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post Mar 3 2021, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 3 2021, 11:42 AM)
Good morning folks.

Glove stocks rebounded strongly for the morning session. Up from +5% to +10%. Supemax is up +10.22%.

2 possibilities:

1.  This is a dead cat bounce OR

2.  All the margin players, contra players and weak players been flushed out these few days. I assume that margin calls for Supermax and the other glove stocks would have been triggered these few days thus leading to further blood baths.

Therefore, once the slaughter is done, this leaves the survivors, glove holders with cash and those coming "to pick up the dead chicken". Mega discount for glove stocks.

I don't know the answer.

Let's enjoy the ride for now.  smile.gif

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Yesterday I sold off the following trading stocks:

Adventa +3.96%
Kenanga +1.13%
MESB      +4.38%
Timecom  -1.01%
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Wow 8 out of 10 times u buy sure earn profit one. How did u find out which stock to trade?
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post Mar 3 2021, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Mar 3 2021, 11:44 AM)
Uncle, if dead cat bounce, then how long does a trend like this normally last? Half a day, like this morning?
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Sometimes, a dead cat bounce can be for the morning session only or a 1 day show. I have experienced it before for glove stocks.

In the morning session, my unrealised profit was five figure but by the afternoon session, all the glove stocks retreated and my unrealised profits was wiped out and became unrealised losses.

QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Mar 3 2021, 11:46 AM)
Wow 8 out of 10 times u buy sure earn profit one. How did u find out which stock to trade?
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As I have said before, I read the current news, look at the recommendation by the analysts and then put it into the health check up of Simply Wall Street and Absolutely Stocks. Also try to do some simple TA but I am not good in this.

I have lost a lot of money before. Not all wins. I do post my losses as well. smile.gif

This post has been edited by Vanguard 2015: Mar 3 2021, 11:53 AM
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post Mar 3 2021, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 3 2021, 11:21 AM)
not much to do with customers or revenues or profits - they r all good for all glovemakers.

mr bursa market is irrational, imo. biggrin.gif

my read it has stable EPF support, lesser RSS shorts and less jittery retailers.
the worst one is SPMX - no big major investors, plenty of punting retailers.

SPMX last 3 qtrs EPS 41.14, 30.58, 30.38; assuming same EPS for next QR (which is reasonable), total annual EPS = rm1.43.

yesterday closing 4.11 implying a PER of 2.88.

right, "stock price is forward looking, prices in all future events" i.e. mr bursa market is saying SPMX will make ZERO profits or loss in <3 years time.

think about that! tongue.gif
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if mr bursa is irrational; would be irrational during uptrend as well as downtrend.

if immunization proceed as planned in the u.s and e.u, could expect gloves profits after q3/21 will be a fraction of current.

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post Mar 3 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Mar 3 2021, 11:38 AM)
Gloves looking more bullish. Is a rebound imminent?

But then again, today bank & tech is red. What if Dow turns green today?

Will tomorrow be a continuation of gloves' reversal of fortunes?
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post Mar 3 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 3 2021, 11:52 AM)
Sometimes, a dead cat bounce can be for the morning session only or a 1 day show. I have experienced it before for glove stocks.

Morning session, my unrealised profit was five figure but by afternoon afternoon session, all the glove stocks retreated and my unrealised profits was wiped out and became unrealised losses.
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Thanks, Uncle...as I'm clearing my gloves after months of waiting...they baru start going up and up fast. So I don't wanna be hopeful and probably take this chance to clear entire remaining balance of 2nd liners because they've been down >40%.
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sold off my pharmaniaga for 60% profit. dropping so much for past 2 weeks laugh.gif


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 3 2021, 11:52 AM)
if mr bursa is irrational; would be irrational during uptrend as well as downtrend.

believe i.b expect gloves profits after q3/21 will be a fraction of current.
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cukuplah, adui.... Who dunno irrationality works both ways? doh.gif I also can say now start irrational optimism, TG & Spmx could fly RM6

Enough of that.

What about your stocks? Why did you buy these stocks? Share with us la. Maybe you have potential 10 bagger that we can learn from.
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post Mar 3 2021, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Mar 3 2021, 11:55 AM)
Thanks, Uncle...as I'm clearing my gloves after months of waiting...they baru start going up and up fast. So I don't wanna be hopeful and probably take this chance to clear entire remaining balance of 2nd liners because they've been down >40%.
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You are welcome. As I have said before, you can always sell in stages (whether to lock in the gains or to reduce the losses). smile.gif

No right or wrong approach. Just decide and don't look back or regret the decision.

Switching off the computer, hiding under the bed and refusing to do anything is the worst option! tongue.gif

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post Mar 3 2021, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 3 2021, 11:25 AM)
quite negative, so be it.

i see bargain hunting since yesterday but did not close green.

see what happens this afternoon.

the net shorts are still incr for TG and spmx but reducing for kossan.
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everyday is bargain hunting. The question is what is the price that you want to achieve for averaging down and the plan for it.

averaging down to get more share quantity is much more difficult to do compare to buy into uptrend because you are fighting with smart money to collect bargain chips.

check around, is those hardcore glove supporters have turned bearish? if yes, then we entering into despair stage, which is the last stage. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 3 2021, 11:55 AM)
sold off my pharmaniaga for 60% profit. dropping so much for past 2 weeks  laugh.gif
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Your cost price must be damn low to still get 60% profit ohmy.gif

Many would have lost money if bought since few mths ago.

