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michael9413
post Jun 14 2016, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(JayceOoi @ Jun 14 2016, 05:40 PM)
32GB is a BIG NO then. Need to have 64GB at least.
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I agree...

QUOTE(briantwj @ Jun 14 2016, 09:21 PM)
Mi5, 3gb ram, 32gb internal selling at RM1549.

While Oneplus Two, 4gb ram, 64gb internal selling at RM1599.

Altho oneplus is using the S810 chipset, but I think it's still a very capable one if u don't do high end game much. Good headache for those who wants a dual sim flagship at around 1.5k price. thumbup.gif
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Well depends what you want... but I would go to One plus...
mi5 still very behind in terms of actual usage speed test shown in YouTube...
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post Jun 14 2016, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 14 2016, 10:21 PM)
don't be ridiculous. i hate people like you who ask people to jump into fire.

How the hell SD810 is still ok when it is same performance as RN3 SD650???

Please go back to the hole that you came from.  vmad.gif
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Go see actual speed test on a few YouTubers test... sorry benchmark doesn't means everything....
N6P with SD810 is faster than Mi5 3GB ram version... cos the stock rom can keep more apps running...
In actual usage Mi5 SD820 doesn't even close to others flagship... it is only comparable with Sony Z5 at speed...

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 14 2016, 10:51 PM)
Normally synthetic benchmark is always the truth.
Youtube showing SD810 faster than Mi5 probably due to MI5 not optimised yet. Also, you know we all can install
AOSP on Mi5.

So those Youtube video just meh!  cool2.gif
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Watch yourself...
I duno why ppl argue when a lot ppl shows the speed test online dy...
The ability to keep the apps running behind is poor for Mi5...
Accept it... a few SD810 flagships will beat this fellow if you do speed test like this kind...
MIUI is poor in ram management and bloated UI... I used that before...
Same as TouchWiz which ppl tell me very good dy... but if you run these kind of speed test for HTC10 with S7 or S7e why HTC wins... cos the UI hogging the rams... which makes it can't hold much apps running at background...
Sorry I don believe on synthetic benchmark much... cos it depends on the system also not only chipset...
I skipped Samsung quite a few years, now I add in MIUI also cos the system is bloated...
I might try Mi Max with 4GB ram for entertainment purposes... because of 6" screen and it's price...

Btw if u buy dy and flashed AOSP inside let me know... maybe you can the speed test and let us see... remember to tweak your kernel leave it in stock...




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post Jun 15 2016, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Jun 15 2016, 12:09 AM)
if miui and touchwiz has bloated ui what phone are you using currently or suggesting to use?
i may consider flashing the a xiaomi or samsung to a different stable rom, but that usually means no fingerprint scanner and poor camera?
what you think of huawei/honor ui?
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I'm currently using Nexus my daily driver and Samsung J5 by my company...
Why poor camera? That depends what you peeking at the photo...
Some phone's camera have decent quality also...
I don have any Huawei phone except the Nexus on my hand now... but most of my fren using Honor brand says system is better than Lenovo and Samsung... although some of them might not use flagship Samsung but midrange only...
I'm not trying to suggest any brands but trying to highlight that MIUI isn't that perfect as some ppl claimed... yes @Andrew might sayhaters like me brag about ram management... but have you face waze or Googlemaps being shut off while you received a call and then u do something... then u have to stop there and restart the apps, that is frustrating when you are nearby the area and you need to turn...
That's my experience with my x-MIUI phone and x-Samsung also...
My current Samsung J5 with 1.5G ram means I always have apps restarted... no choice company give use...
for MIUI n TouchWiz I recommend to get 4GB ram...
I do flashing last time but nothing more stable than stock ROMs...
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 15 2016, 08:17 AM)
Not true. Anything with SD650 and above will not lag. Redmi Note 3 is not flagship but is comparable in speed or probably faster than Samsung Galaxy Note 5 speed.

Anything with Samsung is slow and bad. Except latest Samsung flagship.  laugh.gif
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Well it depends again with the full integration package...
But i agrees with you that with SD650 and 3GB ram you are pretty having a smooth system...

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 15 2016, 08:21 AM)
True. The S7 is a beast. However at that pruce, I don't think mi5 can sell as much as mi3 in malaysia.
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Definitely not true... there are plenty of Mi fans in Malaysia and they always say 1.5k can get SD820 why pay more.. but for me the true value of others is with the full system... which XiaoMi did poorly with its base phone of every model...

