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SUSlowya
post Mar 1 2016, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(junelong @ Feb 17 2016, 02:19 PM)
Good day, eveone,
5.45am start journey, 7.30am reach uphill.
Today really not my day at all.
By 8am, lost all the 3K, in straight 12 games. cry.gif
Ask for help, top up another 3K for capital.
Sigh, continue whack by genting, another 2K gone.
Finally, rebound come. But, up and down.
Looks today not my day at all.
10.30am, admit loss of 2K & ciao.
12pm, reach kl sad.gif
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Looks like you have given back all your past profits, and as the saying goes, go uphill too often will meet tiger.
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post Mar 21 2016, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(tntdiablo @ Mar 21 2016, 01:29 PM)
During the start, with 45k capital, I bet minimum RM5k per hand. When I doubled my capital, it became RM8k per hand, then gradually increase to RM10k, RM15K, RM20K until a maximum for RM40K per hand in week 2.

Do not learn, gambling this way can make you win a lot and also can make you lose a lot.

Keep a list of your Win/Lose record, to monitor how much are you away from the standard deviation (Variance). When your Wins are more that you Losses, bet small. When your Losses are more than your Wins, gradually increase your bets.

It doesn't matter which side you buy Banker or Player, in the long run, your number of Wins and Losses should be almost the same(balance) due to the law or probality. You play a game of chance with only 2 outcome, in the end, it will balance. It proven, I play online so I have a Win/Loss report, when I calculate, it really tally up.

In baccarat, in playing 200 hands if you win 100 times you will also lose 100 times. But they will be some variance e.g.
Win 95 times Lose 105 times = Variance 5
Win 110 times Lose 90 time = Variance 10

The aim is not hoping that youll win 180 times or 150 times out of 200 hands. The aim is to lose small when you lose(Lose small bets) and win big when you win(Win big bets).

You have a long way to go my friend, when you are there, youll just wished that you are never there. In this journey, there are times that youll be in a very deep low valley and sometimes youll be on the high valley. In the end, its all up to you if you wanna quit in the low valley or the high valley. Trust me, the stress is not worth it. In the end everyone is losing overall. The only way to be a winner, bet one time, win that one time and quit forever never touch gambling again, then youre truly a winner.
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thanks for sharing the insight, when it comes to variance, how do you add upon the bet size as the variance goes up/low accordingly?

where is the variance level that you tell yourself this is it?
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post Mar 21 2016, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(tntdiablo @ Mar 21 2016, 03:22 PM)
Hi bro, there is no exact variance level, if I can tell I'm richer than Bijan already. Just that when my Losses are more than my Wins, ill gradually increase my bets when I'm winning 2 hands straight. But there will be unlucky days too, e.g. heavy swings towards the losing side, that's when ill just flat bet to ride it out.

I've experienced 12 LOSE vs 0 Win straight before, that's why its very important to have backup capital to fight back. After some ding and dongs. Managed to win back capital plus 15K. End of the session the results are 53 Lose vs 48 Wins. Remember not to hit gamblers ruin.
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when u mentioned gamblers ruin, this comes to my mind..

there is a calculator which everyone in gambling and trading should use, i share here

http://www.automated-trading-system.com/re...lculation-tool/

interestingly, if your win/lose ratio is 1 or less, with 50% chance of winning, your risk of ruin is 100% (almost certain to burn all capital),

hence the only variable is to change bet size accordingly, however that doesn't change much of the outcome actually because you cannot predict the outcome.

so that perhaps could explain why most people fail in gambling.
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post Mar 23 2016, 12:38 PM

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is it possible for someone to file gambling as income?

if yes, then is it call money laundering in the lack of auditing?

what category of such earning should it be?
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post May 24 2016, 01:06 PM

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martingale could work in fully random environment, to achieve such case, one can place bet from 1 table to another, starting with smallest allowed bet say RM10 bet Red each time, each lose double in next table, each win stays same table.

try this and report back hows that work out for ya? Calculate max drawdown to allow for table maximum to bring the capital, very hard to lose it all, but win half capital ciao. report back hows that work out for ya?
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post May 24 2016, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(gambleking @ May 24 2016, 01:43 PM)
Martingale works only short terms basic. However, if you bet long enough, you will experience a losing streak regardless changing of table or betting way (chop dragon or follow dragon or totally random). Long term doesn't mean it has to be very long time in a day". You can just bet 5 minutes per day and with target profit merely Rm 100 "consistently" which in the end you will still lose. For example, with this strategy it might make you a winner for 364 days. But one big loss in the 365th days with this strategy can easily swipe all your profit in the past 364 days. Some people might experience the losing streak much earlier than that and even lose more. Don't use this strategy because it is just merely gambler's fallacy.
I have seen a people have 16 losing streaks with 5 totally different table with only flat bet. He just bet randomly according to his own instinct. Imagine if you use martingale with this losing streaks how much will you lose?  And good news is I bet totally opposite from that guy after 3th round and you can guess how much I win? LOL. One of my favorite strategies is to bet based on "people" and not "trend" and it works most of the time. PM me if you interested to know more about this strategy.
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the key here is the bet size along the way, which is what u need to adjust to calculate precisely.

what u do i guess is to identify a loser and bet opposite. ok but not very scientific.
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post Jun 23 2016, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(lowdensity @ Jun 11 2016, 04:46 PM)
too many "winning" formula were being presented.
Does anyone have method to lower the unforeseen situation strategically?

