QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jun 8 2021, 10:48 AM)
I wasn't into china but it was a reply to ChAOoz concerning china's standpoint.btw, Serbadk made all time low record.
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Jun 8 2021, 10:56 AM
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Jun 8 2021, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jun 8 2021, 11:20 AM) Thats the point. The price is up due partly to china action and also due to logistics prices. i guess you have seen the financial data, but may i know what gave you the idea of the above?Both of the key factors are not due to the company itself. Hence the price does not have durability, or some call it durable advantage. Once external factor dissipate what is preventing one from bag holdings an uncompetitive and unprofitable company ? |
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Jun 8 2021, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jun 8 2021, 12:45 PM) You look at any Malaysia Steel mill post beijing olympic and you will know. They have problem sustaining their profitability and the company experience wild swings in profit and it's uncompetitive overall in the global market. i was asking about the company's financials.Lucky our local government imposed anti-dumping measures. But if i see any industry have tongkat, like Proton, Silterra etc. I know they are not competitive already without needing to deep dive into it. |
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jun 8 2021, 01:42 PM) Look at 2020 Annual Report, under Balance Sheet: Retained earnings/(Accumulated losses) and also FY2020 Net (loss) / profit attributable to equity holder. okthat is a relevant valid point. But how do u know when it's a bust cycle?You will know why steel is boom and bust and why MELEWAR is not competitive enough. Never ever buy them during a Boom cycle. If you need to buy them, perhaps a position should already be established during the bust cycle. Catching it at bust cycle is a riskier game, u might get stuck for years long before the cycle turns, from downtrend to uptrend easily half a year time to turn. So since now that we see global inflation and china is going to push steel price further, just ride the trend, unless u want to wait for next few years to enter. I don't know how to catch it at bust, like serbadk how do u catch it at bust? Melewar's valuation is technically a steal. This post has been edited by lowya: Jun 8 2021, 01:58 PM |
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Jun 8 2021, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jun 8 2021, 01:49 PM) Hi Guys, you did not say what you like to use to compare them.beginner investor here. Would like to know where I can check the respective industry which stocks are involved in? eg tech, oil n gas, banking finance, gloves, etc? Like a summary or list we can refer to? |
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Jun 8 2021, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 8 2021, 02:41 PM) operation wise seems like serba is doing quite well. But are they going to do the cooking to burn their future? they have good future, holding 2 major onshore maintenance contracts with petronas and maybe alot more with smaller contracts here and there. this definitely will fuk up their reputation. did u check serbadk's net debt?some of the KPMG findings are very mundane, like the one about the letter send to home instead of office |
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QUOTE(Aparaa @ Jun 11 2021, 08:59 AM) New stock to play in bursa coming soon. how do u play with it? can teach? sorry i forgot my childhood memory.OM Holdings Berhad https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3165699 https://www2.asx.com.au/markets/company/omh |
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just curious, anyone holding melewar here?
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Jun 14 2021, 11:01 AM
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Guys, Supermx worth your time, take a look.
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Jun 15 2021, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(coldbasecamp @ Jun 16 2021, 11:56 PM) was planning to enter Melewar, saw your post I just noticed uncle KYY have published an article to push the share price if u know how to evaluate stocks, your decision would not be clouded by others, whatever other people do (or didn't do) should not be a part of your decision making process.bola kecut. generally I won't touch any stocks that recommended by uncle. This post has been edited by lowya: Jun 17 2021, 07:54 AM |
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QUOTE(coldbasecamp @ Jun 17 2021, 08:24 AM) yah indeed, if one is confident with its fundamental and prospect, it shouldn't be an issue. as shown in the example, i go in before he came up with his own conclusion, if according to your bad experience bias decision making, i would have became wrong because he end up buying it too?just that I had bad experience where stock that I was aiming was "pushed" by uncle and when uncle left, the market sentiment screwed up for that stock. |
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QUOTE(coldbasecamp @ Jun 17 2021, 09:36 AM) then congrats, his "effect" has been in favour for you. as i said, his effect or not does not make any difference at all in terms of favor or not, doesn't change the fundamental of the company at all unless the price has moved drastically, in that example there is still ample headroom, the post was just pointing out the coincidence of the timing.well, some of the stocks I "coincidentally" also looking, but uncle posted before I bought and some of the stocks I hold before his article (and I believe its intrinsic value), dropped tremendously after up for 1 or 2 days. |
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