+5%gst for my type of house (22x75 link house, Setia Alam).
meejawa
post Apr 12 2009, 11:01 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
338 posts

Joined: Aug 2006
QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Feb 9 2009, 07:51 PM)
i have this 3 year old new house in my hands for about  more than 6 months now. defects were noted in the first day and were listed and sent to developer. rectification works have been done but its still the same. person in charge keeps buying time taking me for a ride saying we will fix it next week. and when the time comes, it will be another "next week".

pestured zillions of times and some works were done. but soon, during the rainy season, the problems came back again and again. its been like half a year gone now coming to a year. leak got worst and stained the ceiling and caused really bad fungus to form all over the walls. this problem is luckily in the first bed room. we had to hv the door closed to prevent smell entering the house.

as time goes by, we kept being taken for a ride by the person in charge. wasted sooo much of my time giving reasons away from work to attend to my problematic house only to find out that the contractor they sent, could not fix the problem in that day as promised by the person in charge. once contacted, we were told that another person will have a look at it and promised to hv it fixed "next week". and the whole farking thing goes over and over again.

today i wasted another whole day of mine going up and down to my house for nothing. and its a working day some more. i now had enough of these games and would like to write an official letter to them. so tell me what shall i do or any template that i could follow. because if nothing is REALLY FIXED ONCE AND FOR ALL, i was thinking of some higher authorities like consumers tribunal or something to make things really big this time.

no more mr. nice guy. i had enough......

guys, please help.......
*
Do 2 concurrent things. Send a complaint to the Kementerian (believe me they do read the letters), and cc the developer. Second, go to developer's office and ask to see the manager in charge. Usually the manager will assign a site-manager to manage the rectification, he's the "Dragger". Make a big fuss out of it, tell him you will give them free publicity in forums online. brows.gif

Some may drag you until the warranty period is over, then wash hand. I will personally roll up my sleeve and get even with them in these cases. When they know you're serious, they will do something. ALso, I'm sure this affects not only your unit?

I experienced this from a VERY REPUTABLE developer, but at least they acted quickly. Lessons learned.

supercop12345
post Jul 17 2009, 05:23 AM

New Member
*
Newbie
3 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
Thanks for sharing, very useful tips..
After reading your post, I realized I never check on the tiles to see if there's any hollow tiles, will do the 3rd inspection this weekend..
First round inspection, i snap photos for the developers without filling up the defects form, made mistake de...I post some here..
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image - How to fix this?
user posted image
user posted image

Second round, filled up the defects forms and send to them..

shchoy
post Jul 17 2009, 02:20 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
81 posts

Joined: Jul 2009
From: PJ


I agree that the Developer will usually take their time to complete the job.

I will usually get the contractor phone no. who's going to the job,
and then call them time-to-time to check on the progress!

user posted image
www.shchoy.com

This post has been edited by shchoy: Jul 18 2009, 03:00 PM
DE.si.MON
post Jul 25 2009, 08:24 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
771 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(aaronpang @ Nov 3 2008, 10:25 AM)
Doesn't matter if the owner collects the keys now or 2 months later once the developer issues a letter informing to take vacant possession of the property the clock starts ticking.

There is a 14 days expiry from the notice for the owner to take VP or it's automatically deemed to have taken vacant possession.
*
Hi, Just wondering if the developer has the right to issues a letter informing to take vacant possession but they actually not even complete the whole unit.

No electrical plug points, No door knob, no basin, big hole on ceiling, and no etc (free items included - aircond, kitchen cabinet, ....).

Does that mean the clock start ticking when is not even completed. Where to file complain? Legal action?
samquah
post Aug 10 2009, 09:52 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
603 posts

Joined: Aug 2005


if ceiling not painted nicely, also considered defect?
Joey Christensen
post Aug 11 2009, 01:13 PM

Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum
*******
Senior Member
3,651 posts

Joined: Jan 2009
From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting



It's referred thereafter as a poor workmanship.

Regards, Joey
TSaaronpang
post Aug 12 2009, 06:04 PM

Cat Exterminator
******
Senior Member
1,979 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur
QUOTE(DE.si.MON @ Jul 25 2009, 08:24 PM)
Hi, Just wondering if the developer has the right to issues a letter informing to take vacant possession but they actually not even complete the whole unit.

No electrical plug points, No door knob, no basin, big hole on ceiling, and no etc (free items included - aircond, kitchen cabinet, ....).

Does that mean the clock start ticking when is not even completed. Where to file complain? Legal action?
*
Usually when taking VP a rep from the developer will meet you at the house to go over the checklist of fixtures etc...

If any are missing complain on the spot and note it down as missing on the checklist.

At the same time you can also include the big holes etc... as a defect and get the developer to fix.

Free things, are those noted in your S&P?

QUOTE(samquah @ Aug 10 2009, 09:52 PM)
if ceiling not painted nicely, also considered defect?
*
Defect...? Definately yes... make them replace or repaint the ceiling board to your satisfaction...
Interrupt
post Aug 24 2009, 02:09 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
16 posts

Joined: Oct 2008


First of all, thanks to TS for useful sharing! It helps a lot, especially to me as a first time buyer.

Regarding hollow tiles, the site manager told me it is considered fine if the tile appear hollow at the corners. It's defect if any of the center part of the tile is hollow. He explained that a tile cannot be fully filled up with cement, or else it have no way for contraction when thermal changed which resulting the tiles to "explode". He says tiles should be 80% hollow. Is that true?

Any tips on how to check for uneven tiles? Uneven means a tile appear higher or lower than its neighbor. I expect 2'x2' porcelain tiles should be leveled with each another, as if I slide a 10 cents coin across the tiles, the coin will be able to cross the tiles without feeling anything in between, but they are not for my case. Sometimes I need to lift the coin when next tile is too high.

