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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - BELIEVE! V2, SOU 3 - 2 LIV

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post Mar 21 2016, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(genjo @ Mar 21 2016, 07:09 PM)
Mario Gotze first big signing ?

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post Mar 21 2016, 09:01 PM

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Somehow i'm glad that people has finally realize how bad skrtel is.. Some might say he just got back from injury, but this is Skrtel that i know since the last 3/4 seasons. Error prones worst than Sakho. Next season maybe we will see Matip+Gomez partnership..
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post Mar 21 2016, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Mar 21 2016, 05:08 PM)
Cant agree more. A team that cant protect a 2 gol lead and see it through the end is NOT a top team.

But i wouldnt sell him yet. He is just having a bad patch.
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The team has been like that for the past 3 season, may be lack of proper defensive coaching for too long time already that deep rooted in players mind.

The main problem for this team,

1. Scoring goals, sometimes should just shoot instead of pass, and nobody apart from Sturridge and Coutinho have a shooting boot. If both of them didn't score, nobody else.
Midfielders hardly score many for the entire season, CB also lack of goals through set piece/corner through header.

There were plenty of chance created in the first half against Soton, as well as match against MU in Europa league first leg, but failed to score many, aka conversion rate is still one of lowest in the league.

2. Can't defend proper and professionally see out the game.
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post Mar 21 2016, 09:51 PM

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Under rodgers, liverpool never went from leading 2 - 0 to beaten 2 - 3. #BringBackRodgers #RespectMyRodgers
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QUOTE(imin @ Mar 21 2016, 09:51 PM)
Under rodgers, liverpool never went from leading 2 - 0 to beaten 2 - 3. #BringBackRodgers #RespectMyRodgers
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ya, rodgers just gets thrashed 6-1 by stoke.
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post Mar 21 2016, 11:13 PM

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No rest for remaining LFC player that didn't get international call up as Klopp bring them to training camp. ohmy.gif

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...ecover-11071226
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post Mar 22 2016, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 21 2016, 09:26 PM)
The team has been like that for the past 3 season, may be lack of proper defensive coaching for too long time already that deep rooted in players mind.

The main problem for this team,

1. Scoring goals, sometimes should just shoot instead of pass, and nobody apart from Sturridge and Coutinho have a shooting boot. If both of them didn't score, nobody else.
Midfielders hardly score many for the entire season, CB also lack of goals through set piece/corner through header.

There were plenty of chance created in the first half against Soton, as well as match against MU in Europa league first leg, but failed to score many, aka conversion rate is still one of lowest in the league. 

2. Can't defend proper and professionally see out the game.
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Still, plenty people here slagging Studge for not passing to Allen. A striker will always look to score first. That is a striker's mindset.

What if Studge did pass to Allen and then Allen missed the open goal? Will you guys slagging off Studge again for not shooting instead of passing?

Some people here just like to find a scapegoat whenever they can.
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post Mar 22 2016, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Mar 21 2016, 09:01 PM)
Somehow i'm glad that people has finally realize how bad skrtel is.. Some might say he just got back from injury, but this is Skrtel that i know since the last 3/4 seasons. Error prones worst than Sakho. Next season maybe we will see Matip+Gomez partnership..
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Skrtel had been pulling opponent shirts since forever, and finally his luck runs out. laugh.gif

QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Mar 22 2016, 07:44 AM)
Still, plenty people here slagging Studge for not passing to Allen. A striker will always look to score first. That is a striker's mindset.

What if Studge did pass to Allen and then Allen missed the open goal? Will you guys slagging off Studge again for not shooting instead of passing?

Some people here just like to find a scapegoat whenever they can.
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I was the one slagging Sturridge on that chance. I am not happy because he choose to shoot with his weaker foot, and Allen clearly had a better chance with nobody guarding him. And yes if Allen missed the chance, something else will come out. But that was just an clear example. Sturridge had been too selfish, striker will always look at the goal first, but sometimes assist is their role too, he need to balance that.

p,s I didn't even blame him for the lost or make him a scapegoat, its just I think he need to be less selfish. That's it.
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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Mar 21 2016, 11:13 PM)
No rest for remaining LFC player that didn't get international call up as Klopp bring them to training camp.  ohmy.gif

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...ecover-11071226
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I laugh.gif at this comment down there.

