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xyrotix
post Mar 15 2016, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Mar 14 2016, 02:31 PM)
lol, you guys see the inner screen black bezels? It's so ugly...
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even thicker than mi4 .
I guess i need to get black then =/ although i like white version .


QUOTE(tongaz86 @ Mar 14 2016, 11:07 PM)
So battery life lesser then my Mi4S.I thought SD820 is more efficient.
Won't really notice it in real life & while using actually.
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The 32gb using 2nd grade s820 , so it will heat up more and has less battery life .

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post Mar 15 2016, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(tongaz86 @ Mar 15 2016, 11:24 PM)
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Thats good. Just in time before August.
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post Mar 16 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(xyrotix @ Mar 15 2016, 11:47 PM)
even thicker than mi4 .
I guess i need to get black then =/ although i like white version .
The 32gb using 2nd grade s820 , so it will heat up more and has less battery life .
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There is such thing as 2nd grade s820? hmm~
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post Mar 16 2016, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Tiaso @ Mar 16 2016, 08:58 AM)
There is such thing as 2nd grade s820? hmm~
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yes there is .
you would also surprise to know there is for snapdragon 800 and 801 also .
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post Mar 16 2016, 09:02 AM

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i thought they throttle the chipset speed only???
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post Mar 16 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Mar 16 2016, 09:02 AM)
i thought they throttle the chipset speed only???
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and the reason they throttle the speed ?
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post Mar 16 2016, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Tiaso @ Mar 16 2016, 08:58 AM)
There is such thing as 2nd grade s820? hmm~
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Not 2nd grade. is down-clocked speed. Just like the A9 Chip in the iPhone/iPod for example.
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post Mar 16 2016, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(xyrotix @ Mar 16 2016, 09:07 AM)
and the reason they throttle the speed ?
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to differentiate their products gap and price. Business strategy.
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post Mar 16 2016, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 16 2016, 10:17 AM)
to differentiate their products gap and price. Business strategy.
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nope . You cant be serious .
Purposely put lower clock speed to sell at lower price ?

QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 16 2016, 10:08 AM)
Not 2nd grade. is down-clocked speed. Just like the A9 Chip in the iPhone/iPod for example.
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Er down clocked speed mean 2nd grade .
no . A9 and A9X has different micro architecture .
I cant blame you . Normal user can only differentiate cpu by clock speed and core numbers .


There is many different grade in silicon industry grade by impurity inside the silicon .
The s820 inside 32gb mi5 has lower grade than others normal s820. It simply cannot run at normal frequency so they has to clock it down to run steady . It will consume more battery and generate more heat when running at same condition . It can be named snapdragon 820 lite/play or snapdragon 818 actually .

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post Mar 16 2016, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(xyrotix @ Mar 16 2016, 10:42 AM)
nope . You cant be serious .
Purposely put lower clock speed to sell at lower price ?
no . A9 and A9X has different micro architecture .
I cant blame you . Normal user can only differentiate cpu by clock speed and core numbers .
There is many different grade in silicon industry grade by impurity inside the silicon .
The s820 inside 32gb mi5 has lower grade than others normal s820. It simply cannot run at normal frequency so they has to clock it down to run steady . It will consume more battery and generate more heat when running at same condition . It can be named snapdragon 820 lite/play or snapdragon 818 actually .
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I see, will the company even disclose what grade are they using for 820? Every other new HP are using 820 now, so hard to distinguish =/
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post Mar 16 2016, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Tiaso @ Mar 16 2016, 11:17 AM)
I see, will the company even disclose what grade are they using for 820? Every other new HP are using 820 now, so hard to distinguish =/
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for now only 2 grade it seem .

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post Mar 16 2016, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Tiaso @ Mar 16 2016, 11:17 AM)
I see, will the company even disclose what grade are they using for 820? Every other new HP are using 820 now, so hard to distinguish =/
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I think we shouldnt worry, i trust in qualcomm's products regardless which snapdragon. MTK however i would be worried.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 16 2016, 10:08 AM)
Not 2nd grade. is down-clocked speed. Just like the A9 Chip in the iPhone/iPod for example.
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In cpu, gpu, soc, there will be always 2nd and 3 grade, usually ship to tier2 and tier3 customers. Common practise. That's why there are differences prices for final good products. How do I know? Let js say, used to work in this industry.

Certain wafer binning denote to certain grade.
I rest my writing here.
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QUOTE(xyrotix @ Mar 16 2016, 10:42 AM)
nope . You cant be serious .
Purposely put lower clock speed to sell at lower price ?
Er down clocked speed mean 2nd grade .
no . A9 and A9X has different micro architecture .
I cant blame you . Normal user can only differentiate cpu by clock speed and core numbers .
There is many different grade in silicon industry grade by impurity inside the silicon .
The s820 inside 32gb mi5 has lower grade than others normal s820. It simply cannot run at normal frequency so they has to clock it down to run steady . It will consume more battery and generate more heat when running at same condition . It can be named snapdragon 820 lite/play or snapdragon 818 actually .
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Mar 16 2016, 11:57 AM)
In cpu, gpu, soc, there will be always 2nd and 3 grade, usually ship to tier2 and tier3 customers. Common practise. That's why there are differences  prices for final good products. How do I know? Let js say, used to work in this  industry.

Certain wafer binning denote to certain grade.
I rest my writing here.
Cheers.
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Ah I see.. Learn something new today.. As I'm not into the Chips industry. Even the Snapdragon 800 and 801 got AA AB and AC grade. All of them different Clock Speed. So I can see different price tag if OEM buy from them.

But well, as for the A9 chips in the iPod are down-clocked compare to the iPhone A9 chips, not the A9X chips in the iPad.
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post Mar 16 2016, 01:47 PM

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anyone has the dual sim version? is multi user supported?
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post Mar 16 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(nonexno @ Mar 16 2016, 01:47 PM)
anyone has the dual sim version? is multi user supported?
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All Mi5 has dual sim
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post Mar 16 2016, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Mar 16 2016, 11:57 AM)
In cpu, gpu, soc, there will be always 2nd and 3 grade, usually ship to tier2 and tier3 customers. Common practise. That's why there are differences  prices for final good products. How do I know? Let js say, used to work in this  industry.

Certain wafer binning denote to certain grade.
I rest my writing here.
Cheers.
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Nice...new knowledge here...no wonder some phone can downclock more then other even if same phone and spec.

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post Mar 16 2016, 03:39 PM

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http://www.gizchina.com/2016/03/14/xiaomi-mi5-review/
I like this review cause its honest and dosent just praise it blindly. Seems the fingerprint scan and built quality is disappointing.
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post Mar 16 2016, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(metaloid @ Mar 16 2016, 03:39 PM)
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/03/14/xiaomi-mi5-review/
I like this review cause its honest and dosent just praise it blindly. Seems the fingerprint scan and built quality is disappointing.
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good and honest review rclxms.gif old tech of fingerprint scan ranting.gif
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This round camera looks good, cant wait to buy this to test it out.

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