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akachester
post Dec 10 2006, 07:01 PM

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I am wondering, how good is the Arctic Ceramique?Is it worth the money or maybe just go straight ahead with the AS5?And what is the use of those Arctic Cleaner?Is it really needed as in affecting the temperature in the later time or its just another type of accesories (just to clean it better)?

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post Dec 11 2006, 12:27 AM

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Go AS5 would be no wrong decision .. although Artic Ceramic perform well ...

but for ultimate thermal paste still AS5 rocks since Zalman one also fall under expectation..
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post Dec 11 2006, 01:36 PM

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@akachester
to answer ur question is really hard as it is down to user preference and usage. (this is what i think is correct) As5 is for usage of high end coolers and water blocks that u are not likely to be removing day in day out as as5 needs time to cure. so u will never get the performance of its full potential... ceramique is usually used for EXTREME cooling wher u go below the -20 degrees mark. as5 cant be used because it will freeze up and turn into a solid. as for the cleaner, i have one set, arctic clean and surface purifiers( usually u are recommended to buy both) so far i have only seen a drop of 1degrees when using these cleaners , but it up to u to whether u wan to buy it or not, but they are useful ...

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post Dec 11 2006, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 11 2006, 01:36 PM)
@akachester
to answer ur question is really hard as it is down to user preference and usage. (this is what i think is correct) As5 is for usage of high end coolers and water blocks that u are not likely to be removing day in day out as as5 needs time to cure. so u will never get the performance of its full potential... ceramique is usually used for EXTREME cooling wher u go below the -20 degrees mark. as5 cant be used because it will freeze up and turn into a solid. as for the cleaner, i have one set, arctic clean and surface purifiers( usually u are recommended to buy both) so far i have only seen a drop of 1degrees when using these cleaners , but it up to u to whether u wan to buy it or not, but they are useful ...
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what's the true or main purpose of the arctic cleaner? to clean the surface after each time u remove ur cooler, or .... unsure.gif
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post Dec 11 2006, 04:03 PM

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well theres two bottles that ..one is a tim remover, and one is a purifier, well it cleans the surface of any left over oils from ur skin or tim.
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post Dec 11 2006, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 11 2006, 03:45 PM)
what's the true or main purpose of the arctic cleaner? to clean the surface after each time u remove ur cooler, or .... unsure.gif
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you can see it this way, clean (Bottle 1 with white cap) and polish (Bottle 2 with blue cap) your cpu or gpu. remove your old TIM and polish it before applying a new layer of TIM. IIRC, it will enhance the performance of your cooler because not properly cleaned cpu or gpu (with dust or oil on it) will increase the temp.
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 11 2006, 04:03 PM)
well theres two bottles that ..one is a tim remover, and one is a purifier, well it cleans the surface of any left over oils from ur skin or tim.
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Not just oils, it'll clean all the particles that is out of you're sight, those microscopic particles will be cleaned so that you have a perfect clean surface ready for a new layer of TIM smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:34 PM

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how to remove the stock thermal paste from processor without buying articlean?
can use alchohol?

well i cleared the thermal paste using cd-spray(spray on a cotton and wipe).
then apply a think layer of thermalright paste(what ya expect, i don't earn the $$)
diffrence between stock cooler and G-Power now around 5C. Is it normal or need longer time for thermal paste to burn in or need more thermal paste?

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post Dec 11 2006, 10:36 PM

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I always just use tissue paper tongue.gif

But I might consider ArcticClean... maybe it might improve performance.. haih.. budget budget..
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:36 PM

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i think you can use those alcohol that used to clean those casstte player. just dont use your gf nail remover as it contains chemical that make it smell better. so not suitable lo.

btw, i think you should buy those artic cleaner. not that expensive (i bought for RM25) and can last you for quite sometime. Clean and Polish smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 11 2006, 01:36 PM)
@akachester
to answer ur question is really hard as it is down to user preference and usage. (this is what i think is correct) As5 is for usage of high end coolers and water blocks that u are not likely to be removing day in day out as as5 needs time to cure. so u will never get the performance of its full potential... ceramique is usually used for EXTREME cooling wher u go below the -20 degrees mark. as5 cant be used because it will freeze up and turn into a solid. as for the cleaner, i have one set, arctic clean and surface purifiers( usually u are recommended to buy both) so far i have only seen a drop of 1degrees when using these cleaners , but it up to u to whether u wan to buy it or not, but they are useful ...
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Thanks for all the info there.I myself uses the Zalman Fatal1ty FS-C77 CPU cooler and seldom take it out unless for cleaning purposes (which might be a very long time). So, maybe i will be getting the AS5 instead of the Zalman which didnt really perform what i had expected. I am starting to wonder whether that Zalman thermal paste is exactly the same as those small ones provided from purchase of their coolers..lol..

QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 11 2006, 04:43 PM)
you can see it this way, clean (Bottle 1 with white cap) and polish (Bottle 2 with blue cap) your cpu or gpu. remove your old TIM and polish it before applying a new layer of TIM. IIRC, it will enhance the performance of your cooler because not properly cleaned cpu or gpu (with dust or oil on it) will increase the temp.
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Well, will it affect the temperature by much?It doesnt really seem very expensive though.Around 20++ for both bottle.Might be getting myself one as well together with the AS5..Anyway, any rough idea when the AS6 will be available?or it might be a distant future away?
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 11 2006, 10:36 PM)
i think you can use those alcohol that used to clean those casstte player. just dont use your gf nail remover as it contains chemical that make it smell better. so not suitable lo.

btw, i think you should buy those artic cleaner. not that expensive (i bought for RM25) and can last you for quite sometime. Clean and Polish smile.gif
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Actually how does Arctic Cleaner help? I mean... when i remove by tissue, i can see its quite clean. But of course, I'm sure there are old particles in between the rough surface of the heatsink tongue.gif

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post Dec 11 2006, 10:43 PM

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i heard sum1 say can use zippo oil to clean if u wan... but instead of this method is tat any oth method to clean the thermal paste without using artic cleaner.. thank....
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:48 PM

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Cleaning alcohol does the job at < RM 2 for a nice size bottle.
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 11 2006, 10:41 PM)
Actually how does Arctic Cleaner help? I mean... when i remove by tissue, i can see its quite clean. But of course, I'm sure there are old particles in between the rough surface of the heatsink  tongue.gif
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i think you can find the answer here..

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9517886
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:52 PM

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use a 90% and above isopropyl alcohol.
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:55 PM

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the exact temp, i am not sure lo... but it is quite logical because dust and oil will trap heat this it will reduce the effectiveness of the TIM. btw it is only cost RM25 (moderno) and it can last you a lifetime if you open up your cooler that often.. hehe.. if you can spend hundred and hundred on good cooler, RM25 means nothing to you if you can lower down the temp even 1'C. hehe..
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:39 PM

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actually this question is something like whether choose branded stuff or those from china.. branded stuff is more expensive but at least it is made from establish brand and it is expected to do the job nicely without a glitch. i am not saying that those 2 ringgit alcohol wont complete the job nicely, just that if we can spend thousand something on a processor. spending another rm25 wont hurt us if it can do the job nicely and lower few 'C. especially for ppl like me. clueless about chemical stuff. before this, i always worry what if i used the wrong chemical and indirectly damage my cpu or gpu. that's why i went for arctic cleaner. hehe..
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:41 PM

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Errr can use drinking alcohol? the 40% alcohol
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:45 PM

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errr.. is that a joke? no i dont think that you can use that... btw drinking alcohol have other chemical inside making 100% not suitable for cleaning your processor.

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