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Please read, Isit any good ah? compare with current RON97
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i guess it is better for the bugatti veyron...
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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Jan 11 2016, 05:41 PM) Please read, Isit any good ah? compare with current RON97 Only if your cars require RON higher than 97.http://v2.sini.com.my/business/car/car_sal...eqid=9000006123 ![]() Just he same like asking if RON97 is good or not, it's good only for cars requiring RON higher than 95. |
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Which Petron station in klang valley has it?
Also how much per litre? |
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 11 2016, 10:30 PM) Since we were advised against linking to Paultan, it's better you look there for the 6 stations in Klang Valley which offer RON100. Intro price same as RON97.Unless you have turbo or super charged engine, I doubt will feel anything. |
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QUOTE(waiora_protuner @ Jan 11 2016, 10:32 PM) QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 11 2016, 10:43 PM) Since we were advised against linking to Paultan, it's better you look there for the 6 stations in Klang Valley which offer RON100. Intro price same as RON97. Thanks for both your replies. Will check n see p**lt*n Unless you have turbo or super charged engine, I doubt will feel anything. |
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If really same price as ron 97, I would like to try it out. Saw the comments in fb n pault page, but nothing on pricing
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bro mozact, any difference kah?
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Later I will go refuel and see too
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i heard the octane is quite high, so its mostly for high performance engine maybe
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QUOTE(pai3355 @ Jan 12 2016, 09:08 AM) QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 12 2016, 09:59 AM) Im upgrade from 97. What i can say, more responsive. 100-140kmh is easier on gear D6. No need to drop to D5. I test after the sg besi Plus toll. |
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Only tuned engines or performance cars will benefit from the high octane rating of the fuel.
However, to really notice the difference, one will have to ensure the petrol within the car tank no longer carries Ron95 or Ron97 fuels. So an accurate report will only be available once someone has pumped in the 2nd or 3rd consecutive tank of Ron100 petrol. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 12 2016, 12:57 PM) Only tuned engines or performance cars will benefit from the high octane rating of the fuel. Most will not realize that is the additives in the fuel that giving you the impression of extra power and/or mileageHowever, to really notice the difference, one will have to ensure the petrol within the car tank no longer carries Ron95 or Ron97 fuels. So an accurate report will only be available once someone has pumped in the 2nd or 3rd consecutive tank of Ron100 petrol. |
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Only well benefit engines with high compression engines like Toyota 86 or Civic Type R. Butt dyno may tell you differently lol
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 12 2016, 03:06 PM) Most will not realize that is the additives in the fuel that giving you the impression of extra power and/or mileage Supposedly and I think this applies to all the German marques (BMW, Mercedes, Audi, VW, possibly Ford), the engines are tuned for Ron98. Using a lower octane fuel means the engine will retard itself to prevent knocking, meaning lower performance numbers and I THINK all the engines are shipped from Germany or from some factory located in EU. I do not think they are specially programmed or tuned to use our fuels here as evidenced from some of the dyno charts I've seen.It's definitely in the best interest of these owners to pump in Ron100 as this should allow them to bring out the best in their engine. |
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WAH LAU EHHH.... I PUMP RON100 SUDDENLY MY MYVI FEES LIKE GOT TURBOCHARGER & SMOOTH LIKE V6.
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Boost RON can get toluene, ethanol, some more better as they are solvent based and can clean the injection heads. This is what petrol can't do.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 12 2016, 12:57 PM) Only tuned engines or performance cars will benefit from the high octane rating of the fuel. pump and reset ECU for it to relearn...However, to really notice the difference, one will have to ensure the petrol within the car tank no longer carries Ron95 or Ron97 fuels. So an accurate report will only be available once someone has pumped in the 2nd or 3rd consecutive tank of Ron100 petrol. |
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My car feel very fast now...
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4g92 mivec wil be get full potential of the engine power when pump ron100...since the data 175hp quote from mitsubishi was using ron100 if not mistaken
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Go dyno test.