A profit is a profit though, good for you thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 3 2021, 11:55 AM)
sold off my pharmaniaga for 60% profit. dropping so much for past 2 weeks  laugh.gif
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Hmm, after Kossan ex-date, now shorties come.
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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Mar 3 2021, 12:00 PM)
Your cost price must be damn low to still get 60% profit  ohmy.gif

Many would have lost money if bought since few mths ago.

A profit is a profit though, good for you  thumbsup.gif
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bought it way before pandemic started. went as high as 115%. faster realised profit now la scared already. was expecting the price to be sustainable since they could distribute Sinovac vaccines unsure.gif

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 3 2021, 12:00 PM)
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Mar 3 2021, 11:59 AM)
everyday is bargain hunting. The question is what is the price that you want to achieve for averaging down and the plan for it.

averaging down to get more share quantity is much more difficult to do compare to buy into uptrend because you are fighting with smart money to collect bargain chips.

check around, is those hardcore glove supporters have turned bearish? if yes, then we entering into despair stage, which is the last stage.  biggrin.gif
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I'm still holding spx and its over 10k loss as at ytd haha...... but today pump back to below 10k loss liao... dunno want happy or cry lol...

But yea, if today can close at current price or higher, tomorrow hopefully should continue green.....Based on the chart if rebound, the range should be at around RM 5.6-5.8 and if reach there, i prepare to cut loss if the rebound is gone case....
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 3 2021, 11:52 AM)
Sometimes, a dead cat bounce can be for the morning session only or a 1 day show. I have experienced it before for glove stocks.

In the morning session, my unrealised profit was five figure but by the afternoon session, all the glove stocks retreated and my unrealised profits was wiped out and became unrealised losses.
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yesterday...

i had profit in comfort and careplus, then turned to loss.

this morning, profit again. sweat.gif
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 3 2021, 12:04 PM)
yesterday...

i had profit in comfort and careplus, then turned to loss.

this morning, profit again. sweat.gif
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Let's wait for the afternoon show, whether good or bad.

My HLT and Ruberex stocks are moving up fast. From unrealised losses yesterday to unrealised gain today.

HLT +15.06% and Ruberex +13.76% in the market.

But I think gone are the days last year when all the 4 second liner stocks that I bought limit up for 2 days straight.
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QUOTE(skty @ Mar 3 2021, 11:59 AM)
everyday is bargain hunting. The question is what is the price that you want to achieve for averaging down and the plan for it.

averaging down to get more share quantity is much more difficult to do compare to buy into uptrend because you are fighting with smart money to collect bargain chips.

check around, is those hardcore glove supporters have turned bearish? if yes, then we entering into despair stage, which is the last stage.  biggrin.gif
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i mean big buys yesterday... today looks same.

yeah, i think we r at the last stage... many have already dumped!

QUOTE(Randomization @ Mar 3 2021, 12:02 PM)
Hmm, after Kossan ex-date, now shorties come.
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the data shows shortie bought back several million kossan shares last 2 days, now <50mil.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 3 2021, 11:59 AM)
You are welcome. As I have said before, you can always sell in stages (whether to lock in the gains or to reduce the losses).  smile.gif

No right or wrong approach. Just decide and don't look back or regret the decision.

Switching off the computer, hiding under the bed and refusing to do anything is the worst option!  tongue.gif
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Yeah, selling in stages now and 'try' not to look back, lol...I'll be damned if 2nd liners shoot up for longer period than I thought.

QUOTE(skty @ Mar 3 2021, 11:59 AM)
everyday is bargain hunting. The question is what is the price that you want to achieve for averaging down and the plan for it.

averaging down to get more share quantity is much more difficult to do compare to buy into uptrend because you are fighting with smart money to collect bargain chips.

check around, is those hardcore glove supporters have turned bearish? if yes, then we entering into despair stage, which is the last stage.  biggrin.gif
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Me...with TG and Smax. Despairing, indeed, lol

QUOTE(Rinth @ Mar 3 2021, 12:03 PM)
I'm still holding spx and its over 10k loss as at ytd haha...... but today pump back to below 10k loss liao... dunno want happy or cry lol...

But yea, if today can close at current price or higher, tomorrow hopefully should continue green.....Based on the chart if rebound, the range should be at around RM 5.6-5.8 and if reach there, i prepare to cut loss if the rebound is gone case....
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Good ah, dared to pump in more...at least today it's very green.
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:18 PM

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Technical sifus sekalian, TG must break 5.04 first before any solid uptrend can be deduced, right?
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Mar 3 2021, 12:03 PM)
I'm still holding spx and its over 10k loss as at ytd haha...... but today pump back to below 10k loss liao... dunno want happy or cry lol...

But yea, if today can close at current price or higher, tomorrow hopefully should continue green.....Based on the chart if rebound, the range should be at around RM 5.6-5.8 and if reach there, i prepare to cut loss if the rebound is gone case....
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 3 2021, 12:09 PM)
i mean big buys yesterday... today looks same.

yeah, i think we r at the last stage... many have already dumped!
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the TG group still got 40k++ people inside. biggrin.gif

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