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 15 2016, 08:25 AM)
No one claimed MIUI is perfect. However we can safely say that MIUI is way better than a lot of OS out there
in terms of control. I don't even need to root my phone due to that.
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That is pretty TRUE... damn... I miss some control but I still prefer better RAM management and overall less bloatware...

QUOTE(metaloid @ Jun 15 2016, 08:45 AM)
Unless u want smaller size, i don't see any reason to pick this over Oneplus 3 if u want 64/128gb.
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I wont but base model Mi5... but One Plus Three specs is definitely more attractive if it is packaged below RM2k...

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post Jun 15 2016, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Jun 15 2016, 09:35 AM)
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based on personal exp, for optimization huawei (on my p8)>custom rom TW based (note 2/s3)>zenfone ui (zenfone max/ zen2>miui (mi3/Redmi Note 3>stock touchwiz (note 2/s3)

2-3gb ram should be sufficient as I hardly encounter the prob on using waze+phone call/multitask coming with my note 2/zenfone max/zen 2

1.5gb cukup2 makan imo
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For u ok... but I have this situation most of the time...
My Samsung J5 can't handle that.. so at the end I use my Nexus to do navigation n taking down notes...
I'm doing sales... so I need to swap app while taking down things otg...
But really Huawei isnt that bad cos my fren says his phone is pretty ok but he need something bigger than 8GB of ROM which is on his phone now... I think he is on 4X....

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Jun 16 2016, 08:06 AM)
Maybe you are same user type like my wife, laugh.gif multitask all the way.

She using her Redmi Note 3 with multitask mode+with her online sales/purchase via multiple social media, it makes her 4k battery life like stock note 2 battery..

While she hardly encounter problem with older her Samsung Note 2+zerolemon 10k battery (custom rom+tak banyak apps install)
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haha... well errr... P70 or P780 last time is good for a day with me... max 1.5 days...
my N6P now is about 8~10 hrs inside my pocket without charging it...
my SOT always wandering about 3hrs+, before the batter dropped to 20% left...

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To be frank less than 5.3" is a nice size for our palm... I do agree on that... Was waiting for this or HTC10 before got my hand on the Nexus, which is big n bulky...
About their starve marketing strategy... I do not surprise of that... I do interest of their product cos of pricing, but quality isn't as good as others... Same as Redmi Note 3 pro 2G/16GB is available anytime but 3G/32GB always out of stock very fast... and also their quality which ppl complaint about the gaps of rear cover vs FP for RN3...
So those whom are interested of the top range always buy from Scalpers, because of availability issues...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 22 2016, 08:05 AM)
Forget Thorus. Jacked up the price. vmad.gif mad.gif bangwall.gif
Go for import set. Save yourself rm150-200
If they keep increasing in price, their products not interesting anymore. laugh.gif
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They already did... Haha... Wait n see
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post Jun 22 2016, 09:27 AM

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Really? Errr.... In terms of RMB I think still increase...
The quality also not as good as previous phone already...
Structure is week...
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Well there are ppl which is not satisfy with something isn't it... you can't expect all ppl to agree with XiaoMi hunger strategy for their top range model....
I also feel boring, announce to whole world they have a very good too range flagship phone but not available... u still support them, u will only make them stronger...
And further more, a lot ppl thought that upgrade MIUI version equal to system major updates.... haha... still got ppl argue MIUI v7 is Lollipop and MIUI v8 is Marshmallow.. so happy if it is so...

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 22 2016, 10:04 PM)
Don't worry. Huawei is catching up to tjhem so is Asus. Only a matter of time before xiaomi needs to rethink their strategy.
What's the big deal with phone updates? I am on android 4.4.4 on my xperia zr and my phone is lag-free most of the time. An update was issued but I refuse to update. Better don't update too much or it might lag like iphones. Every version of update applied to the iphone will slow it down. SO what difference does it make LoLollipop/Marshmallow. A phone is just a phone. Not like a PC. Heck even with PC, I am not upgrading to Win 10. So for me updates not that important. biggrin.gif
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Sony, basically their UI quite lite and so far my wife experience is ok... apple? I dunno my iPad mini 2 retina still lag free... and I have a core2duo laptop which on Win10 pro also quite smooth... android old version have security concerns... something which we might not know... and I do have concerns on updates... it seems u don mind to have older version which has security concerns loopholes... so don upgrade your device lo..
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 23 2016, 07:04 AM)
Ipad mini 2 still new. Try like those people who have iphone 4, 4s who update past ios7, lag worse than android. For apple, it's already proven (in the news) that each update say 9>10 will slow down the device a little at a time. This is apple's strategy so that you will be forced to buy a new device after their official update support ended. Imagine if one never update the ios. The phone/ipad won't lag and apple won't be able to sell any new devices unless we are talking about isheep who buy apple devices every year.
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Well logically speaking, if you never update, the phone will still be in pristine mode. She uses the phone for whatsapp, take picture, call and sms only.
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OMG... Do you expect S3 working fine as new? Mi3? Haha... It is will ok with those basic usage, u load it with games n try multitasking u will laugh... Anything after 2 yrs is old device... for me at least...
No point to argue with you... My point is same as some others... Security reason... To upgraded or not is your personal reference..