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Finally found the ron 100 petrol in pj after spending 30 min searching high n low for it
Went to taman tun petron but got cheated as don't have Went to bu area n found 3 petron. Luckily the third one has it... Didn't get chance to test the performance as roads were filled with cars |
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 12 2016, 10:48 PM) Finally found the ron 100 petrol in pj after spending 30 min searching high n low for it When you refueled, it has the sticker of Blaze 100/97?Went to taman tun petron but got cheated as don't have Went to bu area n found 3 petron. Luckily the third one has it... Didn't get chance to test the performance as roads were filled with cars |
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Petron will slowly be adding the Blaze 100 stickers over the existing Blaze 97 at the selected stations. Nozzle will remain green. Btw, most parking attendants only say that its not available at the selected stations yet - but you're actually getting it if you pump Blaze 97.
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Can Nissan Skyline R35 drink this ron100 ?
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due to its high performance & turbo engine of course la can drink
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 12 2016, 10:48 PM) Finally found the ron 100 petrol in pj after spending 30 min searching high n low for it bro, where u pump near bu area,Went to taman tun petron but got cheated as don't have Went to bu area n found 3 petron. Luckily the third one has it... Didn't get chance to test the performance as roads were filled with cars is it the 2 stations located near centerpoint? |
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Petron Kayu Ara will have Blaze 100. After McDs, turn down to the highway, the first petrol station.
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QUOTE(yh28 @ Jan 13 2016, 08:45 PM) This is one at Ara Damansara, coming out from Damansara toll on the left side..It is directly opposite BHP n Shell station (other direction).. Before the turn to DJ traffic lights.. It is not the station beside Shell near 1U and not the station beside Centrepoint This post has been edited by -PuPu^ZaPruD3r-: Jan 14 2016, 09:43 AM |
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Yep - will update on my FB and site tomorrow as soon as I get the news. Today is last day, priced at RON97.
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boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk You guys are not Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm. VW Golf MK6 GTI - standard ko4 borg warner turbo - Wagner Tuning Intercooler - REVO Stage 3 - Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back - 42 Draft Design Intake. courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB |
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That's a good healthy increase indeed
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 02:25 PM) boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk You guys are not Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm. VW Golf MK6 GTI - standard ko4 borg warner turbo - Wagner Tuning Intercooler - REVO Stage 3 - Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back - 42 Draft Design Intake. courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB So myth confirmed! At least for VW cars, the use of higher octane fuel is definitely beneficial! |
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wah, for what car woh ?
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 14 2016, 02:49 PM) Even the graph looks smoother. If you examine the graph posted by KT, you'd notice even the engine retardation is less. yup, the result is even better than 97.So myth confirmed! At least for VW cars, the use of higher octane fuel is definitely beneficial! however, upon some digging, it is not true for some other car tho QUOTE While we may not know about the effectiveness of every manufacturer’s engine electronics, we are relatively sure that BMW’s systems do not take advantage of a fuel that is more stable than RON 97. What we’re saying is that you could pump RON 100 into a BMW, but it is highly unlikely that the stock electronics can make use of that extra fuel stability and produce more power as a result. If we are talking about aftermarket tuning and mapping then perhaps there may be some advantage to it, but for now RON 100 is likely to benefit only high end sports cars and modified machines. As for the rest of us, RON 95/97 will do perfectly fine. Sos |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 02:25 PM) boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk You guys are not Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm. VW Golf MK6 GTI - standard ko4 borg warner turbo - Wagner Tuning Intercooler - REVO Stage 3 - Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back - 42 Draft Design Intake. courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB Time to pump once more full tank for my cars after work before price increase tomorrow. Hehehe There's a comedian in axia thread saying ron 100 is bad for the environment compared to ron 95 |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 02:25 PM) boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk You guys are not Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm. VW Golf MK6 GTI - standard ko4 borg warner turbo - Wagner Tuning Intercooler - REVO Stage 3 - Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back - 42 Draft Design Intake. courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB |
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 14 2016, 03:39 PM) I think the owner already has ron100 in the tank and it was stated the map has switchable settings.First it was dynoed using Ron97 map settings, then they switched to Ron100 map settings and ran the Dyno again. That should explain the timing of it. |
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Key word "stock tune". Even BMWs can be mapped to take advantage of the new fuel.