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Some of them can stay there.
Mignolet should drive the speedboat with the inflatable banana. The only thing that wouldn't slip through his legs.
Seriously, leave then there, and none of the "Kolo,  Kolo, Kolo" nonsense either.
More like "Go Joe, go Joe go Joe, take Skrtle too bro, and the keeper to Joe"

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Mar 21 2016, 09:01 PM)
Somehow i'm glad that people has finally realize how bad skrtel is.. Some might say he just got back from injury, but this is Skrtel that i know since the last 3/4 seasons. Error prones worst than Sakho. Next season maybe we will see Matip+Gomez partnership..
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Did you scream when he scored

a) against Arsenal 2 seasons back with a header to rout them 4 goals at Anfield ????

b) against MancsC away this season with a thumper ?????
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post Mar 22 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 21 2016, 09:26 PM)
The team has been like that for the past 3 season, may be lack of proper defensive coaching for too long time already that deep rooted in players mind.

The main problem for this team,

1. Scoring goals, sometimes should just shoot instead of pass, and nobody apart from Sturridge and Coutinho have a shooting boot. If both of them didn't score, nobody else.
Firminho biggrin.gif

But you are right that midfielders are goal shy....has been for years......we go for hard working ones, rather than flamboyant and goal getters.

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Mar 22 2016, 09:01 AM
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post Mar 22 2016, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 21 2016, 09:26 PM)
The team has been like that for the past 3 season, may be lack of proper defensive coaching for too long time already that deep rooted in players mind.

The main problem for this team,

1. Scoring goals, sometimes should just shoot instead of pass, and nobody apart from Sturridge and Coutinho have a shooting boot. If both of them didn't score, nobody else.
Midfielders hardly score many for the entire season, CB also lack of goals through set piece/corner through header.

There were plenty of chance created in the first half against Soton, as well as match against MU in Europa league first leg, but failed to score many, aka conversion rate is still one of lowest in the league. 

2. Can't defend proper and professionally see out the game.
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1) firmino, origi and ings (before injured). br try to fixed no scoring midfielder part but failed incredibly. hopefully klopp can fix this, and gk issue, defending issue, crossing issue.

2) defensively we improve a lot compare to br times but set pieces could still be an issue. i will give klopp at least another season to fix this. gk and a reliable lb is the priority here


QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Mar 22 2016, 07:44 AM)
Still, plenty people here slagging Studge for not passing to Allen. A striker will always look to score first. That is a striker's mindset.

What if Studge did pass to Allen and then Allen missed the open goal? Will you guys slagging off Studge again for not shooting instead of passing?

Some people here just like to find a scapegoat whenever they can.
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i'm one of those annoyed by sturridge recent play. do you what is the difference between cr and messi? one is selfish with huge ego while the other share more responsibility with others. both are successful but we all can agree barca team are more harmonious and better. selfish play is always dreadful to watch, this is also why ibe need to change if he want to become better.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 22 2016, 08:58 AM)
Firminho    biggrin.gif

But you are right that midfielders are goal shy....has been for years......we go for hard working ones, rather than flamboyant and goal getters.
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Ya.
Firmino turns into different player under Klopp.
He was also goal shy before Klopp came in.

You need to have fair share of midfielders' goals, as well as CB/LB goals especially during set piece or corner time.
If only 2 striker/front man can score goal, it is very easy for opponent to defence upon.
Hendo, Can need to score more goals.



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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 22 2016, 10:38 AM)
Ya.
Firmino turns into different player under Klopp.
He was also goal shy before Klopp came in.

You need to have fair share of midfielders' goals, as well as CB/LB goals especially during set piece or corner time.
If only 2 striker/front man can score goal, it is very easy for opponent to defence upon.
Hendo, Can need to score more goals.
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That's the reason the rumours with Goetze. he's a natural goal scorer from midfield. However, he is too similar to Coutinho, alto he plays more central.
So how do accommodate such similarities?