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No need to try on Mi3... Official rom for Lollipop will not come out, although they promise 1.5yrs ago but it nv went thru... excuses has been given... And Marshmallow is otw but still in developer rom, duno when...
Give up on MIUI since they have more interest to develope their own UI or skins rather than making better security updates....
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 24 2016, 06:18 PM)
I thought I will post this here as well since it is revealed that the Mi5 also has the same Qualcomm's Aqstic DAC as found on the HTC 10.

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/20...ard-audiophiles

So audio wise, it should be as good as HTC 10. Strange that there was no mention of this by Xiaomi as a point to market this phone...
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Do you realise the version which is coming isn't the same speed with the 64GB n 128GB? And the chipset which HTC10 uses is same with Mi5 top range but not others? So don think the 3GB ram version have this chip build in... As some one mention long time ago... Chipset has been categorised binning quality in factory also... Don dream that you can get top performance binning with that price...
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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Jun 24 2016, 07:46 PM)
Oops, I thought new chip also got 8 cores instead 4?? Same goes to SD 810? Will 820 tends to overheat easily?
Local set will be less bloatware, then can be faster than Mi in China? My frens said Mi phones die fast compared to other, their durability and quality bit in doubt...
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MIUI is full of ram hogging functions so don expect too much...
Nexus 6P vs Mi5 same 3GB ram, Nexus will be better in multitasking...
The quality and durability.... Some ppl says ok some says so so...
But Redmi Note 3 has complaint of gaps and some others concerns... some of the issues you need to really be picky to realise that... The FP sensor and backer has a big gap... Some as big as can fit in about 0.3-0.5mm thickness of paper...

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jun 24 2016, 08:58 PM)
If mi5 loaded with aosp like nexus, sure will fast as nexus too...
Question now what if nexus loaded with miui, will it be fast like aosp ?

I'm on miui for 1 mth before move to RR. The speed is double, memory free maintain at 1.2gb compare 500mb with miui.
So not which phone is better, it's the rom itself...
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Yes rom... Agree...

QUOTE(WahBiang @ Jun 24 2016, 08:59 PM)

What do you mean by hogging fuctions? Does it mean out 3gb, maybr 2gb ram is usable compared to other hp maybe can fully utilise 3gb?? Yout mi 5 got that issue? Claimed warranty??

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MIUI rom takes more ram compare to others... So multitasking is bad that's all... It will takes about 1.5G at startup as claimed by others... While others rom takes about 1G...
I don have Mi5 sorry I can't comment, I read review or watch YouTube and get info from there...

Yea u can say I hate MIUI, I use Mi3 before the UI looks good but updates has been slow... Promises has been broken and excuse has been given... But until now mi3 still in KitKat official rom...
same as Samsung which I'm using one now also J5... Waze navigation can be killed at background when I accept a call and reply a whatsapp msg only... It can't even handle 3 apps at background... Cos the ROM hogs ram... Although 1.5G only but it should be better...
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QUOTE(metaloid @ Jun 24 2016, 09:08 PM)
Er the ram issue is because of the miui os which is heavy so taking up more ram, not because faulty. Just can't open as many apps.
Sorry but that leagoo can go fly kite. Dunno what octa core processor and still on Android 5.1. Version 6.01 release long ago, might as well buy Honor 5x.
If your budget is around 1k,  mi5 is a good phone overall.
Actually i would recommend Nexus 5x.
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I heard Nexus 5x is coming over.. yes.. it might be a good buy also... Officially support all on time updates by Google until Sept 2017...
But might extend beyond...

Not like some company giving excuse not to update to Lollipop although officially saying it will be coming... Abandon it saying their KitKat OS custom UI already have the function...
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that price i think might be AP for 32GB... but 64GB confirm is AP... coz not even India got their's yet...
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QUOTE(Iphone5s6120 @ Jun 26 2016, 02:01 PM)
Where can get 64gb
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Duno... Cos I'm not interested to get AP so I don bother...
No official unit I don buy... How good also no use, got official set only I consider...

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