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post Sep 2 2020, 03:43 PM

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KLCI is looking very healthy and green today

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post Sep 2 2020, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Speedstar1 @ Sep 2 2020, 04:29 PM)
Crazy ppl buying into banks. Go ask your local bank branch if anyone is asking for moratorium extension.
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They are looking into midterm rebound somewhere between 6 months to 12 months from now.

Source: Malaysian reserve.
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Nevertheless, buying banks at this price now will give you handsome dividend yields for long term after the economy recovers. However, I am still waiting for the
1. Sep 10: BNM MPC meeting on OPR, this gives a good indication of the economic recovery track
2. Sep 11: July unemployment data, this gives a good indication of possible NPLs

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post Sep 2 2020, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 2 2020, 05:25 PM)
biggrin.gif  that guy talk as if like Malaysian Ringgit is a reserve currency.
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LOL, from which part that you interpreted that the analyst talk as if like Malaysian Ringgit is a reserve currency?

So, in your opinion, non-US banks really have no future? Enlighten me please.

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post Sep 3 2020, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(bronkos @ Sep 3 2020, 10:55 AM)
no cheong for TG this morning ah?
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Already cheong to very high compared to other klci components... top1 gainer with 3.5%... look at his comrades, harta, kossan, supermax, 1 barely in green, harta slowly bringing traders to back to holland
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post Sep 3 2020, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ Sep 3 2020, 10:59 AM)
Harta is really dropping like mad
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QR under expectations too much
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/how-...d-sustain-rally

Hartalega's 1QFY21 net profit only accounted for 13% of the full-year earnings consensus.

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post Sep 3 2020, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(bronkos @ Sep 3 2020, 11:04 AM)
CIMB how? can enter now or wait till reaching 3?
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Bro, die die wait only until Sept 11, see OPR and unemployment data 1st

Better to be safe than sorry

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post Sep 3 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Sep 3 2020, 11:06 AM)
Wait
Heard another 25 opt cut on 10 September
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If cut, no need buy banks, wait the next BNM MPC meeting in Nov
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post Sep 3 2020, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(B@rt @ Sep 3 2020, 11:10 AM)
Foreign investment outflow probably cos they are all going in to DJI tech stocks.  Probably have to wait for that bubble to burst first before the foreign money comes back in.
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I actually have the same thoughts as you lol. If you are in it to play capital appreciation game in blue chips, really need foreign inflow.

But, if the there are enough indicators for the showing that economy recovery is back on track. I will just buy, just take the dividend, no need the capital appreciation play.
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post Sep 3 2020, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Sep 3 2020, 11:19 AM)
hahahaha okay nice nice.. at least we on the same boat.. Maybank also down T.T.. average down which side.. maybank or cimb bank? cimb bank the ETA is pretty good thinking to pump in more into it as well. but moratorium ending need to prepare RM30k for my installments next month also. hahaha
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LOL, pay your home loan 1st...

QUOTE(kidmad @ Sep 3 2020, 11:29 AM)
usually whatever everyone predicts.. the opposite will happen. HAHAHAHA

PS: anyway enough for this years stock market.. nabeh.. from my 100k initial investment now i'm looking at 79k... hopefully it goes back to normal.

stashaway for the remaining months of the year.
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Can la, chill, lke he said, bank performance = economy performance; banks are highly cyclical.

Buying at trough will not go wrong.


Sample case study (Maybank in AFC 1997):
Maybank dropped from a high of RM8.00 in February 1997 to a low of RM1.50 in August 1998- a drop of RM6.50 or 81%
Then, went back to RM9.65 in January 2000- a gain of RM8.15 or 543%!

If you sui sui bought at RM8 in Feb 1997, after 3 years you still gain compounded 6.5% per year (dividend exclusive)

Just buy stocks that can comeback, dont buy stocks that will/might die.
And buy the most hardly hit ones for maximum gains

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post Sep 3 2020, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Sep 3 2020, 11:24 AM)
I am holding harta at insane high, comfort and carepls, all red, gg
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A true investor will be happy if the share price drops. biggrin.gif
Are you a true investor? Or you simply just there to trade.

If you are a true investor, good chance for you to buy more
If you are just there to trade, might want to consider trimming your position

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post Sep 3 2020, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Sep 3 2020, 11:34 AM)
LOL, pay your home loan 1st...
Can la, chill, lke he said, bank performance = economy performance; banks are highly cyclical.

