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post Dec 13 2006, 05:44 PM

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yeah how it will casue e.s.c.? explain shawty? no even if liquid is in the socket it will not cause e.s.c. only a short sircuit if u on it....
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post Dec 13 2006, 05:47 PM

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How much As5 is selling in low yat now??
One small tube can use many times rite?
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post Dec 13 2006, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 13 2006, 05:44 PM)
yeah how it will casue e.s.c.? explain shawty?  no even if liquid is in the socket it will not cause e.s.c. only a short sircuit if u on it....
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Err...
How to explain aa...

google la, easy... laugh.gif
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post Dec 13 2006, 06:27 PM

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umm if u use the rice grain method, can use for very log time.... umm lastime i checked its out of stock, only can get at the forums. bout rm30
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post Dec 13 2006, 06:35 PM

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bro im asking how the e.s.c can form by wat u said ,,.. i know how e.s.c is formed but wat u saying aint making much sence( dun be anry ah)
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post Dec 13 2006, 09:04 PM

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how does thermalright paste that comes FOC with cooler fares between these two (as5/stg)?
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post Dec 13 2006, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 13 2006, 05:47 PM)
How much As5 is selling in low yat now??
One small tube can use many times rite?
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even a small tube can use very long ald.
Let's say u reapply a new thermal compound every 4-5 months, so u jus use 3 times each year, so a small tube should able enuff for at least 2 years la(for me tongue.gif )....

but if u use it to apply on the GC then different story la~

P/S: I still dunno how to apply AS5 on the GC, can someone teach me, izit the same like apply it on proc? icon_question.gif
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post Dec 13 2006, 10:41 PM

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Overclocker Paradise selling AS5 at RM30. i dont think there is other shop selling already in lyp.

i thought apply TIM on GPU and CPU is the same method. 1 or 2 grain of rice size of TIM then install the cooler.
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post Dec 13 2006, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Dec 12 2006, 03:33 PM)
Because minyak kapak contains methyl salicylate, which is a sort of liquid ester. Ester is from an organic acid and an alcohol. So, this makes the minyak kapak carry certain percentage of alcohol.
Not really, coz I just use one or two drops only. IIRC, Arctic Cleaner has stronger smell right?
Well, if it cleans well... I don't see any reason why it could affect the TIM performance.
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Ah So TY notworthy.gif ...maybe shud do a thermal paste cleaner review n inlcude minyak kapak biggrin.gif ...bet alot of overseas folks will be hunting for it...
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post Dec 13 2006, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 13 2006, 11:00 PM)
Ah So TY  notworthy.gif ...maybe shud do a thermal paste cleaner review n inlcude minyak kapak  biggrin.gif ...bet alot of overseas folks will be hunting for it...
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post Dec 14 2006, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 13 2006, 06:35 PM)
bro im asking how the e.s.c can form by wat u said ,,.. i know how e.s.c is formed but wat u saying aint making much sence( dun be anry ah)
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Is it because when u rub the surface of the proc with tissue...
You rub rub rub and ESC produced??? hmm.gif

Shawty, explain more, me eager to know as well...
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post Dec 14 2006, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 14 2006, 01:56 AM)
Is it because when u rub the surface of the proc with tissue...
You rub rub rub and ESC produced??? hmm.gif

Shawty, explain more, me eager to know as well...
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That's what got into my mind, and that's what stopping me from lapping the processor IHS sweat.gif

Will those rubbings cause ESC? blink.gif
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post Dec 14 2006, 01:59 AM

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do try to recall physics. rubbing a dry fibre based material on a charge carrier will charge up the electrons on it. Hence creation of ESC. Do wiki about static. That'll give you a good start
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 13 2006, 10:41 PM)
Overclocker Paradise selling AS5 at RM30. i dont think there is other shop selling already in lyp.

i thought apply TIM on GPU and CPU is the same method. 1 or 2 grain of rice size of TIM then install the cooler.
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Rice Size?

Erkk...
I've been using Arctic Seramique, and uses err, about 1 inches of rice thickness and flatten them up with an atm card, will that block the heatsink from working better? blink.gif
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The thinner the better i guess.
Too thick will not perform well.
Btw, i'm looking for the small tube one.
Can't find any around, even in bulk also they only have the big tube (12g)ones.

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post Dec 14 2006, 10:18 AM

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thanks for the heads-up

from wiki...

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The most spectacular form of ESD is the spark, which occurs when a strong electric field creates an ionized conductive channel in air. This can cause minor discomfort to people, severe damage to electronic equipment, and fires and explosions if the air contains combustible gases or particles. However, many ESD events occur without a visible or audible spark. A person carrying a relatively small electric charge may not actually feel a discharge that is still sufficient to damage sensitive electronic components (some devices may be damaged by discharges as small as 20 volts). These invisible forms of ESD can cause device outright failures, or less obvious forms of degradation that may affect the long term reliability and performance of electronic devices. The degradation in some devices may not become evident until well into the service life of some equipment.


seems like ESD is the main culprit

but not all is lost

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Prevention of ESD bases on Electrostatic Protective Area (EPA). EPA can be a small working station or a large manufacturing area. The main principle of an EPA is that: there are not highly charging materials in the vicinity of ESD sensitive electronics, all conductive materials are grounded, workers are grounded and charge build up with ESD sensitive electronics is prevented...........

In an EPA prevention bases on: using appropriate ESD safe packing material, the use of conductive tracks on cleanroom clothing worn by assembly workers, conducting wrist straps and foot-straps to prevent high voltages from accumulating on workers' bodies, anti-static mats or conductive flooring materials to conduct harmful electric charges away from the work area, and humidity control because, in humid conditions, the surface layer of moisture on many objects conducts electric charges harmlessly to earth


for me ESD would not be a problem
since my home doesnt use rug, no aircon, and cement flooring
so all ESD i obtained is discharged straight to earth

ps: and thats why i get shocked from changing cd is PS2


Edit: add some thoughts..

This post has been edited by mcchin: Dec 14 2006, 10:21 AM
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:35 PM

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ask moderno...he has...
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM

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moderno's stock reaching only on next week. his order from the supplier only will be processed on 15th december. so next week is the fastest we can get AS5 from him. of course Overclocker Paradise is always a good option if u dont mind paying premium price for it.

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 14 2006, 05:35 PM)
ask moderno...he has...
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Well, i dont think moderno have AS5 in hand...

Anyway, it really seems except AS5, there isnt any other trusted and good performance thermal paste around eh...How bout the CM Nano?
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:45 PM

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DONT buy that, that is xcrap.... the as5 is a good tim couse of many years we used it and no problem... seems llike all of brand s that have artic in their names are good...

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