Thanks in advance for your kind sharing! smile.gif
TSaaronpang
post Aug 25 2009, 11:09 AM

Cat Exterminator
******
Senior Member
1,979 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur
QUOTE(Interrupt @ Aug 24 2009, 02:09 AM)
First of all, thanks to TS for useful sharing! It helps a lot, especially to me as a first time buyer.

Regarding hollow tiles, the site manager told me it is considered fine if the tile appear hollow at the corners. It's defect if any of the center part of the tile is hollow. He explained that a tile cannot be fully filled up with cement, or else it have no way for contraction when thermal changed which resulting the tiles to "explode". He says tiles should be 80% hollow. Is that true?

*
How does the site manager know the particular tile your complains about is properly filled? If the tile in question sounds hollow compared to the surrounding tiles chances are its defective.

Tiles maybe properly filled but can sound hollow because it's become unstuck due to dirty surface or didn't use right grouting mix.

From my experience living in previously rented house bits of floor tile snapped off near the edges because they're hollow.

Exploding tiles sweat.gif Usually occur because tiles are packed too tightly rather than too much grouting. There is a small space between tiles to accommodate expansion. If the tiles are installed too closely they don’t have space to expand and contract with temperature changes thus exploding.

The other complaint is tenting when the tiles start poping up... sweat.gif

QUOTE(Interrupt @ Aug 24 2009, 02:09 AM)
Any tips on how to check for uneven tiles? Uneven means a tile appear higher or lower than its neighbor. I expect 2'x2' porcelain tiles should be leveled with each another, as if I slide a 10 cents coin across the tiles, the coin will be able to cross the tiles without feeling anything in between, but they are not for my case. Sometimes I need to lift the coin when next tile is too high.

Thanks in advance for your kind sharing! smile.gif
*
I used a spirit level to check you can buy one for about RM15 or so..

user posted image

You can also use the spirit level to check if you have slanted walls... or crooked door frames.

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Aug 25 2009, 11:11 AM
Interrupt
post Aug 26 2009, 03:43 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
16 posts

Joined: Oct 2008


Hi aaronpang,

Thanks again for your kind explanation! rclxms.gif Below I have a few follow up questions:

QUOTE(aaronpang @ Aug 25 2009, 11:09 AM)
Tiles maybe properly filled but can sound hollow because it's become unstuck due to dirty surface or didn't use right grouting mix.
Does this sort of tiles brings any side effect besides sounding hollow?

QUOTE(aaronpang @ Aug 25 2009, 11:09 AM)
The other complaint is tenting when the tiles start poping up... sweat.gif
Sorry I don't really understand this one, would you mind to further elaborate? tongue.gif

QUOTE(aaronpang @ Aug 25 2009, 11:09 AM)
I used a spirit level to check you can buy one for about RM15 or so..

user posted image

You can also use the spirit level to check if you have slanted walls... or crooked door frames.
Thanks! Will get one of this today!

Again, thanks a lot for your time answering my questions smile.gif
TSaaronpang
post Aug 27 2009, 12:26 AM

Cat Exterminator
******
Senior Member
1,979 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur
QUOTE(Interrupt @ Aug 26 2009, 03:43 PM)
Hi aaronpang,

Thanks again for your kind explanation!  rclxms.gif Below I have a few follow up questions:
Does this sort of tiles brings any side effect besides sounding hollow?
Sorry I don't really understand this one, would you mind to further elaborate?  tongue.gif
Thanks! Will get one of this today!

Again, thanks a lot for your time answering my questions smile.gif
*
Hollow tiles could crack if they're floor tiles or fall off.

QUOTE(Interrupt @ Aug 26 2009, 03:43 PM)

Sorry I don't really understand this one, would you mind to further elaborate?  tongue.gif
*
Tenting is when tiles bulge or pop out...

user posted image
DarReNz
post Sep 18 2009, 05:37 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
7,496 posts

Joined: Feb 2007


Popping floors make condo owners hopping mad
Hazlan Zakaria
Sep 18, 09
12:33pm

For Priya Satiaceelan and Chan Kok Hong, owning their respective service apartments in Puchong's prestigious The Heron Residency was a dream come true.

But their dream turned into a nightmare when tiles literally popped out of the flooring turning the once smoothly polished surfaces into a collection of jagged cracks and uneven see-saws barely 18 months after building was completed.

Priya 28, said that she received a call from her tenants on the morning of Aug 29 telling her that the floor of her unit was "popping up like a volcano."
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

http://malaysiakini.com/news/113181

This post has been edited by DarReNz: Sep 18 2009, 05:37 PM
cybersim2
post Nov 17 2009, 11:28 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
503 posts

Joined: Aug 2006
From: CatCity


Hi ! Can I ask the developer to rectify the defect even before key handover ?
chamcham
post Nov 24 2009, 03:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
162 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
First of all, thank you for this great forum. It is very helpful to me.
Developer used to make us new home buyer suffer with all the defects and part of us the "TIDAK APA" attitude.

I'll be doing my DIY new home inspection this week. Will post as soon as I've done capturing defects. :) Though, I hope not much defects.

Thank you everyone for the great contributions.
chamcham
post Dec 4 2009, 01:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
162 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Not much defect except some major roof leaks and crack lines on certain rooms.
Very obvious hole on the cornice in bathroom. How can they missed this?? This is new house in BK.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image

48 Pages « < 6 7 8 9 10 > » Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0224sec    0.26    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 2nd December 2025 - 01:09 AM