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Unless the ECU can automatically switch maps to take advantage of the higher octane petrol there will be no difference in performance.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 14 2016, 03:56 PM) I think the owner already has ron100 in the tank and it was stated the map has switchable settings. This makes most sense. Any cars that has been tuned to run on either Ron 95/97, be it modded tune or factory setting, pumping Ron 100 without a retune would yield very little benefit, or none at all. Smoother perhaps, but the power gain will not be noticeable by your butt dyno. Many are psychologically convinced though First it was dynoed using Ron97 map settings, then they switched to Ron100 map settings and ran the Dyno again. That should explain the timing of it. My STI which came factory tuned to run on Ron 98, has been retuned to run smoother on Ron 97 (thanks to AE Subaru). I do wish to tune it to Ron 100, but only if more and more stations have them. No point retuning, then can't find it when I need it. End up, engine being retarded all the time pumping Ron 97 with Ron 100 tuning. |
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Higher octane in RON100 means to delay something i dont remember, only high performance or turbo can take advantages of RON100 feature
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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Jan 14 2016, 05:43 PM) Higher octane in RON100 means to delay something i dont remember, only high performance or turbo can take advantages of RON100 feature To delay premature ejaculation .. sorry i mean to delay ignition timingThis post has been edited by xMika: Jan 14 2016, 06:50 PM |
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Basically those engine that run on high compression will benefits from it.
A Chevy 350 V8 will give out as much power as being turbo/supercharged provided if it has 13:1 compression, but in the same time it will need exotic fuel to prevent self detonation. |
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Pumped once more ron 100 for all my cars. Price is rm 3.20 tomorrow according to the worker
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 02:25 PM) boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk You guys are not Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm. VW Golf MK6 GTI - standard ko4 borg warner turbo - Wagner Tuning Intercooler - REVO Stage 3 - Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back - 42 Draft Design Intake. courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB Mine also last kopek isi ron100 Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 14 2016, 12:26 AM) Petron Kayu Ara will have Blaze 100. After McDs, turn down to the highway, the first petrol station. QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 14 2016, 09:42 AM) This is one at Ara Damansara, coming out from Damansara toll on the left side.. Managed to pump earlier today, thank you guys!It is directly opposite BHP n Shell station (other direction).. Before the turn to DJ traffic lights.. It is not the station beside Shell near 1U and not the station beside Centrepoint |
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Guys, the price has been adjusted now. You can read about it on #MTHRFKNWIN.
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Slightly more expensive than Vpower Racing.....still okay
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other then petron? still not avail yet?
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Anybody knows how much is the compression ratio required for RON100 to be of benefit to the engine? 13:1 and above?
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QUOTE(red4900 @ Jan 15 2016, 09:47 AM) Anybody knows how much is the compression ratio required for RON100 to be of benefit to the engine? 13:1 and above? To me personally, 10:1 and above will benefit from it As for turbo since its dynamic....even better It all boils down to the mapping of the ECU (be it stock tune/aftermarket tuned), if the map can take advantage, then the engine will benefit from it, if not.....then it's worth at least one try and be done with it This post has been edited by shinjite: Jan 15 2016, 10:08 AM |
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ahh! i thought until today....
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fuel'ed up ytd before 12am, overfilled abit so got smell inside my car. it smells abit same as the stp fuel injector cleaner (jet fuel version) i used years back, not like ordinary ron95 i usually use. do they mix with kerosene (rumors the stp jet fuel is actually kerosene)...
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Jan 15 2016, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 15 2016, 01:01 AM) Hmm not bad, not as expensive as early rumors. |
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Jan 15 2016, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(ilovemod @ Jan 15 2016, 01:55 PM) myth not confirmed. u can't take the result from a stage 2 gti with custom map, and generalized that assumption to all vw. You're right, I should be more specific It works for tuned cars, actually I should say, it works for cars that are tuned specifically to make use of Ron100 fuels. If the timing is set to just ron97, then it won't be able to take advantage of the higher octane fuel. |
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Jan 15 2016, 02:13 PM
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Local cars can use Ron100?
