I am a condo owner in Subang area. When I purchased the condo, there was no clause or agreement that mention I cannot rent my condo to African tenant.

Recently, an African student is interested in renting my condo, I was worried in the beginning but when I met the person, I can confirm that he is a very polite and soft spoken person, with genuine interest in doing his Master's degree study here. So I ended up OK with the rental and signed agreement with him.

However, when I inform the building management on this, the lady told me they don't welcome African tenants. I told her this is a screened and good tenant, then she changed her wording and said the building "ban" African tenants. I asked her to show me any legal document on this but she couldn't show anything, but she said if I insist to rent my condo to African tenant, she will ask security guards to block them from entering the building. I actually see there are a few African tenants living in the building too.

I am really disappointed with the racist attitude of this lady from building management, I would like to know if the building management can block my tenants with no legal documents backing them up, or cause trouble with my tenant? and if they do block, how do I go around getting legal help to sort this out? file police report or contact a lawyer?

No, they can't.

ive heard one condo at puchong. anyway, i suggest u try find another tenant to avoid headache.

How about his friends?

They can't. What a disgusting racist attitude.

Disruptive tenants and Africans are completely different things. I have many African friends who are kinder, smarter, more generous than these bunch of racist Malaysians.

Only few bad apples. Actually more local tenant are 10x much worst than ph.

nope. condo management no power.
that's why ask for b&c cannot show anything

No. They can't.

no, he assures that only he stays there... i have right to kick him out if he violets the agreement of keeping more people into my condo long term.

i think resident committee (RC) can decide whether to allow or not to allow...Building management just maintain the building, unless ur condo is under certain company , not manage by resident committee...

2/3 have chosen No

although i dont encourage rent to african but this is simply racist

If i were u I will bring this matter to press

Yes, if the majority in an AGM or EGM voted to African Tenants.

63.16% voted NO as now

Depend your pov.
Have undesire tenant do lower condo pricing.

Are you ok with that?

Why would Ts insist on renting his condo to an African? The answer is simple. Because they can pay higher rental compared to locals. Why do they have to offer you higher rental rates? You figure out the answer yourself.

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Jan 14 2016, 08:57 AM

Agree. hard fact: condo A without any african due to ban by RA right next to condo B with african. Condo A value and rental at least 10% higher in long run. Not racist. Just business. I have colleagues and friends who are black. But when it comes to investment. Just follow the numbers. Maybe short term you gain. Long term sure lose. TS ask yourself, 90% of people buy your unit in the future sure uncomfortable with your tenant.

Yes. JMB can do so but all these must came from residents voting or during AGM, by majority. Management only follow the job.

So, TS, pls check with ur condo JMB rather than check the vote here which totally kenot help u.

To pass a by-law, you need 75% votes for a special resolution at AGM or egm...

What's this poll for, we're not part of your residents' committee LOL..

Anyway, this is one of the issue that you have to deal with for non landed property. All of you are effectively occupying on a same piece of land and managed by one JMB. Accept the fact that you cannot please everybody, and final decisions are all dependable on voting process among residents. You think that you're renting out to a good person, but your neighbor might have had a nightmare experience before prior. Who knows? Nobody knows, thus, vote, and majority decides.

Everyone just wanna stay in peace at a place they call home, what for go make police report all those =__=

Your condo management is implementing some good. Good medicine is bitter. Take it. Good for you.

Racial discrimation of PH ? Forget it. This is for the activists. Are you one activitist and trying to be fare ?

The private Unis got all these fake students and just interested in the money without imposing checks on them. If you are an activist, should address the issue with private uni and emigration office (government).

There are enough props which are still renting to PH. So no need to worry the have no place to stay.

If this condo is not infested yet with all this PH, then better not. Don't spoil the market just for slightly higher ROI. You're not living there and you're making money out of it, easy for you to make the decision. These PH are unpredictable.

The only PH that I would rent my property to are those doing PHD and living with their family (wife and kid). That's all. The non-married ones, I'd rather not.

Call me racist all you want but these people are nothing but trouble.

Maybe this will change your mind.

Venice Hill incident

So, for house owners, stop letting your greed get the better of you.

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Jan 14 2016, 09:06 AM

Have you consider this, what if youre wrong and your tenant is a nuisance.

flora damansara has a reputation as well for PH problem..

to avoid trouble I just don't rent to them at all as its too much risk - in the beginning they may appear good mannered, and all but
for all you know you may be watching an Oscar winning performance !

yes or no, having them inside will certainly lower your property value

Hi. I had few bad experiences with PH.
1. Recently quite a number of PH caught by police for scam syndicate. surprisingly they are all students at college/univ. The police raided them at the house they rented.
2. Few PH try to break into my neighbor house. Police managed to catch a few.
3. PH like to do party/noise especially after midnite. Then got drunk.
4. Throw rubbish everywhere
5. Drive car like crazy
6. Plus so many things

If you rent your house to PH, yes.. you might get high rental yield but it will cause lots of trouble to you and those staying there.
It's just not that, the property price will be affected. My fren unable to sell her house due to too many PH at her condo.

