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Cubalagi
post Jan 27 2020, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Jan 27 2020, 09:14 AM)
for those without dividend, for example an ETF that doesn't distribute dividend, if I sell it to take some profit and buy it again, doesn't it look silly?
but if I don't sell, then it takes a dip and stuck there for years, then how?  hmm.gif

for dividend stocks, it's no problem. For growth stocks, how do we handle this?
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For dividends stocks, once it go ex, the prices will drop. So in effect you are also selling out/take profit. Only in this case, you are forced to, not by choice. U can then use the dividends to spend, or invest in another stock with better risk/reward or reinvest in that stock again.

For pure capital gains, now you have a choice. Here, you are not forced to take profit. You sell it because you need the money or you see other better opportunities in terms of risk/reward.

For etf, say it has performed well but you are starting to get a bit nervous but at same time you are FOMO. You can first stop adding more money into it, and leave it be n monitor. If you are DCA type, then that already reduce ur risks.

If you get more nervous, then you can take some money off the table. You don't have to sell it all or even most.just a small %, as long as the transaction cost makes sense. Fund investors call this"rebalancing". You can put the proceeds into another stock or etf.

In my case, I have price target. Hit target then it will be on watch list to sell, but I wont sell yet until it reach some sort of resistance. I will then sell some, most or all depending on the outlook as I see it.


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post Jan 28 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Jan 27 2020, 11:48 PM)
as always. Thanks for sharing your thought!

I sell to lock in profit.  brows.gif
but if you sell when it reaches a resistance, and then it rises again, you buy again? Isn't that silly?
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Buy when drop. Otherwise stay out.

You will feel even more stupid if you sell n make profit, buy back again and lose your profit and probably even more.
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post Jan 29 2020, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Jan 29 2020, 11:56 AM)
then super high dividend yield? Can sustain or not?
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Up more than 12% today..nice green.. 😆

On the DY, keep track of the sales as I said.
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post Jan 30 2020, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Jan 30 2020, 10:32 PM)
I wonder, wouldn't it be better to buy BRKB than S&P500 ETF??
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Last 5 years, SPY has outperformed Brkb price wise and also pays dividends, unlike Brkb.
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post Jan 31 2020, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(buncho89 @ Jan 31 2020, 04:12 PM)
Wow lots of counters nosediving... anyone know what’s up? Cos of corona virus? Lol
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The worry is impact of the virus on economy/businesses.
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post Feb 3 2020, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 3 2020, 04:03 PM)
my european ETFs have rebounded... so it will not be any red today?
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Looks like markets have calmed down, even klci has narrowed its losses. Not sure whether it's premature tho..

In the US, we have the Democratic Iowa vote today, the first of a series, to see which Democrat gets to fight Trump in the coming election. Wonder whether that will impact the market.
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post Feb 3 2020, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 3 2020, 09:07 PM)
yen
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USD, JPY and CHF are the safe heaven currencies.
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post Feb 4 2020, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 3 2020, 09:35 PM)
I'm actually fond of JPY but not so much on Tokyo Stock Exchange.
JP likes to weaken their exchange rate to boost export. So if you hold JPY, it might devalue.

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Countries want to devalue their currencies to maintain export competitiveness. Even Trump would like a weaker dollar, that's why he keep pushing the Fed to cut more.

That's a good reason to keep another currency which is Gold, or if you more adventurous also crypto.

That's why my "cash" is in the form of MYR, USD and Gold. I do have some small amount of BTC as well.

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QUOTE(MightyPepe @ Feb 4 2020, 12:56 AM)
Hi all,

I bought the Icon share at 0.7 which is for fun on 25th Jan to try out as I am still new to shares.

As of today the stocks has disappeared from my investment portfolio.

May I know anybody is familiar with this and kind enough to explain?

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Asuming you paid, and that u bought the share and not the OR, u better check with your broker what happened.

I think there were some screw up coz too many things were happening. Share consol, rights issue, limit ups and counter then designated. I read many oversold position.

But haiiah.. New to share market n buy this tyoe of counter.. Why la.

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post Feb 4 2020, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(MightyPepe @ Feb 4 2020, 03:27 PM)
Realized someone was playing contra and unable to pick up. Hence, they are unable to deliver the shares to me so bursa will be reimbursing my shares.  console.gif
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Will you be reimbursed cash or shares?
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post Feb 11 2020, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(lfw @ Feb 11 2020, 10:56 AM)
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anyone can explain why the one year total return is negative but it still have dividend yield?

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I guess you are new to stock investing?

Return negative coz price fell over the year.
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post Feb 12 2020, 01:40 PM

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Malaysia GDP 3.6% in last quarter. That's bad. No wonder BNM did that sudden rate cut.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-below-forecast

Whole year 2019 just 4.3%.

I don't want to be political.. But PH govt please wake up.. U guys still syok sendiri very high. Non stop excuses. LGE was projecting 4.7% for 2019. Way off target.

2020 LGE project 4.8%, can believe or not now?

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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 12 2020, 05:19 PM)
they surely can talk with all their formulas before GE14.

We need GST really badly.
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No.. Introducing GST now will just hit consumer confidence more. Consumer is currently what is holding up the economy from further drop. Now with the virus.. That's at risk too.

It's just that PH govt is so slow and uncoordinated. Probably busy playing their stupid political games.

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post Feb 12 2020, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 12 2020, 09:25 PM)
sometimes I feel like investing in Malaysia (whether stock market or as a country or any other aspects), is like investing in a company with bad management. sad.gif
My local to foreign share ratio is about 60:40 now. If I liquidate all the local shares, then the return would be worse than FD.  cry.gif
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Ya.. Unfortunately true.

If u study the BNM GDP announcement it mainly blamed the drop on last Q GDP to "disruption in the commodity sector" and "fall in public sector investments".

which to me means:

1) India palm oil boycott
2) Projects - slow poke implementation

Both are self inflicted factors n not really external factors.


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post Feb 19 2020, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 19 2020, 11:04 AM)
what is rakuten points?? can use in Japan?
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No la.. Can get discounts for AirAsia but need super high points.
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post Feb 23 2020, 03:52 PM

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Very strong political wind today.. So I start to think about stockmarket tomorrow. I must be old n cynical now.
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post Feb 23 2020, 07:32 PM

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Well hopefully exchange will be open tomorrow..

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post Feb 23 2020, 11:23 PM

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No news yet of a market closure.

If so, it will be a very volatile day tomorrow. Market will surely gap down at open. Will see if can make the best of this stupid situation n earn some short term money.

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post Feb 24 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Feb 24 2020, 02:13 PM)
so Tun has resigned

so will this news recover the dip?

all got spooked for nothing?
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Drama not over yet..
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post Feb 24 2020, 06:03 PM

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What a day! KLCI now at 2011 levels.

N Europe has dropped. Looks like US will be down too.

So tomorrow may still be red.



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