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Jan 15 2016, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(Yugendx @ Jan 15 2016, 02:13 PM) Your car can use any octane above what is recommended by the manufacturer. If you need RON 91, then you want to use RON 120 also can, but you don't gain any advantage except for psychological effect of using more "premium" fuel. If you want to use lower octane like RON 88 also can, but you risk engine knocking which sometimes can be totally eliminated by retarding ignition timing, adjusting the valve timing.. of course you need a standalone ECU, factory ECU re-map or a piggyback ECU system to do this. My engine states it needs RON 97 but we tuned it to run with RON 95 with marginal difference in power. |
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Jan 15 2016, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jan 15 2016, 03:22 PM) Your car can use any octane above what is recommended by the manufacturer. If you need RON 91, then you want to use RON 120 also can, but you don't gain any advantage except for psychological effect of using more "premium" fuel. If you want to use lower octane like RON 88 also can, but you risk engine knocking which sometimes can be totally eliminated by retarding ignition timing, adjusting the valve timing.. of course you need a standalone ECU, factory ECU re-map or a piggyback ECU system to do this. My engine states it needs RON 97 but we tuned it to run with RON 95 with marginal difference in power. |
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Jan 15 2016, 10:36 PM
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today vpower racing advertising everywhere, from newspaper to radio...
mozact89 you use vpower racing before? compare this ron100 which 1 more powerful? |
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Jan 15 2016, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 15 2016, 10:36 PM) today vpower racing advertising everywhere, from newspaper to radio... Im seldom use vpower. Last time i use, for long travel kl-jb. But 4 people in the car. So i cant compare much..mozact89 you use vpower racing before? compare this ron100 which 1 more powerful? But this ron100 i feel my engine more ringan.. |
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Jan 16 2016, 11:05 AM
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All those people who feel a difference in engine feel is a combination of 2 things.
1. psychological 2. better additive package. Elaborating on no.2, Petron will definitely use a much much much better additivie package for ROn100, better cleaning, better friction modifier, better everything compared to the regular 95 and 97. This ensures a 'more power' feeling even if no effect is obtained from higher RON rating. It's very clever marketing |
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Jan 16 2016, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 16 2016, 11:05 AM) All those people who feel a difference in engine feel is a combination of 2 things. Someone already prove it on dyno machine.. Gain 14hp on moded car..1. psychological 2. better additive package. Elaborating on no.2, Petron will definitely use a much much much better additivie package for ROn100, better cleaning, better friction modifier, better everything compared to the regular 95 and 97. This ensures a 'more power' feeling even if no effect is obtained from higher RON rating. It's very clever marketing |
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Jan 16 2016, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 16 2016, 11:26 AM) MODED carthat's a whole different game you're talking, it is known RON100 does help on higher performance cars. they can push the envelope further. bog standard cars , with all the emission nannies enabled won't see a difference |
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Jan 16 2016, 12:04 PM
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Jan 16 2016, 02:14 PM
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The price difference alone will stop most motorists from trying anyway
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Jan 16 2016, 04:31 PM
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Ron100 can be compress more, so it will benefit performance car and turbo charged cars. Regular cars won't get any obvious performance boost.
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Jan 16 2016, 04:37 PM
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All in all, RON100 is only for premium cars.
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Jan 16 2016, 05:10 PM
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Oh the comedian has appeared in this thread too
He said pumping ron 100 and ron 97 will harm the environment compared to ron 95 |
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Jan 16 2016, 05:36 PM
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Anyway this is additional info, those with petron Miles card will get 200% points. They didn't promote this so I don't know until when.
Mine 40L rm112 and I got 224 points |
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Jan 16 2016, 06:33 PM
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Haha time 4 me 2 find used BMW to try this power ron 100
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Jan 16 2016, 06:38 PM
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Jan 17 2016, 09:24 AM
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only a moron pump to his/her normal,daily car like myvi
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Jan 17 2016, 11:50 AM
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My ckd car only need 95 minimum.
I rather fill 95 caltex or bhp which have good cleaning addictive. Extra money i saved can buy a cigarette |
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Jan 17 2016, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 16 2016, 04:31 PM) Ron100 can be compress more, so it will benefit performance car and turbo charged cars. Regular cars won't get any obvious performance boost. To be correct , turbo PERFORMANCE cars also . Normal turbo for efficiency also won't benefit it.QUOTE(ZurichVictorT @ Jan 16 2016, 04:37 PM) Again to be accurate , it's for engines that are designed to run it, not necessarily premium cars in fact most premium cars can run as low as 90 |
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Jan 17 2016, 09:28 PM
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hm.. i don't trust Philippine company... how you know one day they just change sticker/brand is actually RON97... put RON100 so can charge RM2.80 pre liter.
