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Thermal interface material, Discussions on thermal pad/paste/grease
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irangan
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 Dec 16 2006, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 16 2006, 12:08 PM) lol..then its going to be a hard job.Then would having TIM that is too thin will cause heat dissapation problem as well?I only knew applying TIM would need special skill as well..lol..I use to just put like one or two drop and stick the HSF right onto it...The easy/lazy way... how to determine whether it is too thin or too thick? normally i just apply TIM as thin as possible but not until can see the surface of the processor. i dont think that is called lazy/easy way. it is the recommended way by AS5 website. hehe... but i put some TIM on the processor and used my credit card to make it evenly on the processor and cotton bud to remove excess TIM on the side of the processor. |
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irangan
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Dec 17 2006, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Dec 17 2006, 01:44 AM) Yes, the "string" method applies for dual core processors such as Conroe, PressHoT, X2 and FX62. "Rice" method is for single core and exposed cores. Anyways, I still don't think getting a credit card to flat the TIM is a good idea. Why not let the heatsink flatout the TIM? used to it already... last time saw alot of guai low said need to spread the tim on the processor. the best way is used credit card to do it. |
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irangan
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Dec 17 2006, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Dec 17 2006, 11:31 AM) Yes..actually you can use the same method I described earlier with cotton soaked in solvent or brushed down with solvent, depending how messy.I'm only afraid if there's any electrolytic capacitor below the GPU chip, it there is, have to be careful not to allow solvent to drip underneath the capacitor. Nevertheless, after cleaning, leave to dry up for a while before powering it up. SMD chips are ok to be washed in solvent. Actually there IS a proper PCB cleaning solvent for this kind of job. Its VERY EXPENSIVE!, but the perfect solution in cleaning jobs. Hey guys!. Since you're all into messing your rig and DIY'ing.. its worth go practice with some old or kaput CPU and graphic card. Practice makes perfect and the stuff don't cost a lot. Sooner or later, more experts here!..good luck!  may i know what is the proper way and how to define expensive? hehe.. |
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irangan
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Dec 17 2006, 03:51 PM
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thx for the info.. learned a new thing again..
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irangan
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Dec 19 2006, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 18 2006, 09:39 PM) man the credit card way is a huge common misconcepttion.... if u use ur credit card u introduce trace amounts of imourities that will cause a decrease in performance... best if use the rice or string method as i posted earlier.... lots of guilow is refering to the days when the cores of cpu was very big... maybe the oldschool procs.... hmmm.......... i will try out the rice method next time.. |
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irangan
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Dec 19 2006, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 18 2006, 09:43 PM) just go buy the set of tim and surface purifier from artic silver..rm25 can last u a life time.....how many time do you take ur proc out to clean.. true... convinient and inexpensive way to do so. haha... 2 or 3 months once? dusty room  |
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irangan
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Dec 19 2006, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 19 2006, 04:19 PM) Will definitely try this out when i got my hands on the AS5 soon..Hopefully it will be better than my stock Zalman paste that comes with my Zalman HSF.. you can get a better result that is for sure.. since its high performance paste, STG1 also lost to AS5 |
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irangan
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Dec 19 2006, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 19 2006, 04:26 PM) lol..thats why i doubt myself in calling the STG1 the "high performance" thermal paste..Well, hopefully i can test it out when it arrives..Maybe will take sometime though.. haha.. moderno have stock for as5 already, get from him lo. |
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irangan
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Dec 19 2006, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 19 2006, 04:53 PM) I already did but too bad i cant test it on my system yet.I should only be able to do that after Xmas.I really did think of getting the STG1 myself and test it on my system as well.But considering the price tag, and comments made, it seems like a waste.The only doubt i have was would the STG1 works better with a Zalman HSF... want to buy my zalman stg1? i only used twice on my processor.. hehe.. selling cheap if u want to try it.. QUOTE(wsmin @ Dec 19 2006, 07:16 PM) as5 is available at czone as well.....suddenly lots of as5 stock appear  probably as5 just released the goods... some supplier only ship out their goods every few months This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 19 2006, 09:39 PM |
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irangan
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Dec 20 2006, 08:32 PM
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the chances of as5 winning this race is very big lolhalol, you are the 'white mouse' this time. hope your hard earned cash dont go down the drain. |
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irangan
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Dec 20 2006, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 20 2006, 08:46 PM) heeh i got an email from my Contact ( cant be revealed) that the tr tim is very very similar to as5 in technical terms althogh it is said to be different.... hjehe dun worry 35 rm , for tim is nuthin...hehe neway yeah give tr a chance lah... have some faith in tr..lol... hmmm..... sounds like very promising.. remember to post the result asap. |
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irangan
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Dec 20 2006, 09:10 PM
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liquid metal pro? from the name of it, already sounds dangerous. haha.. anyone use it before here in malaysia?
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irangan
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Dec 25 2006, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(unamed @ Dec 25 2006, 04:03 PM) But i used the Zalman thermal grease...will the artic cleaner work? I want to know where can i get isopropyl alcohol too...because it can evaporate. arctic cleaner works on all TIM. |
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irangan
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Dec 26 2006, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 26 2006, 02:23 PM) Something bad happened when i took off my northbridge cooler yesterday.The stock Zalman paste that come with my nb cooler which was only applied for maybe 1 month+ had hardened and stick to the nb.Clean it off using TIM remover.The one thing i was not sure is that is it usual for TIM to hardened so quickly (in around 1month) or the Zalman paste is really that cheapo? Rock hard? or just dried up abit? TIM dont really harden, it meant to be stay in liquid form. |
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irangan
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Dec 27 2006, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 27 2006, 04:17 PM) Its not rock hard but it cant be removed from the nb even by wiping it out.As well as the bottom of the nb cooler..Needed to use alchohol to remove it and its way hard..Not sure what happened though..luckily i bought the AS5 as a replacement... oh then it is normal.. some TIM will get harder than normal. nothing to worry about. of course it is highly recommended to use third party TIM for better result |
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irangan
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Dec 27 2006, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 27 2006, 05:39 PM) lol..Then i must be over reacting cause i just applied the TIM around 1month+ ago and i was surprise it was already that hard..lol..currently using some kind of silver TIM that my cousin got for me from Hong Kong.No brand though as my AS5 is still in KL and i am away... dont too worry... if your TIM not working as it should be, you will notice a raise in your temp. if nothing happen, dont worry too much |
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irangan
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Dec 27 2006, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 27 2006, 05:44 PM) Does every TIM need time to sinked in like the AS5 or some will straight perform when applied? nop... TIM like arctic ceramic dont need sink in. only high end stuff like arctic silver 5 or zalman stg1 need :0 |
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irangan
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Jan 4 2007, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 3 2007, 09:26 PM) wait.correct me if im wrong but i thought using AS5 for gpu core isint recommended?cuz the core doesnt have an IHS and AS5 is like metallic and may short circuit the whole card if the as5 touches other than the core?  you are correct in some sense BUT if you applies the as5 carefully, your card will be fine. remember to use the a drop of grain method when applying the as5. |
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irangan
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Jan 8 2007, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 8 2007, 09:12 PM) articlean expensive lah..rm25 compared to the swan alcohol rm3  btw the alcohol wont short circuit the board rite if it touches the pcb? that's the main part im afraid off though it wont short circuit your board but it will do a minor damage if you leave it too long. try not to spill alcohol on your comp. |
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irangan
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Jan 9 2007, 11:33 PM
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Arctic Silver 5 With its unique high-density filling of micronized silver and enhanced thermally conductive ceramic particles
RM25.00 thermal paste will fill those micro gap at your base of heatsink easily and of course it transfer much better
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