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dickybird
post Dec 8 2020, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 8 2020, 05:06 PM)
No sifu here woi.

Tembak sana tembak sini saja.

But I try not to trade in pure goreng stocks. Very suey one. No luck at all. I got burnt badly before.

I tried to use a combination of valuation + fundamental + momentum.  Not completely risk free but the odds are much better than going into pure goreng stocks.

I like to compare stock trading with playing blackjack. In both situations, we are calculating the odds and trying to minimise the risks. When the House is showing an Ace and we have a Six, it is suicidal to double down.

But when the House is showing a Six and I have an Ace or two Aces, then I will double down or split the Aces.

When I see a goreng stock with zero valuation and weak fundamental, I know it is extremely high risk. Do I want to make a potential 20%  profit with the risk of losing 20% or more? It is a 1:1 risk reward ratio or worst. It doesn't seem to be worth it.

What do you think? My method can work or not?  laugh.gif

The pure chartists here are probably going  doh.gif
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i hardly look at the Most Active Board, because scared of kena goreng.
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post Dec 9 2020, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(gapipig @ Dec 9 2020, 04:54 PM)
Kinda stuck now man.. I look at its behavior quite a bit.. seems to be stabilizing at 0.8.... Today it went up 0.9 mini bull then slowly pulled back.. I wonder if it will break 1.0 again then perhaps I can get out safely...
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It might be years before you see your capital again.
But if you think you can hold then go long.
I was lucky, held for 3 years and gained 15% when it shot up.
Never again.
Go long but don't average down.
Choice is yours.
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post Dec 9 2020, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(gapipig @ Dec 9 2020, 05:13 PM)
I don't plan on holding this long term, as of now I'm just waiting but it's receiving support at around 0.77 then went back to 0.8. Seems like some groups are keeping it there. It's been red since monday, today it closed green. Perhaps, I'll wait till next week to evaluate. If it kept floating around 0.7~0.8 then I will probably cut loss. What do you think?
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Cut loss and pay other things be more worthwhile because the market is starting to recover.
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post Dec 9 2020, 06:54 PM

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Eh, what happened to that TG inside fella?
Now no more see or hear him?
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post Dec 10 2020, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Dec 9 2020, 10:20 PM)
I agree. i3 was my go-to for stock investment a few years ago, until I realised it was a toxic place, full of deceit and fake gurus promoting their stocks. Now, I only use it for easy dividend reference and price targets from research reports. Lowyat is better for discussion, and less toxic. But still, for newbies, the best thing is still to learn from books like Peter Lynch or Google some prominent investors' strategy like Buffett or Templeton.
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i3 good coz can read the technical stuff and headlines and analyst coverage all in 1 page, easy.
just avoid the comments section can dy.
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post Dec 10 2020, 12:43 PM

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Slvest sold today for 10% gain after 1 week.
Watching MrDiy
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post Dec 10 2020, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 10 2020, 11:31 AM)
For Top Glove, total shares of 16,700 at an average cost of RM7.373.

For Supermax, total shares of 12,600 at an average cost of RM8.486.

Just to give some comfort to the other forumers here who are "trapped" in glove stocks.  console.gif
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My costs are 8.70 and 8.82 respectively.
My Careplus is 4.42 unfortunately.
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post Dec 10 2020, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Dec 10 2020, 12:47 PM)
This DIY.....i'm looking at them since IPO RM 1.60.....after small hiccup then keep going up and up almost double IPO price.......i dunno how to valuate this business.....
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I am just riding the Chart.
It is in the retail sector so it will be affected somewhat by the cmco and such but with the lifting of restrictions, sales will be up.
Wait and see QR I guess.
It's part of the local recovery play.

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post Dec 10 2020, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 10 2020, 12:56 PM)
I am also holding Careplus. My average costs is RM3.090.

Your average price for Careplus is too high....just my view.
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I agree
I have never had much luck with the second liner glove counters.
Comfort also I lost money. Sighs

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post Dec 10 2020, 01:39 PM

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I sold slvest and bought a bit more Myeg.

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post Dec 10 2020, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 10 2020, 02:41 PM)
Bursa Malaysia is really mafia style. This news was first reported by the Edge newspaper last Sunday.

"KUALA LUMPUR (Dec 10): Inix Technologies Holdings Bhd’s former chairman Wan Kuok Koi has been blacklisted by the US due to his activities at the helm of the 14K Triad, according to a report.