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Jan 17 2016, 10:32 PM
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i just one GTi fuel up this one at Sg Besi... onwer must be first timer tried it coz i saw him took the pic of the noozle while fueling
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Jan 18 2016, 03:04 AM
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Jan 18 2016, 03:13 AM
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not suid for old car, japan car, normal car ot godcar...dont wasting ur money use this fuel
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Jan 18 2016, 04:18 AM
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Hi guys,just sharing testimoni.!!
my myvi 1.3 2009 pump this fuel ron 100. The engine is smoother and the fuel consumption decrease. i tested it just now when i go back to Melaka, i only use 15km/l and i was on full throttle all the way. If i use ron 95, my fuel consumption will be about 11km/l or so.. tq, just end of my ron100 story. |
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Jan 18 2016, 06:01 AM
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Jan 18 2016, 08:28 AM
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Got money uselah
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Jan 18 2016, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 04:18 AM) Hi guys,just sharing testimoni.!! Bro... cannot compare city/town driving in heavy stop/go traffic fuel consumption with smooth highway la...my myvi 1.3 2009 pump this fuel ron 100. The engine is smoother and the fuel consumption decrease. i tested it just now when i go back to Melaka, i only use 15km/l and i was on full throttle all the way. If i use ron 95, my fuel consumption will be about 11km/l or so.. tq, just end of my ron100 story. |
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Jan 18 2016, 09:34 AM
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Here the comments still okay compared to the FB comments.....really no eye see some of them
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Jan 18 2016, 09:45 AM
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after using ron100, no more knocking on my gen2 campro engine. this engine usually will have slight pinging/knocking on acceleration. i never pump ron97 so i don't know if ron97 also eliminate this pinging/knocking. but i saw older post gen2 year 2004-2006 many gen2 owner complain this knocking which is still on ron97...
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Jan 18 2016, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 04:18 AM) Hi guys,just sharing testimoni.!! Your engine got well maintain or not? Carbon build up inside the engine will cause early detonation. My Axia can also run 15km/L with Ron95 from JB to Senai.my myvi 1.3 2009 pump this fuel ron 100. The engine is smoother and the fuel consumption decrease. i tested it just now when i go back to Melaka, i only use 15km/l and i was on full throttle all the way. If i use ron 95, my fuel consumption will be about 11km/l or so.. tq, just end of my ron100 story. |
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Jan 18 2016, 10:05 AM
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I just wonder why people are amazed by the benefit of RON100.
A product that appear in the market to fit on some purpose. IF it doesn't, why on earth the company do so? Simply because earn too much money and need a way to waste it? Yeah, tonnes of article circulating the internet, giving both side the equal support. To all those that butthurt so much, pls get over it. Either forget about it, or go tune your butt to feel the awesomeness of RON100. Internet huh |
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Jan 18 2016, 10:34 AM
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Bragging rights mah for using Ron100. Fun to read and poke fun at 'em.
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Jan 18 2016, 10:59 AM
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Jan 18 2016, 04:14 PM
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No need to bash. If you want to use RON100, then use lah. If you don't want to use RON100, then don't use lah.
Personally, after trying out RON100 for 2.5 weeks, I do feel slight improvements on stock map. But, for me, not worth the 55 sen premium over RON97, so I will stick back with my RON97 map. |
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Jan 18 2016, 04:21 PM
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actually which car in Malaysia really need RON100 as min?
