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skty
post Sep 10 2020, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Sep 10 2020, 07:33 PM)
Okay let me change my question. Those still holding gloves, how long you guys going to keep holding? At what price are you going to sell
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Simple answer. When it is OVERVALUED.
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post Sep 10 2020, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Sep 10 2020, 07:48 PM)
What value is overvalued in your opinion?
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my value will change over the time based on any incident that might affect the fundamental of the company

at the moment is RM12, but I am very conservative. Some might have higher TP biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Sep 10 2020, 08:09 PM)
Good to know. I'm assuming 12 is for TG?
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Oh yes. And spmx next QR is going to outperform TG by miles (in terms of EPS) tongue.gif

QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 10 2020, 08:45 PM)
Hahaha mana company bro? 1.4 billion PAT abit hard to break, 1.2 highly possible
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hahaha no courage to tell openly like you leh. tongue.gif

never say never.

I calculated 1.2bil with only 20% spot order.

During the EGM, Tan Sri surprised me with 30% spot order. I really underestimated TG.

2021 QR Q1 or Q2 PAT 2bil, one quarter earn Maybank's four quarters. Show them who is the boss. devil.gif

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post Sep 10 2020, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 10 2020, 10:50 PM)
first, give yourself the answer - what is the healthcare sector's average PE?
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when TG come out result you will know what is the PE.
skty
post Sep 11 2020, 10:30 AM

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Oooooppss

“Suddenly” it rebound eh? Haha
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post Sep 11 2020, 10:41 AM

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Hahaha those who keep saying about TA... come come we talk about TA now ya.

What’s Ichimoku strong support and what stage of wave is it in Elliott Wave?
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post Sep 11 2020, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(lauwenhan @ Sep 11 2020, 10:42 AM)
Bro wtf? Are you talking alien language? Hahaha
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hahaha ok just ignore me if you don't know what are those.

for those who purely invest based on TA, bullish signal still not yet appear. So DON'T invest. rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 11 2020, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Sep 11 2020, 10:44 AM)
Bro.. stop trying to be showy showy about your TA jargons la..

make you look stupid  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I want to talk about TA because TA not yet show bullish sign.

Those who mastered in TA can talk more about it.

anyway, my noise can just be ignored if you don't like it. Just focus on your own plan will do. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 11 2020, 10:51 AM

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BTW just a reminder for those who get stucked in other stocks.

now represent a great time for you to adjust your portfolio.

swap your funds from company that not so performing into company that performing. Try to ride on the trend to coup back losses.

been doing that for the past few days because don't wanna touch my war chest. Trying to control my greed as well.
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post Sep 11 2020, 10:54 AM

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RSI hit 30 and rebound.

this time the momentum is gonna be strong.

but still no bullish sign appear yet. smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2020, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Sep 11 2020, 10:59 AM)
Macquarie. They manipulated the price down so they can collect back their expiring warrants
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Actually not.

Their report is just stupid.

If you read it, you can see their opinion is ASP will continue to increase until 2022. Demand will keep increasing.

Then they stupidly go and take a past example and apply it in glove stock. They say rm5.40 TP is for 2022. Hahahahaha
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post Sep 11 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 11 2020, 11:24 AM)
Ya, its damn bloody stupid. They give such a big range (few years), and simply pluck a value and put it as TP, lmao. Whoever didnt read the whole report will think its gonna me 5.4 soon.
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hahaha yaya agree.

trying to trap retailer who lazy to read or don't know how to read. just look at TP and goes to "OMG" mode.

if IB TP can use, nobody will lose money already in stock market. hahaha
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post Sep 11 2020, 11:41 AM

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never ever chase high guys. If you still don't want to learn, 14th floor is waiting for you.

no share can go up forever or go down forever, wait for rebound and correction only go in.
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post Sep 11 2020, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(melt @ Sep 11 2020, 11:45 AM)
burned a few time lesson learnt... but sometimes hand still itchy haha almost have the urge to go in just now but stopped myself
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tuition fee well paid.

you learned to control greed and strictly follow systematized investment.
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post Sep 11 2020, 01:22 PM

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https://koonyewyin.com/2020/09/11/good-oppo...wqYopYqVgRwdFjA

Haha a good read if you want to improve your mindset.

Those who blame KYY are loser because they blame everyone else expect themselves when they failed in investment.