I understand that the best is not to game it.
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lower the unforeseen situation strategically?

u want to achieve randomness, just change table base on the table outcome.
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post Jun 24 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(wkc @ Jun 24 2016, 11:20 AM)
Why tummy explode?
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gamble half way can give birth later in genting got bonus i guess lol.
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post Aug 15 2016, 04:37 PM

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who wants to quit gambling like the way one quit ciggi to use ecig can learn forex, which is the world biggest casino ever built.
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post Aug 25 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(lowdensity @ Aug 24 2016, 11:35 PM)
addicted to bet .... not to win?
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roller coaster will help you save plenty of money and yet give u way much more excitement.

it's the ultimate cure for gambling, and the access is not far from the casino.

Next time u cannot think well or depress or anything like that...

RIDE A ROLLER COASTER or alike.
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post Nov 11 2016, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(perfect works08 @ Nov 4 2016, 10:49 PM)
it just keep posting awesome video and it seem very real.
ok i will listen to all big brother here and look for others tool or software.

if any way is possible to win and please let me know or pm me, so we can become a team example Blackjack 21 that movie. LOL
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there is a few ways to win the casino, but it would be considered as cheating by the casino and u wont dare to even try, so stop thinking about it and get back to work.
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post Nov 30 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(decembergod @ Nov 24 2016, 04:55 PM)
Guys, come discuss tis news
The link

Now my question is....how the casino staff know he pick up the wallet from toilet cubicle ? inside casino toilet also have CCTV ?  blink.gif

Like tat we pee pooh the security guy can see loh...sure boh ?  hmm.gif
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firstly you have to understand casino surveillance system is much more high tech than other places, possibly with real time facial recognition features.

The owner goes to security control to report, all is required is to playback 5 persons that comes out from toilet after the owner, and track each of them easily by their real time location.

It's not about the truth, its about the evidence pointing at you and the profile that you have projected.
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post Jan 9 2017, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(dontlosecapital @ Jan 9 2017, 12:33 PM)
choose the best fengshui date suit me to win limbobo
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lets see,
will update win or lose...
long time no go,
2 hours bet,
lets see can win how much smile.gif

all the best bro
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itchy again..

place RM88,888 bet at table 8 for number 8 on the 8th day of CNY at 8am and 8pm.

depending the outcome, proceed to 8th floor and...


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post Jan 31 2017, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(mlpk @ Jan 31 2017, 11:51 AM)
There are few type of gamblers

1) regular/daily which can win $$ daily win amt set perday
2) not regular gamblers which lust/greedy to win more money per trip
3) trying to be god of gambler or luck
4) hit and run gambler not greedy

alot of gambler win little dont want to run still continue to gamble until lose or greedy for more

That why people always say lose. those with experience or regular gamblers will always win daily with their experience.

Take gambling as a business. eg daily win 1k-2k with 10k capital or 1k win few hundred daily  or 100k win 10k is it difficult.

watch carefully what type of pattern like to gamble. just gamble few round depend on how much people want to win.

Alot of daily gambler with discipline daily win few hundred is better than working or working at overseas. with free gp/food/room daily with daily expenses cover

if a person have the skill to win daily for years hit n run, the person is definately be rich. master the gambling skill and will feed for life

how much a person work perday? just calculate. including yr overhead perday eg petrol,toll, makan etc
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before talk about 'skills', win/lose ratio, and projections etc, one needs to answer THE very basic questions first...

what is 'your edge' that is > 'house edge'?

is it card counting technique? spiritual help? mathematical strategy? risk management? insider help?

please define your edge before you go to the tiger cave.

This post has been edited by lowya: Jan 31 2017, 04:50 PM
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post Jan 31 2017, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(mlpk @ Jan 31 2017, 09:20 PM)
experience gambler in seeing things compare to beginner gamblers.
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you have no edge of winning because you cannot answer a simple question.
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post Feb 1 2017, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(mlpk @ Jan 31 2017, 11:25 PM)
friend no want would tell u the edge. findout yrself.
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European roulette house edge is 2.7%, average payout 97.3%.

and i just mentioned a few examples of players edge, you were not even reading.

as someone pointed out, you came out of no where sharing lengthy of your experiences (without mentioning a single edge), are you trying to recruit some members for your 'casino advisory services' by over-em-phasing your experiences?


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post Feb 1 2017, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(gambleking @ Feb 1 2017, 07:45 AM)

1. I only bet in the selected casinos mostly online casino which give me some edge over the house (genting is not in the list). So gambling for me is another business not gambling itself.

3. I mastered perfect money management skills which mean I am taking calculated risk for my investment.

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Thanks for sharing, as a semi professional, do you mind to elaborate on these 2 points for the benefits of others?

On top of that, i would like to ask your view on what decides for you to stop the game? is it a pre-determined maximum drawdown or upon reaching your expected 20-30% ROI? TIA.
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post Feb 16 2017, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Feb 16 2017, 01:04 PM)
it was my first time playing roulette with capital of RM200..
it's min. bet was RM20.

Each round, I put 1 chip only, buying 4 numbers returning 8x payout.

I won a lot of 8x, a few 17x and a x35 resulting in RM1,000 profit.

Now I am a quite addicted to go Genting to win big again.. Help!

I have been telling myself there are genie allow me to win easily just to attract me go gambling often..
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your Expected Value = (4/37)*8 - (33/37)*1 = 0.8649 - 0.8979 = -0.033 for each ringgit bet on European roulette

yeah, you were extremely lucky if you only played few number of games.

and if you try play more than 200 games, i doubt you can still get the same 'genie' doing the magic.


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post Feb 27 2017, 11:16 AM

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these are the parameter to win/lose:

table min, max bet, payout ratio, position sizing, money management.
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post Feb 27 2017, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(liartwo @ Feb 27 2017, 03:45 PM)
Lost 15k to online casino last week..sucks big time.Now thinking want to bet again to win back losses..  sad.gif
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would you mind describe a bit what did you play and how did you play it?

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