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Jan 18 2016, 04:49 PM
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If ppl want to pump ron 100 on their daily rides, why stop them? It's their money
Not like some stupid anime nerd here who said filling up ron 100 will be harmful for the environment Biggest joke of 2016 |
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Jan 18 2016, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 18 2016, 04:55 PM) To answer your question, there are no cars sold in Malaysia that needs RON100 on their stock settings. since no car really need this RON100, but why still argue about better or not to the car...All should think and argue why they implement this RON100 in Malaysia? any hidden reason in behind? |
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Jan 18 2016, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:26 PM) since no car really need this RON100, but why still argue about better or not to the car... money, it's a niche market to tap in to that has been monopolized by Shell all this while. All should think and argue why they implement this RON100 in Malaysia? any hidden reason in behind? Eventhough almost no car required ROn100, there are bucket bucket loads off syiok sendiri who feel they will benefit immensely from it. So why not, it advertises itself from the ignorance and misinformation of consumers how much more better can it get? |
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Jan 18 2016, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 18 2016, 05:34 PM) money, it's a niche market to tap in to that has been monopolized by Shell all this while. Why gov let it? Or Najib have share in this thing?Eventhough almost no car required ROn100, there are bucket bucket loads off syiok sendiri who feel they will benefit immensely from it. So why not, it advertises itself from the ignorance and misinformation of consumers how much more better can it get? cause this will cost more Ringgit flow out of the country right? But Malaysia really many syiok sendiri people. lol |
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Jan 18 2016, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:26 PM) since no car really need this RON100, but why still argue about better or not to the car... No one needs LV/Prada/Gucci/Hermes when recycle bags can achieve the same purpose. Why need 10mbps internet when 1mbps also works? Why introduce 30mbps if 10mbps also does the same thing? Your question sways in that direction. All should think and argue why they implement this RON100 in Malaysia? any hidden reason in behind? Exactly why a higher octane fuel was introduced. Some tuned cars can also take advantage of this higher octane fuel. Some shiok sendiri. Whatever it is, I personally think it is a good time for someone to come up and rival Shell's VPR. If you are a regular user of VPR (for whatever the reason), an additional 15 sen for RON100 does not sound like a bad idea at all. |
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Jan 18 2016, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:39 PM) Why gov let it? Or Najib have share in this thing? it's a free market lah, nobody can force them to pump ROn100 , not even RON97 can anyone force you to pumpcause this will cost more Ringgit flow out of the country right? But Malaysia really many syiok sendiri people. lol so what is there to block ? no, ringgit won't flow out, because petron buys the base stock from our refineries and add in the octance boosters to bring it to RON100. |
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Jan 18 2016, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 18 2016, 05:42 PM) it's a free market lah, nobody can force them to pump ROn100 , not even RON97 can anyone force you to pump Cause Malaysia gov control what petrol and price selling in Malaysia.so what is there to block ? no, ringgit won't flow out, because petron buys the base stock from our refineries and add in the octance boosters to bring it to RON100. So the RON100 is not refine at other country? icic i wonder, do higher RON rating mean better quality petrol? |
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Jan 18 2016, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:45 PM) Cause Malaysia gov control what petrol and price selling in Malaysia. Nah of course not , these are low volume sellers you think they would spend to have tanker specially bring in petrol ? So the RON100 is not refine at other country? icic i wonder, do higher RON rating mean better quality petrol? Octane boosters have long been around just now they put it into the fuel for you |
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:45 PM) Cause Malaysia gov control what petrol and price selling in Malaysia. Petron's refinery are not big enough to give full product supply to Malaysian market.So the RON100 is not refine at other country? icic i wonder, do higher RON rating mean better quality petrol? Initially they was taking from Petronas which causing Petronas to suffer lost last year. Now they are buying from open market on the products, whoever that offering cheap products, they will just take. RON is just a small aspect in a petrol's quality, the RVP, distillation and other properties are equally important. For me I'll just use normal RON95 and buy some industrial grade ethanol(RON100-105) or toluene and pour 500-1000ml to the petrol tank on each fill up. Higher RON do bring some effect to our engine especially on higher rpm, like at 4000rpm using RON95 your engine sounds rough, using RON100 maybe your engine will sound rough at 5000rpm. This post has been edited by supersound: Jan 18 2016, 08:28 PM |
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 08:25 PM) hahahahahah if pump at myvi .. imagine the Myvi 1.5 cc , after pump ron 100 it will become myvi 2.0 cc ... extra fast but i don't see the point for introduce this ron 100 in the market .. since we are not allow to drive as fast as we want @.@ .. as we might kena saman if unlucky .. |
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aiyo, i don't understand why got ppl shoot here and there on this ron 100? isn't Petron at Philippine already selling Ron100 since years ago? If not mistaken they have 4 variant if different Ron just for Petrol alone. Isn't that it's better if we have more choice, say Ron92?
