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TSVyrnach
post Jan 13 2016, 10:53 AM, updated 10y ago

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I feel like this issue deserves a dedicated thread. Had UNIFI for a few months already and had no problems at all. Then about 1 month ago my connection starts to go haywire at night. I brushed it off as something temporarily caused by maintenance or something (there was a letter about some maintenance). One month later and still happening and getting even worst.

Downloading and browsing slightly slower but nothing major but other activities like online gaming and even VOIP are severely affected. Currently actively engaging with a TM tech person regarding this and will update accordingly.
Tech guy came over and made some changes on my gateway 'port' and asked me to try again. Nothing changed. He suggested that it might be router problem as I also heard from other people saying changing their router helped.

If anyone has managed to solve this issue, please share your experience!

13/1 Edit: A friend had this problem 'fixed' by changing his router. Will confirm further. Tech guy contacted again and he said it is now a 'known problem' and will get back to me. Will be rerouted to a 'TM engineer'

14/1 Edit: It's confirmed that the issue has been resolved for my friend after he changed the router. Will test further on my side today before I will proceed to buy a replacement too

18/1 Edit: My friend that had his problem resolved is using a not so high end Asus N12 router. TM engineer who is using VIP10 with stock router does not have this issue. I still have this issue but recently I've seen 'some' improvements for my side (Kuching)

Personal theory on why this is happening
Short version: The router provided by TM is so lousy (TM tech: specs are below minimum for fiber optics)
Long version: The router fails to cope with a more congested/stressed fiber optical signal which is clearly evident during peak hours that your connection gets 'flooded'/over buffered/bufferfloat to the point where your connection stability degrades. In other words, your router is bottle-neck(ing) what is otherwise a really fast and stable connection. A better router that has a much better specification are able to handle this amount of stress and therefore would result in a more stable connection overall. This is made even worst due to the sudden influx of subscribers to the UNIFI30 package
Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufferbloat

Side note but not related
"major breakdown in the India-Middle East-Western Europe (IMEWE) submarine cable, which has impacted the whole region of South Asia" Ref: Google news feed This has only affected our connection to certain Europea countries

If you wanna test yourself: (requires .NET 3.5):
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/JTVPing.zip

Normal connection @ 10am
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Awful connection @ 10pm
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This post has been edited by Vyrnach: Jan 18 2016, 04:18 PM
mujinkun
post Jan 13 2016, 10:57 AM

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Unifi currently is very bad...

Day or night...

sigh...even on 30MBps also feel like less than 1MBps...


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post Jan 13 2016, 10:57 AM

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Hope we can Twit them...fast reply...
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:59 AM

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yup i agree, for me day time no issue but night time while playing can get dc wan... not to mention speed drop to about 20mbps
TSVyrnach
post Jan 13 2016, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Jan 13 2016, 10:57 AM)
Hope we can Twit them...fast reply...
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here's my my tweet to them https://twitter.com/Vyrnach/status/687092606853976064

QUOTE(Super Maniam @ Jan 13 2016, 10:59 AM)
yup i agree, for me day time no issue but night time while playing can get dc wan... not to mention speed drop to about 20mbps
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lately stopped playing competitive games cause too frustrating sad.gif
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post Jan 13 2016, 11:04 AM

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Me in Putra Heights now also very bad...
Even Youtubing also need to load a few seconds before can play...then in the middle loading again.
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post Jan 13 2016, 11:09 AM

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It's been happening to me in Sungai Buloh area as well. For me daytime is ok but during the afternoon onwards there will be slowdowns when browsing and with some downloads. Currently on the 30MBps plan.
TSVyrnach
post Jan 13 2016, 02:44 PM

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anyone here having the issue and using streamyx or the old UNIFI5, UNIFI10 and UNIFI20 packages?
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post Jan 13 2016, 07:21 PM

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At night, TM tends to QoS certain border router connections to the death.
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post Jan 13 2016, 09:13 PM

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I got around 40ms in-game ping at daytime. But at nighttime, I got around 100ms in-game ping. Anyone know why like this? I'm using stock router with LAN connection.

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post Jan 13 2016, 10:50 PM

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Same, there are sudden drops on connection on nighttime (most often), and limited connection speed during late morning (9-11am) (seldom occurrences)
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post Jan 13 2016, 11:48 PM

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Unibiz here. having the same issue. going to cancel off and subscribe unifi 30. now need to pay so much for crappy service.
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:40 AM

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it's confirmed that the issue has been 'mostly' resolved for my friend after he changed the router. Will test further on my side today before I will proceed to buy a replacement too

this is from him at 11pm last night:
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post Jan 14 2016, 07:59 PM

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I usually get the 60.5*.*.* or similar IP pool. Today I have 1.3*.*.* and so far everything looks OK. Can anyone else confirm?
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post Jan 15 2016, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Vyrnach @ Jan 14 2016, 11:40 AM)
it's confirmed that the issue has been 'mostly' resolved for my friend after he changed the router. Will test further on my side today before I will proceed to buy a replacement too

this is from him at 11pm last night:
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Did you mean in-game ping will be better after changing to another router? If so, How's your in-game ping recently? FYI, I'm using stock router.

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post Jan 15 2016, 11:57 PM

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I can't stand their shitty routing service that has been plaguing me for months. My ping to S.Korea servers have spiked up from 200+ms to over 400, and I have to rely on a VPN to retain the former readings.

Also using the stock router. I'm planning to change it since I've read lots of bad reviews about it.
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post Jan 16 2016, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(UserU @ Jan 15 2016, 11:57 PM)
I can't stand their shitty routing service that has been plaguing me for months. My ping to S.Korea servers have spiked up from 200+ms to over 400, and I have to rely on a VPN to retain the former readings.

Also using the stock router. I'm planning to change it since I've read lots of bad reviews about it.
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Is there anything we can do for their routing service?
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post Jan 16 2016, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(erik8lyt @ Jan 16 2016, 11:08 AM)
Is there anything we can do for their routing service?
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One way I was told is to contact TMNet
TSVyrnach
post Jan 18 2016, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(erik8lyt @ Jan 15 2016, 10:33 PM)
Did you mean in-game ping will be better after changing to another router? If so, How's your in-game ping recently? FYI, I'm using stock router.
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Confirmed with my friend regarding this. He had the same issue as me then he changed his router and the issue is gone for him. I personally have not bought a new router yet so I can't confirm
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post Jan 18 2016, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Vyrnach @ Jan 18 2016, 09:17 AM)
Confirmed with my friend regarding this. He had the same issue as me then he changed his router and the issue is gone for him. I personally have not bought a new router yet so I can't confirm
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I am not sure but can somebody explain what is the diff btw stock unifi router with "NEW" router purchase outside? If the router seem to be the issue.

I having the same problem and would like to understand it to resolve it.

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