Reuters reported that the US had slapped sanctions on Wan, who is the leader of the organised crime group involved in drug trafficking, illegal gambling, racketeering, human trafficking and other criminal activities....
Meanwhile at Inix, after a short stint of four months, he resigned from his post on Dec 2. On the same day, Inix announced the appointment of Tan Sri Mohamad Fuzi Harun, a retired inspector-general of the Royal Malaysia Police, as its independent and non-executive chairman, although he, too, resigned from his role a mere five days after the appointment".

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/545288
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A person of good standing, fit and proper he is not. If a company can appoint such a person to the BOD, sell! And never touch it in the first place.
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post Dec 10 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Dec 10 2020, 03:36 PM)
Thanks for advice. Truth be told when Moo wanted to call for emergency that time, I wanted to go in more but failed to (chicken out). I am only around 30% vested out of 100% planned investments. Profit around 5% of the 30% vested currently. So the rest of the money went into FD at 2.5%...

My bank stocks at one point went down more than 20%, so now when it is up to slight green, urge is there to sell. Like US stocks, went down more than 20% to only go up in slight green. Sold it to only see it goes up much more. The rollercoaster not for the faint hearted. Anyway I decided to hold on until around Christmas time. Hope no big negative event happens.
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Window dressing will chase up prices. Your call as always.
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post Dec 10 2020, 05:03 PM

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Please don't turn this place into i3
Personal attacks etc
No personal insults please.
Present your views or facts politely.
I had a good day so far,
Sold solarvest +11%
Bought Myeg at 1.90 when it retraced.
Sold half MrDiy for +17%
Both sells were because they had run up somewhat and a bit far from support.
Uptrend is probably intact but take some profit for xmas first la.
Hehe
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post Dec 10 2020, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2020, 05:08 PM)
If you want to hold long, just leave it there and dont look.

My EPF withdrawal to PB Growth Fund was negative 30% after leaving there for 1 year+. Withdraw last month after it turned green by about 10%.

Insas drop to 38c, I dont really bother, cost 1.08. Now already 88c.

Homeritz drop to 37c, cost 68c, now 1.06


If your holding is good stocks with plenty of cash/assets to burn, they will get through whatever crisis in front. If you hold goreng stock, then god bless you. Just dont be greedy. If you had a lot of money, then separate the funds. 75% buy good stocks to hold, no eyes see, collect divvy. Balance you want to goreng or whatever, just go for it. Year end, do the math and see which one suits you more.
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post Dec 10 2020, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Dec 10 2020, 07:18 PM)
Anyone holding Tasco ?  Another silent star performer as well
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Part of the vaccine delivery theme play, no?
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post Dec 11 2020, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Dec 11 2020, 10:17 AM)
I cannot brain our market :confused: . Frenzy buying on banking stocks when NPL may just be around the corner. Do correct me if I am wrong
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Window dressing ma
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post Dec 11 2020, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Dec 11 2020, 10:35 AM)
There's this thing called loan loss provision (acted as buffer against NPL), they have already allocated a huge amount for that. So basically the coming NPL will be absorbed by this fund.

Rose most likely because, the NIM is normalizing instead of temporarily decreasing when OPR started to be cut. When OPR starts rising, NIM will be temporarily raised.
So when OPR starts rising, banks will temporarily do better.

When you start seeing OPR rising, the share price will be shoot even higher temporarily. Like how it plungged temporarily due to OPR cut, one off modification loss and NPL. Since, you know that this improved in fundamentals due to OPR rising is temporary, and the share price will only be elevated temporarily. You should start exiting once the OPR stops rising.
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OPR is racing to the bottom
So temporarily will not be happening

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Dec 11 2020, 11:45 AM)
I am also monitoring this, saw it on its <RM10 before, but not chasing low...just not sure what would be a better price to enter. Anyone has any insight to share on this, hehe...
Thank you very much!
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It's a bellwether for the economy, with the way things are now, be prepared to go LONG whatever price you buy at. Out look is not good, with factories down, less power consumption.
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post Dec 11 2020, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 11 2020, 02:12 PM)
If you have 4 lot, then give you extra 1 lot.

After ex-bonus, the opening price for next day will be adjusted accordingly.
Eg. if close at Rm22.00, ex-bonus 1: 4.
The next day opening reference price will be Rm22 x 4 / 5
= RM17.60.
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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/publ...e?type=malaysia

It's a 4 bonus shares to 1 share held, no?
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post Dec 11 2020, 03:17 PM

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Share market no rally?
We bina rally.
What are market makers for?

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