Those kind of people will never be successful.
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post Sep 11 2020, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(B@rt @ Sep 11 2020, 03:30 PM)
Somebody mentioned Tan Sri Lim got announcement today? any source?
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not announcement. interview. 9pm - 9.30pm TV8
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post Sep 12 2020, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(skty @ Aug 15 2020, 07:01 PM)
you bought at 25, what's your TP back then? you gonna be clear with that so you know when to take profit.

my strong believe is TG is going to be the biggest market cap in Bursa during this pandemic. And based on that calculation, it also gives me a TP already. You can disagree or have different TP. No right or wrong.

By looking at spmx latest NP is matched with my forecast, I have more confidence TG NP is also gonna matched my forecast expectation NP instead of my forecast of minimum NP.

I have yet to revise my TP as I am waiting for TG latest QR for some figure confirmation so I can have a better forecast for beyond Sept.
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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 10 2020, 07:34 PM)
2021 Q1 quarter PAT should challenge Maybank annual PAT. use 1 quarter PAT to beat Maybank's 1 year PAT. push that tiger down to 2nd place.  devil.gif
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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 10 2020, 09:57 PM)
2021 QR Q1 or Q2 PAT 2bil, one quarter earn Maybank's four quarters. Show them who is the boss.  devil.gif
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suddenly everyone so optimistic about something that is not new.

those who did homework already knew TG is going to be the biggest market cap in Bursa during this pandemic.

so don't keep asking for TP. biggrin.gif doh.gif
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post Sep 12 2020, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 11 2020, 11:04 PM)
Fuh. How the mood in this thread has swung from fear to FOMO within 24 hours.

Time for me to sell my glove stocks next week. 😀
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hahaha still need sheep to go up to the hill what.

QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 11 2020, 11:07 PM)
Takeaway of the Dato Lim  live interview:-
-Indicate that next Thurs market cap will likely exceed Public & Maybank
-Be patience, results will be good.
-on competition, gloves is competitive as it is global biz. There r 250 factories globally, but left 20% only.
-New entrant to market is natural, but whether they can sustain after 3 years is another question.
-Waiting period .. nitrile 620 days
-emphasising on automation and digitalization in production. TG has 6 R&D centres, with 750 staff, of which 300+ are engineer. 30+ r PHD
-gloves generally up 10% to 15%, but now at 50% during pandemic
-now is 5 cycles in history, but cycle is different
-aim to list in HK next year
-aim to break into Fortune 500 companies after Petronas ( but not mentioned which yr)
-he is now 60 yrs old, want to live till 120 yrs old
- he considers all his 20k staff as his children. Whoever better will lead, not necessary his sons
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thanks for the summary.

didn't manage to watch live. but I watching now via facebook.

just went for a celebration for my friends for manage to catch a lot of spmx and Harta for the past few days.

happy for them because they are gonna outperform a lot of peers who concentrate on TG only.

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post Sep 12 2020, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Sep 12 2020, 12:41 AM)
Battle angin next week
Long live my mates
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hey bro, I still remember you doubting the value of glove companies.

not trying to talk big about anything but hope you can also benefit from this experience and become a better investor to spot companies value before others see it.

those who have doubt or chase high today can also remember your feeling, record down, and revisit it months later.

wonderful experience where you hardly can find it nowadays.

always remember one thing: "if you think you can win big with your luck, you can also lose big with your strength".
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post Sep 12 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 12 2020, 09:00 AM)
Still feel the quarter is dissapointing but then tg founder rarely give false statement one.

So this quarter PAT gonna be 1.2b - 1.5b already ? Wow man
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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 7 2020, 11:05 PM)
sweat.gif

cannot invest like that lo...

go into the business... calculate from the ground up...

how many annual gloves capacity... now easy to calculate because demand = 100% sold out

know the cost price, calculate the ASP, estimate the increase every month...

you get it... 1 bil PAT... sap sap sui...
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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 10 2020, 04:33 PM)
since its so near to the QR date already, just want to disclose my estimated earning for TG is 1.1bil minimum to 1.4bil maximum.
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Investment cannot use feeling. Feeling is emotion. Not logic. Do homework.


QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 12 2020, 10:31 AM)
Just to requote back a very very good piece of advice here for everyone to learn. Hope u guys can learn from this quote and apply it to current scenario. U wont be able to find such good advise outside so easily.

Thanks skty for this.  notworthy.gif
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Welcome bro. I will appear less here from now onward as I need to start to calculate what's the bottom line when vaccine announced. People will panic sell again and it may lead to super bargain price to pick up when it's oversold.

I also need to review the whole market and start to strategize my portfolio reallocation post pandemic. Many bargain out there that has no uptrend yet! thumbup.gif

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