On side note seriously my gen2 no more knocking on this Ron100 petrol, just now i purposely on aircond and climb slope to listen for any obvious knocking noise (trademark of gen2 since 2004). too bad it's RM2.80 so i will not going to use it anymore (if it was Rm2.25 I will still support it). |
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Jan 18 2016, 10:43 PM
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Tested ron 100 on a Volkswagen..
Love the feeling compared to ron 97 |
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Jan 19 2016, 08:27 AM
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really many shiok sendiri with RON100, lol.....
dunno really trolling or what.... hahaha...... |
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 19 2016, 09:03 AM) Ron100 just came out. All stock cars even the premium one requires min RON97. Putting RON100 may not get that additional boost. Grey import bro.That were times when type R is not in the official offerings of Malaysia Honda. IINM, type R only introduced a year after the ordinary civic were launched, around 10 years back? This post has been edited by JunJun04035: Jan 19 2016, 09:26 AM |
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Axia with ron 100, got add power or not.
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 19 2016, 09:59 AM) Cars sold in Malaysia. Not grey import. Cars that are sold by authorized dealers in Malaysia all do not need to run on RON100. FD2R came CBU with recommendation to run RON 100, sold by Honda Malaysia. However, it will still run on RON 97, though with slight retardation. When custom tuning was done with mods, the tuning was also done with RON 97 since that was the highest available. My current 2015 STI, sold by Auth Dealer Motor Image, came recommended to run on RON 98. Now retuned to run on RON 97 for more efficiency.Most cars can still run on RON 97, even if the recommendation is higher. The only setback is, the car generates lesser power at certain range. However, cars that came factory tuned to run lower RON, pumping higher RON rating does not necessarily equate to more power. This is something people still fail to understand. Thus, it is not that it DOES not need. It is preferred if factory tune came with it. No one buys a performance car, only to pump lower RON octane to generate lesser power by saving petrol money. If want to save petrol money, don't buy performance cars that came recommended with Ron 97 and above. I laugh when I read an FD2R owner wanted to tune his car to run on RON 95. Get a normal FD if that's the case ... Most VW are not performance cars, hence they came factory tuned to run on RON 95, to appeal to a bigger pool of potential buyers. You may then rechip/remap to run on RON 97, and it will net more power. Just don't drop back to RON 95 with RON 97 map. I cannot say the same for GTI/GTI-R since I do not know what it was recommended to run on. I would like to know. |
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McFD2R interesting and thanks for the info. I wonder if only the CTR and STI are the only cars sold locally by ADs where stock tunes required gas higher than RON 97?
VWs, even the GTI and R, are recommended to run on RON 95. Some owners later tune to run on RON 97. Most performance VWs (ahem - Audi (R8), Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini) are recommended to run on RON 97. |
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most mindfuk comments i've heard
'gomen shouldn't allow RON100, it's just add to burden of people' waffak? |
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 19 2016, 03:45 PM) McFD2R interesting and thanks for the info. I wonder if only the CTR and STI are the only cars sold locally by ADs where stock tunes required gas higher than RON 97? My STI fuel lid.VWs, even the GTI and R, are recommended to run on RON 95. Some owners later tune to run on RON 97. Most performance VWs (ahem - Audi (R8), Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini) are recommended to run on RON 97. ![]() Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try .. ![]() |
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Jan 19 2016, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Jan 19 2016, 05:51 PM) My STI fuel lid. There should be difference in the mid to high range I think![]() Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try .. ![]() |
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Jan 19 2016, 11:51 PM
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Jan 20 2016, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Jan 19 2016, 05:51 PM) My STI fuel lid. Share with us the outcome. I have a 2014 legacy and wanted to try this ron100. However, the fuel cap info says to fill with ron95 ONLY! ![]() Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try .. ![]() Previously my ver10 (also bought from MI) states RON 95 MIN! So, that one I can try different RON categories. |
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Jan 20 2016, 08:55 AM
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Jan 20 2016, 09:47 AM
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Jan 20 2016, 09:54 AM
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Jan 20 2016, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jan 20 2016, 06:23 AM) Share with us the outcome. I have a 2014 legacy and wanted to try this ron100. However, the fuel cap info says to fill with ron95 ONLY! Can fill ron95 and above.Previously my ver10 (also bought from MI) states RON 95 MIN! So, that one I can try different RON categories. The question is what octane fuel is the ECU is optimized for. Stock cars are tuned to accept a range variety (min - max), if it is localized for Malaysia, then the minimal range should start from 92 (for older cars) to 97. Therefore, pumping ron100 will yield little to no additional benefits. |
