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irangan
post Dec 7 2006, 11:20 PM

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according to pcmoddingcom, need to maintain 60'C for 3 days straight to fasten the process of sinking in. i dont dare to try. sakit hati....
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 6 2006, 11:31 AM)
You can choose either to use thermal paste / grease on the notebook or not by you're choice...

Normally notebook manufacturers didn't bother to put any Thermal paste / grease between the processor and the heatsink...

I've repaired so many notebooks, and open a lot of their casings [i only open the notebook casings that the warranty is over already laa laugh.gif] and none of them uses thermal paste / grease... smile.gif

Every notebooks that i've opened, i'll put some thermal paste on top of the processor die, coz this will help more in transferring the heat to the heatsink...

So my suggestion is, put a thermal paste, it's better that way... smile.gif

Ahh, another thing, if u look on the heatsink, did you find somekind of metal zink sheet?

If you do, take it out, then clean the heatsink with some alcohol, then apply the thermal paste to the processor die itself...
The themal paste will work better if you take out the metal zink sheet... wink.gif


Ohh, and by the way, you don't have to use AS5 for notebooks processor as they are cool enought to be use with those normal white thermal paste... thumbup.gif
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do that apply to normal P4 stock cooler also? i saw my heatsink with that metal zink sheet too. take it off and better performance?

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post Dec 8 2006, 03:12 PM

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SIGH.... there goes my RM32... sHawTY, where u getting the Arctic Silver 5?
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post Dec 9 2006, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 9 2006, 10:30 AM)
Well, the problem is that some experience shows that the paste generate a higher temperature than the stock paste.That doesnt seem right would it..Anyway, i think i should stay away from this paste now until someone shows some interesting figures on the paste..
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have some positve result already.. 2 days ago when i just applied the Zalman thermal paste. full load temp is around 67'C, now dropped till 64'C. but still high compare to before using Zalman thermal paste (57'C). hope that it will drop even more smile.gif


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post Dec 9 2006, 01:54 PM

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need more time to sink in??? acs5 and other good thermal paste need time to sink in and harden.
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post Dec 9 2006, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 9 2006, 04:23 PM)
Same goes to me, Lot's of people here have negative feedback about the STG-1... sweat.gif
Even prem agrees to this... doh.gif
Even if you experience some drop in temperatures, it's still higher than the temperature that you got with the stock paste...

So, what's the use of waiting man?
Just replace it with AS5 thumbup.gif
It's just like AS5, it needed some time to sink in, but, with STG-1, it's another story, which it goes higher than what stock white thermal paste do...

I'm using Arctic Ceramique for my  NB-400CU now, if someone can lend a little for me to test the STG-1 on my northbridge heatsink, so that i'll be able to know either it will perform better or it's just going for worse than what Arctic Ceramique do.. laugh.gif

***Irangan, can lend a little STG-1 for me to test on my Northbridge Chipset?
Just a little, seriously, won't dare to use it on anything else like processor or gpu, i just want to test it on my northbridge that is cooled by the PC Cooler NB-400CU, can? brows.gif
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i am looking for those 3.5g arctic silver lo.. dont know where to get sad.gif

when u need the zalman thermal paste? can borrow to u.. no pro smile.gif just sms me 012 634 2707
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post Dec 9 2006, 11:55 PM

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yeah... probably due to the propularity of its cpu and vga cooler, we put too high expectation on it. in the end, all that crashing down to earth. sad.
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post Dec 10 2006, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 10 2006, 12:06 AM)
So then, there's only one way to go, and it's Arctic Silver 5... thumbup.gif
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yeah!! getting it soon enough...
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post Dec 10 2006, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 10 2006, 01:46 AM)
where are u planning to get it? sad.gif
cause i wanna it too, mine finished already cry.gif
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Overclocker Paradise lo. they are selling expensive but at least they have stock for 3.5g not those big syringes (12g) sad.gif
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post Dec 10 2006, 08:15 AM

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RM 30 IIRC
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post Dec 10 2006, 10:01 AM

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IIRC = If I Remember Correctly

Moderno selling at RM24 ma.. so abit expensive lo
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post Dec 10 2006, 10:53 AM

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probably... but the problem lies with the effiency of the OC staff. they opened the shop late and close the shop whenever they like sad.gif

went there twice but not open with a paper said Out for Lunch. sad.gif
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post Dec 10 2006, 11:05 AM

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yes, zalman stg1 only 3.5g like arctic silver 5, just it is a bottle with brush smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2006, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 11 2006, 03:45 PM)
what's the true or main purpose of the arctic cleaner? to clean the surface after each time u remove ur cooler, or .... unsure.gif
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you can see it this way, clean (Bottle 1 with white cap) and polish (Bottle 2 with blue cap) your cpu or gpu. remove your old TIM and polish it before applying a new layer of TIM. IIRC, it will enhance the performance of your cooler because not properly cleaned cpu or gpu (with dust or oil on it) will increase the temp.
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:36 PM

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i think you can use those alcohol that used to clean those casstte player. just dont use your gf nail remover as it contains chemical that make it smell better. so not suitable lo.

btw, i think you should buy those artic cleaner. not that expensive (i bought for RM25) and can last you for quite sometime. Clean and Polish smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 11 2006, 10:41 PM)
Actually how does Arctic Cleaner help? I mean... when i remove by tissue, i can see its quite clean. But of course, I'm sure there are old particles in between the rough surface of the heatsink  tongue.gif
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i think you can find the answer here..

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9517886
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:55 PM

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the exact temp, i am not sure lo... but it is quite logical because dust and oil will trap heat this it will reduce the effectiveness of the TIM. btw it is only cost RM25 (moderno) and it can last you a lifetime if you open up your cooler that often.. hehe.. if you can spend hundred and hundred on good cooler, RM25 means nothing to you if you can lower down the temp even 1'C. hehe..
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:39 PM

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actually this question is something like whether choose branded stuff or those from china.. branded stuff is more expensive but at least it is made from establish brand and it is expected to do the job nicely without a glitch. i am not saying that those 2 ringgit alcohol wont complete the job nicely, just that if we can spend thousand something on a processor. spending another rm25 wont hurt us if it can do the job nicely and lower few 'C. especially for ppl like me. clueless about chemical stuff. before this, i always worry what if i used the wrong chemical and indirectly damage my cpu or gpu. that's why i went for arctic cleaner. hehe..
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:45 PM

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errr.. is that a joke? no i dont think that you can use that... btw drinking alcohol have other chemical inside making 100% not suitable for cleaning your processor.
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post Dec 12 2006, 08:51 AM

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thermal paste need time to sink in then only can show the true potential of it. normally take around 7 days. dont apply too much thermal paste.. a thin layer is good enough.. too much thermal paste only will increase the temp and not lower it.

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