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post Mar 4 2016, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ Mar 4 2016, 02:02 AM)
Slow down there Satan. Here I was thinking you're friends with olivur, but then you offer him TFA Honey? Das murder in progress
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LOLOL! He doesn't have to vape it. I'd use it myself to discourage juice moochers, keep away stray cats and squirrels....but I already have something MUCH more potent than TFA honey biggrin.gif

Besides, it'd be even worse if I actually HAd some greek yoghurt and made up a bottle with honey for him, right?
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post Mar 4 2016, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ Mar 4 2016, 02:11 AM)
Emm.. Butric acid aka Barf-de-Cologne and TFA Honey, aka liquefied cat piss. For that special vape quality when you just hate yourself and the world.
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Damn..I think I just threw up a little in my mouth after reading yr post. sad.gif

QUOTE(olivur @ Mar 4 2016, 02:14 AM)
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nekkidgramma backtrack to what I said last page!
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Unlax dude...I was kidding! biggrin.gif Will PM ya
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post Mar 4 2016, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ Mar 4 2016, 02:21 AM)
Well look at what we have here, a pot of whoopsie daisies! Must've missed it when I stop andyng38 from committing murder by Honey.

Guess I need to change my playlist for movie night. Seems there's a bunch of thing I've missed out on Saul. I've been avoiding spoilers from that series like a hippie dodging real world responsibilities.
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I've never seen someone reject a honeypot before...da devil made me do it? Owait..u called me satan...so i guess I made myself do it! biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2016, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ Mar 4 2016, 02:21 AM)
Well look at what we have here, a pot of whoopsie daisies! Must've missed it when I stop andyng38 from committing murder by Honey.

Guess I need to change my playlist for movie night. Seems there's a bunch of thing I've missed out on Saul. I've been avoiding spoilers from that series like a hippie dodging real world responsibilities.

*Disclaimer: TFA Honey and TFA Greek Yogurt isn't all that bad actually. TFA Honey needs a long ass steeping, close to 3 months if you used it more than 3-4% but I've made a great Pear,Honey and Clove juice using TFA Honey. **Got the idea from the Honey and Clove romance series.

TFA Greek Yogurt is great. Smells like barf tho cuz of the butric acid but if you're gonna make a Shwartz juice knock off, then it's a great place to start.
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OK come on..admit it...you wanted the honey for yourself. Since olivur is still shaking his fist at me (hope he ain't offering a hand job), I'll gladly send it to u if u so desire. I'll not use it...not even at 0.5% and 6 months steeping!
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post Mar 4 2016, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(olivur @ Mar 4 2016, 02:46 AM)
nekkidgramma I always had a hunch you were someone after my own heart. honey and clover just sealed that. I'm sending you a brobracelet soon.

andy38 in anger! in anger! et tu brute!
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post Mar 4 2016, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Mar 4 2016, 09:24 AM)
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Silent reader without an account or purposely make a dupe? lol
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Who knows? It could even be the same person who was asking in /k about being bipolar! biggrin.gif Endless possibilities....

QUOTE(Aeroberg @ Mar 4 2016, 11:09 AM)
Good stuffs. Thanks. If I ever get close to replicating it, will share. Cheers
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Actually your question had intrigued me...been doing some thinking about it. The company seems to have a pirates of the caribbean theme, so it's most probably be jamaican rum used. Bear in mind I've yet to taste it and the following is merely a guesstimate based on stated main flavors and impressions of several reviewers. Maybe u can try making a trial 5ml bottle of

Acetyl pyrazine 0.5%
Butter, Capella 1.5%
Butter cream, Capella 2.5%
Yellow cake, FlavorWest 3%
Jamaican rum, whichever brand u come across 2.5%
Vanilla bean ice cream, TFA 3.5%
Brown sugar TFA 1.5%

Vids of the cloud production make me think it's probably 50/50 pg/vg. If you taste any spices in the rum of the original, do let me know.


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QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Mar 4 2016, 06:50 PM)
Hi all sifus!

Just upgraded from my 9 months old Subox to provari now. Currently using the Russian 91% and now seem to always have the problem of coil and wick gone bad after maximum of 2 days.

I already ensured it is wicked and coiled properly, wick not too tight, airflow not blocked, coil heat up evenly, etc.. But it only last for 2 days.

Recoil and wicking every 2 days is sickening.. Please advise..
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If you have to make a new coil every 2 days, then something is very wrong. Don't you dry burn your coils (assuming they're not Ti wire coils) after removing the wick to get rid of the built-up gunk? Ti wires can be gently pulsed to achieve the same end, but I don't recommend it.

Rewicking is part of vape life. If you're paying say RM30 for 30ml of juice, that's RM1/ml. Russian 91% has 4.5ml capacity. That's RM4.50 worth of juice in a full tank. Isn't it worthwhile to spend a few sen worth of cotton and some time to rewick, so that you can get the full clean flavor of each RM4.50 tankful?