Wish we had Gerrard of 10 years ago. biggrin.gif Hard to find power machines who are goal getters as well. Worth their weight in gold.
Just off the head......presently Piogba and Toure comes to mind. Ali deli is developing nicely
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Mar 22 2016, 10:03 AM)

i'm one of those annoyed by sturridge recent play. do you what is the difference between cr and messi? one is selfish with huge ego while the other share more responsibility with others. both are successful but we all can agree barca team are more harmonious and better. selfish play is always dreadful to watch, this is also why ibe need to change if he want to become better.
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Recent play? Sturridge has been like that for ages.

What are CR and Messi got to do with Sturridge? Selfish and ego are two different things; selfish and not passing are another two different things as well.

Did you not celebrate when Sturridge scored the 2nd goal vs Southampton? What if that time he passed back to Origi and Origi failed to score? How will you react?

A striker should always look to score if he thinks he could.

I can say that Sturridge is high on confidence after this goal hence he did not pass to Allen later on. Or you can say he is selfish. It is all about perspective.

If you are annoyed by Sturridge then you can calm your tits down when he scores another goal for us again.

Ibe needs to improve on plenty of stuff before he can become better. His position, movement and decision making.


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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Mar 22 2016, 08:27 AM)
Skrtel had been pulling opponent shirts since forever, and finally his luck runs out.  laugh.gif
I was the one slagging Sturridge on that chance. I am not happy because he choose to shoot with his weaker foot, and Allen clearly had a better chance with nobody guarding him. And yes if Allen missed the chance, something else will come out. But that was just an clear example. Sturridge had been too selfish, striker will always look at the goal first, but sometimes assist is their role too, he need to balance that.

p,s I didn't even blame him for the lost or make him a scapegoat, its just I think he need to be less selfish. That's it.
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He has always been like that for ages. But seeing how clinical he is and seeing how all the other players in our team are so shit in scoring goals, I will always put my bet on Sturridge. I trust Sturridge to score goals for us more than other players right now. We do not have anyone as clinical as him in our team now. He can shoot all he likes as long as not from 20 yards away.
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Mar 22 2016, 01:28 PM)
Recent play? Sturridge has been like that for ages.

What are CR and Messi got to do with Sturridge? Selfish and ego are two different things; selfish and not passing are another two different things as well.

Did you not celebrate when Sturridge scored the 2nd goal vs Southampton? What if that time he passed back to Origi and Origi failed to score? How will you react?

A striker should always look to score if he thinks he could.

I can say that Sturridge is high on confidence after this goal hence he did not pass to Allen later on. Or you can say he is selfish. It is all about perspective.

If you are annoyed by Sturridge then you can calm your tits down when he scores another goal for us again.

Ibe needs to improve on plenty of stuff before he can become better. His position, movement and decision making.
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i know sturridge is like that for ages, my problem is him refusing to change to be a better team player, what is wrong with that? just because sturridge selfish play annoy me, i cant celebrate his goal? are you his fanboy now? by your own words, since every other players are shit compare to sturridge, please dont celebrate if any other players score.

to why im relating sturridge with cr and messi, i want to see a messi, not cr in sturridge.

ps: i celebrate any goals score by any liverpool players (except own goal). your statement of not celebrating a goal is stupid and dumb.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Mar 22 2016, 02:07 PM)
i know sturridge is like that for ages, my problem is him refusing to change to be a better team player, what is wrong with that? just because sturridge selfish play annoy me, i cant celebrate his goal? are you his fanboy now?  by your own words, since every other players are shit compare to sturridge, please dont celebrate if any other players score.

to why im relating sturridge with cr and messi, i want to see a messi, not cr in sturridge.

ps: i celebrate any goals score by any liverpool players (except own goal). your statement of not celebrating a goal is stupid and dumb.
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You should celebrate every moment Sturridge on the pitch, every second. Who knows when he decides to get crocked again
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