Just don't get me wrong. It's not racist. There are also lots of foreigner from other country but they do not cause trouble. I'm ok with them. Well, not all PH is bad, but very hard to find a good one.
Malaysia government should really look into this PH issue. Sigh.

if rent to PH, you have to arrange guard 24 hours watching them

Thread becoming PH bashing spree

Try going to sleep at 3AM and suddenly you thought Zouk just opened next door.

Also, these people, they always pretend to be proper and polite during rental screening to convince owner that they are the "good ones". End up still the same.

adui..sharing bad experiences renting to PH for the benefit of those who are thinking of renting to them is "bashing" ka?

Malaysia boleh!

lucky there's no PH in lyn.. If not, donno what gonna happen

I've encountered a project where the Deed of Mutual Covenants expressly stated that owners are not allowed to rent the parcels to "foreign students" but then again, so yes, you can actually set up a rule to not do something BUT unless everyone is in consensus, it will never happen.

Try telling this to an investor who is having problem making his installment payments to the Bank. He'd rent the parcel out to a murderer if it helps him financially.

ya I know which project is that..and I fully support it..
anyway the project in question is considered high end and not really targeting "foreign students" as renters in the first place...

it doesn't matter what was the target of the Developer in the first place, it's what that's making money.

i think even with the Deed of Mutual Covenants, people will still breach it and the only way to enforce is by way of civil litigation so who is righteous enough to incur such costs for the benefit of the whole?

thus the answer to the question is; Yes, theoretically it's possible to impose a "ban" but practically impossible.

at least its a win win situation for both developer and buyers..

Those who are in property investment for a long time will not look at short term gains at the expense of long term..

:haha: i think property investors will care more if they can finance their current financial expenditure rather than if they can maintain the property in the long term. it wouldn't do them much good if their property is auctioned off XD

these investors will flip the property as soon as possible so they wouldn't exactly be afraid if the influx of "unwanted tenants" will affect the property so as long as they can secure the right rental.

investors will sell to another investors and if the rental is good, it's a encouraging factor to buy. they don't care if the project turns into a cesspool.

am talking about REAL investors..there is a huge difference

Anyway it all boils down to money vs ethics.

If one think money is the only consideration in his renting equation then he/she will rent out to whoever irregardless of local/foreign/demographics.

Short term vs long term gain plays a big role, with regards to property value appreciation, and most importantly additional cost to maintain the said unit upon end of tenancy.

Mind sharing which project?

Bangsar South's UOA SouthView

i wonder if everyone with that mentality i wonder where PH who are sincere will stay...setting an image that malaysia do not welcome PH... imagine if that happen at your own race..how will you feel...

PH got no place to stay? That will not happen. There are still quite many PH friendly places they can consider.

Many local females prefer to have black boy friends.

Malaysia does not welcome PH? That also will not happen. Many Unis still want to earn their money.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Jan 14 2016, 02:46 PM

yup...what i'm saying IF ALL UNIT start applying these type of ruling...

That will not happen. The market force will adjust by itself. Imagine someone trying to ban PH in mentari court or venice hill, will it be successful?

better dont rent, not racist. but safer than sorry later.

Take legal action on the management. This is racist!

management can set their house rule,
as long as around 66.6% agree on the rule.

they cant do anything lah. JMB got no authority to ban people from a building.

JMB have a hard time even asking for money from owners for service. you think they can tell owner who to rent to? hahaha. they cant do anything.

but as others said. maybe it'll save you some trouble not to rent to him.

just told that nikka i cant help u leh.

Money minded people will always play racist card... tapi bila kena kat anak bini masing masing.. sendiri mau pikir lorrr..

My place.. we set rules if still wanna rent to african student... any damage caused by them will be bourned by owner it self... and direct billing into maintenance acc...

More than rm 300 maintenance bill not paid.. we block parking... entrance access card... lift access ... and do remember..owner just own house but not common area...

totally have no idea why this post became a poll which is not related at all.

Why very insists to rent this this particular PH and wanna against management decision, whether it was set to help the image of the highrise or could be it majority owners own decision which sey by JMC? Seems unknown here.

Did you talk to the JMC to clarify this matter instead of gather a poll here? generally, management company has no right to block any tenants but if JMC advise to empower management, the guards are also empower to stop this ppl going in.

Perhaps ask the african boy to photostat hes course offer letter to you. Then u can submit to mgmt?

Ask for attendant records as well.