You can extend rewicking intervals by choosing juices which are less sweet, and less colorful. The main culprit of such gunking are the sugars, which are caramelized (and then carbonized) by the coils' heat. The sweeter it is, the more gunk buildup. I strongly suspect some dyes added to juices also may contribute to the problem.


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QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Mar 4 2016, 09:18 PM)
If he is vaping Castle Long Reserve, it will be RM 21 for every 4.5 ml. LoL

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Once you perfect yr Castle Long Extra Premium Special Gold Edition and market it, sure manyak laku laa! ka-chinggg!
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post Mar 4 2016, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:20 PM)
No... With my subox, I rewick every week and coil could last me up to 3 weeks!!
I don't know, the russian 91 tank heat up easily too if I chain vape.
Been trying several e- juice. same issue
I am using kanthal A1 28awg. Already tried cleaning it as much as possible.

I don't mind rewicking or to recoil.. But once every 2 days is just crazy!!

Yes true, certain juice tend to damage the coil and wick more (those with high VG) but im using the 50/50 e-juice now...

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Please pass a photo of your cleaned coils to jameslionhart. Angle the photo so that he can also see the height of the coil from the deck too. Hopefully yr problem can be easily solved!
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QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Mar 4 2016, 09:25 PM)
I haven't even start or source the kayu yet. LoL. I HOPE!! LoL, no need to buy anymore. Every ML is like a bowl of curry mee (RM4.60). LoL
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Curry mee for RM4.60? WHERE?? I paid RM6.50 for a bowl in chinatown...prolly kena ketuk by the guy.
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QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Mar 4 2016, 09:35 PM)
I try lorh. Me still noob le sifu.
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Mar 4 2016, 09:43 PM)
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QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Mar 4 2016, 09:41 PM)
Morning Pasar  biggrin.gif

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Lucky u!

Sidetracking- re: wood for steeping purposes. Today I had tea with the pakcik whom I make pipe tobacco ejuice for. We were yakking all things vape-related. Suddenly he said to me, "Kenapa tak coba kayu tongkat ali?".

*lightbulb glowing above head* time!

I'll be experimenting with that for sure!
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QUOTE(94brian @ Mar 5 2016, 11:26 AM)
hmmm guys...
why i keep coughing?
last time smoke cough,now vape also cough...
not instant cough after exhale but after awhile,my throat have geli2 feel then cough.
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Aside from the throat hit possibility, other potential causes are:

You're not sufficiently hydrated. PG and VG are humectants; they attract and draw moisture from your tissue. Your throat gets irritated by the dryness and you cough as a natural reaction. Drink air kelapa muda...it's one of the better fluids to quickly rehydrate you. If you can't get that, try an oral rehydration salt like Electral Forte, available from pharmacies (I use that myself when needed)...it's cheap..about 50sen a packet plus that damned GST. And simply keep sipping on plain old water thru the day.

If you've recently stopped smoking, your body will be automatically repairing itself. New tissues are being grown and contaminants are being expelled. This transition period will cause you to be more sensitive to vaping for a while; it can be a few months to a few years.

Sensitivity to PG will cause coughing. So will using juices which are too sweet and are heavily dyed. If you don't brew yr own juices, try to switch to a max VG juice that is less sweet and not colored. If you don't mind a slightly diluted flavor, you can add 1 or 2ml of reverse-osmosis water/saline to 30ml commercial juice; the water will help lessen the drying effect. If you have the time, I urge you to look into DIY-ing your own juices; you can then make concoctions which will be less cough-inducing.

This may or may not be a possible cause for coughing: some of the more elderly vapers (ex-smokers) I know (age 55 and up) report that when they switch juices, there's a transition period where they will cough for a while and more phlegm is produced. After that period (ranging from a few hours to 1 day), they're ok as long as they stick to one flavor. I have yet to hear the same thing from younger ex-smoker vapers.




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QUOTE(Aeroberg @ Mar 7 2016, 05:51 PM)
Last Friday went to Flavourist to get the ingredients and mixed a 15ml version using this mix.

Butter 1%
Cake batter 5%
Jamaican Rum 1%
Vanilla bean ice cream 5%
Brown Sugar 1%
Ethyl malthol 4 drops

First hand, the smell is not quite there but not a long way off either. Haven't tasted it yet though. Will probably steep it a week just for the sake of it. Am probably lacking acetyl pyrazine though. Ran out of VG before I can make a different mix. Thought I saw online somewhere stating it at 70VG30PG, so I made that. How important are those ratio to the flavour anyway? (Genuine question)

Off hand don't remember which brand those ingredients are. Will check and update.
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For myself, I'll always taste every juice when freshly made, even tho it requires steeping. This lets me know how the recipe will go as it matures. It also lets me know the interactions of the various flavors in those proportions from day 1...that's valuable info. Also, generally speaking if an experimental mix tastes like crap on the first day, chances are slim that it will taste better later on.

With that having been said, judging from your ingredients, your mix should turn out to be rather decent! Am glad you went easy on the ethyl maltol...it's a great flavor muter. If you want some gentle smoothing of your mix and a touch of sweetening, consider TFA Marshmallow instead of EM...it's a better mixer. But if you taste cotton candy in the original juice, then EM's the way to go. Should you detect a touch of saltiness in the original, then you may wish to try adding 4 to 4.5% saline while upping the other flavors to above 22% in total (otherwise it'll just taste weak due to the dilution by the saline).

