QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 20 2021, 11:41 PM)
shot to the moon or rest to breath first?STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
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Feb 20 2021, 11:54 PM
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Feb 21 2021, 02:13 AM
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Feb 22 2021, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Feb 22 2021, 01:01 AM) I did see and hear many people saying something is coming in 2h2021, can share with me what is that do you see that is coming? I can understand these talk spreading last year when there was no vaccine but now with the vaccine already here you still see something bad happening???? hello. Sovereign bond crisis doesn't involve Covid-19.Got vaccine or no vaccine is still the same ya. |
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Feb 22 2021, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 22 2021, 10:50 AM) I getting quite demotivated with our Bursa, felt like I should channel most investment back to ETFs, less stress and sustainable returns, lol this is a stage barrier that everyone has to go through. Many can't cross over.if you can get over it, you will be successful. good luck. |
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Feb 22 2021, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 22 2021, 11:12 AM) I did tell myself that...but also doubting if it's a fine line between being stubborn (refuse to face the fact and numbers), or being convinced with our beliefs regardless of this 'temporary' situation and holding on, riding it through. what stock you want to cut?Over weekend, I gave it some thoughts. Cut loss for the deep reds, and move on. Way forward, will remain flexible with Bursa...maybe will treat it as hit and run for now, if there's anything good. |
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Feb 22 2021, 12:06 PM
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Feb 22 2021, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Feb 22 2021, 12:23 PM) Anyone still trapped with SCIB? My average cost RM2.25. Guilty of chasing high. Thinking should I cut loss ๐ค it will test weak support at 1.65-1.75 range.immediate resistance at 2.10-2.17 range. current price is at neither here or there. QUOTE(Anthem 2 @ Feb 22 2021, 12:24 PM) Am taking a snapshot of this and will return in due time to comment. This whole episode is a very interesting case study with huge dynamics at play if you care to take a very high level view of it all. which episode? TG or BH? |
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Feb 22 2021, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 22 2021, 12:40 PM) If you're talking about stocks, then I'm looking at bringing them to a more stable sector for long term hold, or take another stab at hype sector, lol...haven't decided yet as of now. if you haven't decide what to do with the money from cut loss, then no point to cut loss now, especially it's due for rebound soon as it's currently oversold.If you mean besides stocks, then I'm looking at ETFs. Also putting in some to StashAway for long term. Recovery will be longgg for me, haha you need to find opportunity first then cut loss. And if you want to cut loss, you can cut when it rebound. if not after cut loss now, if the stock rebound then you are stuck in the middle of nowhere. my 2 cents. chocomatte liked this post
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Feb 22 2021, 01:04 PM
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Feb 22 2021, 04:25 PM
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Feb 22 2021, 05:41 PM
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Feb 22 2021, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 22 2021, 06:52 PM) Potential upside is about 20% to 30%. chart wise the smart money have release all their stocks on hand. Good profit YOY, declaration of dividend payment and bonus issue. The fundamental is good. I am not sure why there is heavy selling today. It went from +4% in the morning to -10% after its QR was released today. Everything priced in already? QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 22 2021, 08:01 PM) now, bursa ban on IDSS, no PDT extended to Aug29... but RSS, PSS continues, i suppose: hahaha. we are guessing about the implementation of IDSS in my group, and the guess is spot on!https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/susp...ded-aug-29-2021 this Muhyiddin. Using stock market for politicking again. |
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Feb 22 2021, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(Reyeskb @ Feb 22 2021, 08:25 PM) @AVFAN, thanks for the info. A bit worrying now since the % of net short for TG has been reducing but the share price still dropping. Means shorties are winning right now... what's the time horizon of holding on TG? If you intend to trade, your opportunity might be gone in the near future. If you intend to invest, you should be excited by now.if you don't really need urgently to use the money, don't need to worry if you have any friends that were TG shareholders and very supportive, you can try to observe when they mostly turned to bearish, you can know it's almost the bottom already. QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 22 2021, 08:25 PM) I am always wrong. Good luck. QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 22 2021, 09:33 PM) the rss shorts today for TG was 2.63mil shares. SBB is not catalyst so don't expect it to push the price up.https://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/missftp/..._2021-02-22.pdf despite SBB 10mil shares, price declined. that means it's not only the shorts but some other sellers too... who, i have no idea... maybe blackrock, vanguard... local funds, retailers? it's not looking good at this time but i will wait to see QR results and guidance on march 9. if profits and ASP are still rising, the potential remains. these shorts are now in the money for TG, spmx and kossan. but not harta yet.... can expect more shorting on harta. just be patience and ride it out. Let those hands to carry out their plans until it complete. after they get what they want, then we will get what we want. twilight_fever, Ahkwang, and 3 others liked this post
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Feb 23 2021, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 23 2021, 12:36 AM) bolded... true enough! I don't think glove ASP is going to continue going up next month. Maybe maintain for few months and then gradually decline. Pricing are always ahead 6 - 12 months. Those are already priced in, but whether is it priced in the panic selling that cause it way undervalued, it will entirely depend on your own research.i am patient... so far, all recent QRs show they are still holding or rising. For glove sector, we need to look beyond Covid-19. What is the profit will be like beyond Covid-19. How will the additional capacity help cushion the ASP declination. Is the current price undervalued when fast forward to beyond Covid-19? This is the question we need to ask ourselves, depending on our holding time horizon. If you have a finding/answer that you are satisfied and convinced with, anything else about Covid-19 cases declining, vaccines, ASP dropping, factory closure, etc are noises. I do think there are two catalysts in the future that will make the sector hot and sexy again for trading, but those are bonus factor. We need to make sure we are well secured and not depending on bonus factor to decide profit/losses. my 2 cents. |