Buying at trough will not go wrong.
Sample case study (Maybank in AFC 1997):
Maybank dropped from a high of RM8.00 in February 1997 to a low of RM1.50 in August 1998- a drop of RM6.50 or 81%
Then, went back to RM9.65 in January 2000- a gain of RM8.15 or 543%!

If you sui sui bought at RM8 in Feb 1997, after 3 years you still gain compounded 6.5% per year (dividend exclusive)

Just buy stocks that can comeback, dont buy stocks that will/might die.
And buy the most hardly hit ones for maximum gains
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Sadly, banks drop so little this time...
Maybank only drop RM1...
CIMB only drop RM2...
I pray that it can drop until niama cannot recognize

But will start buying (even if no drop) when economic indicators are turning good..
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post Sep 3 2020, 12:36 PM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/hart...4pApYI.facebook

Apparent switch from predominantly Covid-19 pandemic-themed to a recovery-focused investment strategy. Slowly but surely.

Waiting for indicators, and sailang

CDC vaccine Nov1
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post Sep 3 2020, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 3 2020, 12:39 PM)
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Analysts lower FBM KLCI year-end target

MIDF Research has cut its FBM KLCI outlook to 1,400 due to the recent quarterly earnings season where financial results were below market expectations.

PETALING JAYA: Brokers have cut their year-end FBM KLCI target to reflect the weak corporate earnings from April to June, despite their belief that earnings would be stronger in the second half of the year, with the government’s stimulus measures and a recovery in demand.

MIDF Research has cut its FBM KLCI outlook to 1,400 due to the recent quarterly earnings season where financial results were below market expectations.


This is a contributing factor to the downfall today?  rclxub.gif
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If topglov and harta can pull KLCI from 1200-1600, then it is only sensible for KLCI to drop when Topglov and Harta share price normalizes
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post Sep 3 2020, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Sep 3 2020, 01:53 PM)
harta 17.45
comfort 4.72
carepls  5.13
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Look at the forums, all the old old commentators all went missing. Something doesnt feel right
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post Sep 3 2020, 02:07 PM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/rubb...ll-profittaking

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Gloves downgraded to neutral because ASP will begin to taper off in [the first quarter of] 2021

Duopharma Biotech Bhd and Pharmaniaga Bhd also downgraded because prices of these pharmaceutical companies had run ahead of fundamentals.

Investors are likely to rotate in the later part of the year to cyclical sectors, which will benefit from the recovering economy post-COVID-19.
So what to buy for economy recovering play? You know I know. brows.gif brows.gif

But to be safe, lets wait until Sep 11 for the indicators

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post Sep 3 2020, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Sep 3 2020, 02:38 PM)
Look like glove frenzy is over.

Harta keep on falling.
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Sep 3 2020, 02:41 PM)
Bought 3 lots TG at 26.08 yesterday.

Now like slowly going down.

Should I sell? sweat.gif

This split confusing my decision a little
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Harta Kossan: Head and Shoulder pattern
Topglove supermax: Double Top pattern

You call to buy or sell thumbsup.gif

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post Sep 3 2020, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 3 2020, 02:40 PM)
More like "stock market frenzy" is over. All sectors are looking quite dim.
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Trading hype will slowly die off when one can no longer easily make instant profit., especially with moratorium ending soon (2 more months before 31 Oct when everyone needs to start paying loan)
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post Sep 3 2020, 02:58 PM

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Gloves can easily go back to pre-boom price range with ASP normalizing. Harta already can go down 10% today
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post Sep 3 2020, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(bronkos @ Sep 3 2020, 03:15 PM)
Currently queue at 8.3, if didn't make it then yes tomorrow it is.
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Use the pre-covid
1. Net profit margin
2. Compounded annual growth in revenue (demand)
3. PE15x
to value your stocks before making decision for long term investment

Assumptions are
1. Profit margin doesnt get squeezed by more glove players.
2. Demand remains (no next pandemic and vaccine works)

For scalping/trading, use charts, I cant comment whistling.gif

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post Sep 3 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(bronkos @ Sep 3 2020, 03:22 PM)
that old bird koon saw it coming in his previous blog mentioned that after BI share prices will drop.
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It has happened before...
Read the whole thing here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1044569/+0

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