You can see the signs already bro.... This road will only lead you to ruin....

Better stop and take a break first bro. Go puasa!

How long did you take to lose 6750? How much was the first buy in? Did you go to atm or cc cash advance?

No reply! I hope he don't Jalan Kereta already...

Bro, if youre reading this, pls stop now and share with us what happened, we can advice you based on experience.

Don't so stubborn then eat fire and gamble everything away.

thanks for your advice

i agreed bro

yup

only roulette
capital 3500
divide 1500, 2000
1500 is ham tam, 350, 700 pet bet
if win, over 1500, then stop, thats for the day,
if lose 1500,
then 2000, to win back 1500, total 3500, then no play for that day.

but that day really no luck...
should go to VIP, not stay at first world.. so regret..
lose 1500
then 2000
then go atm take 3250,
try 3 bet, end up also lose...
ai...

cc, and cash advance, i did it before, not this time..
i still in debts on cc ..

thanks for your advice,
i choose to leave kl few days, if not i will think go back again..
thanks for your advice..
truely thanks..

Good, go and clear your mind first. If you really dont wanna stop gambling, switch to baccarat. The house edge is lower and with the variance, its easier to win.

But best advice to you is still stop gambling. I know what it feels like to be down 400k. Either you make up ur your mind and stop or plan for a do or die mission, bring 40k up to fight a final battle. If win, promise to quit for good, if lose suck it up and quit for good, but need a few years to clear your debt.

Going up each time with 3500-7000 capital will 100% not win you back the 400k, dont go there and grind hoping for a big win or daily winning streak, it will not happen.

There is only one person can win so consistently that is ROPlayer, you can try sincerely ask him for help. Maybe pay him some % to help you gamble.

I offered you two choices, make up your mind.

I managed to win 700k in the span of 4 weeks with 45k starting capital and im sticking to my promise which is to quit for good. Ive investing all the money in CIMB Preferred structured product for a lockdown period of 3 years and i wont have the money to gamble anymore. I even asked advice from ycjoo on the quit gambling meeting.

If you need to talk, call me @ 0103733388

This post has been edited by tntdiablo: Mar 21 2016, 12:57 PM

@vamp1re, can you come in and give our bro here some advice?

wow would like to hear about the 45k win 700k in 4 weeks story??
How much were you betting every hand?

During the start, with 45k capital, I bet minimum RM5k per hand. When I doubled my capital, it became RM8k per hand, then gradually increase to RM10k, RM15K, RM20K until a maximum for RM40K per hand in week 2.

Do not learn, gambling this way can make you win a lot and also can make you lose a lot.

Keep a list of your Win/Lose record, to monitor how much are you away from the standard deviation (Variance). When your Wins are more that you Losses, bet small. When your Losses are more than your Wins, gradually increase your bets.

It doesn't matter which side you buy Banker or Player, in the long run, your number of Wins and Losses should be almost the same(balance) due to the law or probality. You play a game of chance with only 2 outcome, in the end, it will balance. It proven, I play online so I have a Win/Loss report, when I calculate, it really tally up.

In baccarat, in playing 200 hands if you win 100 times you will also lose 100 times. But they will be some variance e.g.
Win 95 times Lose 105 times = Variance 5
Win 110 times Lose 90 time = Variance 10

The aim is not hoping that youll win 180 times or 150 times out of 200 hands. The aim is to lose small when you lose(Lose small bets) and win big when you win(Win big bets).

You have a long way to go my friend, when you are there, youll just wished that you are never there. In this journey, there are times that youll be in a very deep low valley and sometimes youll be on the high valley. In the end, its all up to you if you wanna quit in the low valley or the high valley. Trust me, the stress is not worth it. In the end everyone is losing overall. The only way to be a winner, bet one time, win that one time and quit forever never touch gambling again, then youre truly a winner.

This post has been edited by tntdiablo: Mar 21 2016, 01:44 PM

I wonder where are all the old time GGC pioneers? Landuchai? WhiteWing? MANUBOY? MANULIFE? lockdown?

silent readers club

All quite gambling already?

Can they come out and advice the newbies here if they should start gambling? Come out and let us know if overall youre winning or losing.

This post has been edited by tntdiablo: Mar 21 2016, 02:07 PM

Thanks for the story bro. Don't know why my baccarats timing extremely bad. When i choose to sit out rounds and observer that is when all my choices will come out. But once i choose to enter the game, always lose. So frustrating.

Where are you from btw?

Penang. I try to go up to hill every 1 or 2 months.

my suck-up part is start 10% time >bet small win, mid-run 30% >bet big lost.... end up 60% of remaining time bet big big big just to chase a breakeven..

10hours spent chasing to break even only if lucky. if no luck, leave only till empty to last dollar.

good thing is I bring only cash (max 20K per visit). no atm/CC card.

Baccarat basic strategy- aim for 2nd liner & 3rd liner
capital management- devide ur capital into 10 units (EG. 10K than each bet will be 1k.) double up or not is up to individual( lose flat bet, win only double up is usually what i do) . Target 5 hand win and cabut

thanks for sharing the insight, when it comes to variance, how do you add upon the bet size as the variance goes up/low accordingly?

where is the variance level that you tell yourself this is it?

Hi bro, there is no exact variance level, if I can tell I'm richer than Bijan already. Just that when my Losses are more than my Wins, ill gradually increase my bets when I'm winning 2 hands straight. But there will be unlucky days too, e.g. heavy swings towards the losing side, that's when ill just flat bet to ride it out.

I've experienced 12 LOSE vs 0 Win straight before, that's why its very important to have backup capital to fight back. After some ding and dongs. Managed to win back capital plus 15K. End of the session the results are 53 Lose vs 48 Wins. Remember not to hit gamblers ruin.

This post has been edited by tntdiablo: Mar 21 2016, 03:33 PM

Looking for the right table and shoe is a deep knowledge. every shoe will have a time that coming for good trend( EG , ding dong, dragon, ) looking for dragon is the safest way. once u manage to win 1 hand over the dragon trend than just follow until it putus. Dun affraid of long dragon. want to win back 300-500k is not a difficult task . disipline is a must . if lose also must leave no matter what. ( EG , 5 different table u go follow dragon also putus, than that day confirm u very bad luck and pls stop and run fast fast. ) stubborn and degil will only cr8 more casualties. if u play big, i recommend to play in maxim gt insurance to cover . point 6 insurance 1 pay 3 if lose, point 7 ,1 pay 4, point 8, 1 pay 7,
each hand that have standing point 6 above is consider is a "must win bet" and sometimes buy some insurance to cover is a good idea. overall we just win less but we will not "makan Api" if kena makan on these strong point.
Good luck bro