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Feb 23 2021, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Reyeskb @ Feb 23 2021, 08:05 AM) @skty, I am holding TG since 20-Nov-2020 at price RM7.30 for investment purpose instead of trade. Bad timing as I bought TG just before its covid cases happen. Anyway, will hold it for at least till June this year to get the huge dividend For TG, very conservative calculation, depend on your holding period, need to take the PAT pre-covid multiply with capacity expansion in percentage, get the EPS, multiply with fair PE, at least 25x for TG, and add on the pro-rated NTA over your holding period.Thanks for the encouragement, sifu. if TG giving dividend, then your cost price need to reduce but the NTA also reduce. very simple way and conservative way of calculation without taking into account any risk, catalyst or new business opportunity which you need complex modelling. good luck. QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 23 2021, 08:37 AM) I am not trading TG. I think there still is value in it. Hextar main support 0.995-1.03.For Hextar, I will see whether it will breach the support price of RM1. good luck. |
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Feb 23 2021, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Feb 23 2021, 11:14 AM) QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Feb 23 2021, 12:08 PM) Hand itchy feel like buying Comfort share. Can buy for swing trade ah? strictly applicable only for TRADING:first test to break out from resistance 2.48 failed. although it's currently oversold, I would prefer to wait it break out and successfully retest 2.48-2.64 before I take a chance with it. Let the bear and bull fight. Because you buy now, the earning potential is less because current price is very near to resistance. howyoulikethat liked this post
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Feb 23 2021, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 23 2021, 03:40 PM) QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 23 2021, 04:15 PM) Thanks for your response...yes, I've conceded to the fact that recovery will be unlikely, and going for long term few years horizon as of this point seems to be fuzzy, no matter how strong the fundamentals look like. So, I'm changing approach and decided long term will not be feasible. Sad case. hello.I think I may be cutting my Smax losses in two batches eventually. Thanks for the I saw urgency on your post so I will like to prioritize reply to you first just hoping to help you make a more rational and informed decision instead of a pressured/panic decision. Pls check your inbox. Murasaki322, pinksapphire, and 1 other liked this post
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Feb 23 2021, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 23 2021, 12:44 PM) Lady Luck took pity on me again. My huge gamble in Hextar is paying off. Yesterday I sai lang Hextar in tranches until it was about 50% of my portfolio. good that you sold 2/3 to minimize risk.At lunch time, it rebounded +10%. My unrealised profit is about +6.38%. I sold off 2/3 of my Hextar shares before lunch at RM1.210. Still holding the balance Hextar shares. The unrealised profit managed to cover a substantial part of my losses yesterday. May the good luck for Hextar continues after lunch today and tomorrow. congratz and good luck QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Feb 23 2021, 04:15 PM) I have no advice for you, but I only can say, I'm with you in the same boat. thanks me for what thing? I feel sorry for those at penthouse level. QUOTE(Jack Bauer 525 @ Feb 23 2021, 04:17 PM) all of us have gone through this haha bro. now you have the experience that can help you tremendously in investing journey. i second master @skty recommendations sell at oversold position? the more you see the more emotionally swayed by it switch off .. take a chill pill decision still yours ultimately good luck. Jack Bauer 525 liked this post
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Feb 24 2021, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Feb 24 2021, 03:09 AM) I have been busy buying TG and Smax past few days. Very very happy with my recent purchases. While ppl are chasing after tech stocks or penny goreng stocks, I prefer to invest in glove counters. Why? Many reasons, too lazy to elaborate plus may not be appreciated by most. So will just say " hold instead of cut loss, add if you still have capital". good luck Looks like the shorties never learned their mistake. It happen again at this price range. QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Feb 24 2021, 10:22 AM) You helped me reconsider my trading buy on Comfort. I didnt lose money bcoz of that. glad for any help to you. QUOTE(jianwei90 @ Feb 24 2021, 10:40 AM) hi, do you mind sharing your view on glove stock as i feel like entering a bit as I still believe it is oversold.. which you want to enter?Don't want to go into too detail in the public. The price currently is in capitulation stage. And this is the second final stage in a cycle. What we want to prevent in stock market is to be overly optimistic and overly pessimistic. Current market stage is overly pessimistic. And this is the stage where value investing can be done. |
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Feb 24 2021, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(jianwei90 @ Feb 24 2021, 11:42 AM) i would prefer to enter top glove.. at least the boss is there to support the price if the price drops too drastically.. you are averaging down or first time wanna masuk?QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 24 2021, 06:50 PM) not just volatile... the politics-mco thingy is simply unattractive to all investors, foreign or domestic. glove today very nice discount! .. mco forever but cases not coming down... today 3500 cases. .. no parliament, no need to discuss anything. .. 5G launch also via SPV = corruption? .. fitch, moody's about to downgrade country rating. .. bloomberg also feel sorry for gloves - good sustainable profits but nobody want, let foreign hedge funds rape them. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/5-billion-ro...-031253000.html in short, bursa, we retailers will be f'ed for a long time... until the greedy politicians get fat and full, leave the arena. dark days may get darker before they get bright. |
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