About PG/VG ratios
PG is the flavor carrier..so the more PG you use, the more flavor you get. Want more clouds, up the VG %. That's the general way things go.

However in my continuous musings on why some import juices taste so much better, one factor I've been cracking my head on is "mouth-feel". I believe mouth-feel also contributes to our perception of flavor. Imagine if you will, 2 same-flavor juices (not necessarily having the same percentage of flavors)...one with thinner vapor production and one with much thicker vapor. I've made high VG versions of 50-50 juices and I prefer the former....gobs of thick rich vapor in my mouth. Am currently experimenting with VG-based flavorings and additives. So far the initial results of several juices have been most gratifying (2 thumbs up from my usual victims) biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Aeroberg @ Mar 7 2016, 05:56 PM)
No spices in the rum of the original
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OK..good to know that. Now I'm wondering how it'll taste when a spiced jamaican rum is used instead! Aah infinite possibilities...
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QUOTE(bluedream @ Mar 8 2016, 06:18 AM)
gemini came after the griffin
griffin then kept thinkin and thinkin
on how winning the game of vapin
look what suddenly came in... lol

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Now that's something I'd like to get
And put on an Evic Mini
It'll bug the heck out of some, I bet
Due to overhang OCD biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Mar 8 2016, 09:34 AM)
Indeed sir. I'm in search of the thick and mouthful vape as well. I'm still cracking my head on how their juice is so flavorful and decent throat hit but yet high VG.

I tried using smooth and EM for the smooth and mouth-fullness. But yeah it muted the hell out of my flavors.
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Been cracking me head on choice of a new tv over the past few days...not much thoughts on juices for a change. Refresh rates, 4k or plain old HD, viewing angles, 49, 50 or 60" screen etc been clogging da brain, especially the painful prices. Anyhoo...I only add smooth to certain tobacco blends...some can be downright nasty before a 1-2 month steep and still rough after, so they require a bit of taming. Smooth mutes some of our tastebuds...it alters our perception of flavors. Use sparingly! (but I advise u to avoid using it unless it's a really nasty tobacco blend) smile.gif


QUOTE(Aeroberg @ Mar 8 2016, 01:51 PM)
Tried it yesterday. The mix is decent but not quite there. What I like about it is that I didn't add any sweetener and yet there's a hint of sweetness in it which suits me just fine. Will try pushing it to 50/50 concoction for next round. Don't think there were saltiness in the original. If you're interested to try the original, I got it last time from Kudeta Vape @ Kota Damansara. Not sure if they still have stock or not. You're right about the "mouth-feel". The original had thick vapor which left a very strong after taste.
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Aaah..u added 4 drops of EM if i recall correctly....that's a sweetener, but only 4 drops probably didn't have much impact on anything. You're probably tasting the sweetness from the cake batter. And since that level of sweetness suits you, you're golden on that aspect. This is what DIY brewing is all about...making juices to suit YOU! Am glad your mix is decent. Yes do give your creation more time to steep.

You know what I do each time I get a new flavoring? I taste a drop or two of it and try to remember how it feels on the tongue. How strong it is, how sweet (or how un-sweet), and other nuances of the pure flavoring is handy info to have. It'll let u agak-agak if u need to add more sweetener, or not add any at all as well as give you some inkling of how that flavor will interact with others.
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Go on...put quad/octa claptons in...u know u wanna! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(olivur @ Mar 11 2016, 12:51 AM)
nuuu lol I don't even make claptons anymore, still a lot of 0.9, 0.5 ribbon and 36g wires left too ;; you might want one of the 40mm rda to mess with ocd anti-over hangers though lol
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QUOTE(king_coolice @ Mar 14 2016, 01:23 PM)
Hi all masters, I recently bought One Hit Wonder Milkman. The taste is a bit off to my liking. It tasted like a burned coil, more strawberry less milk taste. Any idea what flavor I should add in to make it more "milky" taste? Thinking to get some milk flavor from the flavourist to add in. Thx
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From a OHW seller:

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This juice requires about 2-4 weeks steeping, the longer your steep it, the stronger flavour it has. There are a few tips you can follow:

1. open the cap for few hours when you receive it.

2. Shake the juice everyday or put it upside down.

3. Store in dark and warm places.


Source: http://www.no1ejuice.com/one-hit-wonder-the-milk-man-180ml/

My guess: Because some strawberry flavors start to fade/mute about 2 weeks after steeping, OHW slowed down the ageing process by bottling it in an argon/nitrogen atmosphere. Less oxygen = less oxidation = less ageing. By letting the customer do the steeping, the optimal taste period will be longer.

Anyways if you still require more milk taste later on, The Flavourist carries TFA Dairy which is a decent mixer..the milk flavor is not very pronounced...it's a bit subtle. You can also try a touch of TFA Malted Milk (if you prefer a malty taste).

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