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Jan 20 2016, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 20 2016, 09:57 AM) Can fill ron95 and above. i believe so too but the fuel cap indicates RON 95 ONLY. So, it's ok la... just follow it The question is what octane fuel is the ECU is optimized for. Stock cars are tuned to accept a range variety (min - max), if it is localized for Malaysia, then the minimal range should start from 92 (for older cars) to 97. Therefore, pumping ron100 will yield little to no additional benefits. |
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Jan 20 2016, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(char_les @ Jan 20 2016, 09:47 AM) i checked myvi Ezi guidebook, it states anything above RON 90 ~ so, i interpret as RON 95, 97, even 100 are all compatible, right? You are right. Compatible? yes. Necessary? No. QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jan 20 2016, 10:54 AM) I believe it meant to use at least RON 95. Anything lower just increase the risk of engine knocking.As for myself, it's been erratic on my power band. I'm waiting to finish up the current fill, and refill one more time for a more consistent effect. Need more mileage on it for a more accurate review. Weekend car doesn't help with mileage .. |
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Jan 20 2016, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Jan 20 2016, 12:18 PM) As for myself, it's been erratic on my power band. I'm waiting to finish up the current fill, and refill one more time for a more consistent effect. Need more mileage on it for a more accurate review. Weekend car doesn't help with mileage .. Weekend car = 5000rpm and above |
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Jan 20 2016, 02:08 PM
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Jan 20 2016, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 20 2016, 09:57 AM) Can fill ron95 and above. I believe cars are tuned to only one RON rating, not a range of them. You can use petrol with that RON or higher but not lower. Using a higher RON petrol has no benefit but won't harm the engine either. Using a lower RON risk engine knocking.The question is what octane fuel is the ECU is optimized for. Stock cars are tuned to accept a range variety (min - max), if it is localized for Malaysia, then the minimal range should start from 92 (for older cars) to 97. Therefore, pumping ron100 will yield little to no additional benefits. |
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Jan 21 2016, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Jan 20 2016, 07:07 PM) I believe cars are tuned to only one RON rating, not a range of them. You can use petrol with that RON or higher but not lower. Using a higher RON petrol has no benefit but won't harm the engine either. Using a lower RON risk engine knocking. New generation car engines will compensate when detect a knock.Higher ron fuel is actually harder to burn, so putting into a regular car will create more hydrocarbon than usual. It is not known for all car models though. This post has been edited by jasonhanjk: Jan 21 2016, 09:35 AM |
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Jan 21 2016, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 21 2016, 09:32 AM) New generation car engines will compensate when detect a knock. Not harder to burn.. it is more resistant to self ignition.. so that it does not prematurely detonate before the spark plugs ignites it. Once the spark plug fires and there is a source of ignition, the RON 100 will burn just like any other fuel.Higher ron fuel is actually harder to burn, so putting into a regular car will create more hydrocarbon than usual. It is not known for all car models though. |
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Jan 22 2016, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 21 2016, 05:02 PM) Not harder to burn.. it is more resistant to self ignition.. so that it does not prematurely detonate before the spark plugs ignites it. Once the spark plug fires and there is a source of ignition, the RON 100 will burn just like any other fuel. The early detonation is due to heat, caused by compressing air and fuel. Higher ron can withstand higher temperature before it ignites. Because it is "harder" to burn, regular cars using premium fuel will produce more hydrocarbon. Some cars may even get less power with premium fuel. |
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Jan 22 2016, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 22 2016, 01:39 PM) The early detonation is due to heat, caused by compressing air and fuel. Higher ron can withstand higher temperature before it ignites. Because it is "harder" to burn, regular cars using premium fuel will produce more hydrocarbon. Some cars may even get less power with premium fuel. Harder to burn WITHOUT ignition source. Once you light it with spark, it burns like lower RON fuels. The harder to burn part does not matter when there is an ignition source. Cars that don't need premium fuel might get less power is not because the fuel is harder to burn but higher octane means more 'hydrocarbon' addictive added to the fuel and the fuel no longer produces the same amount of energy. The fuel still burns but produces less energy than a lower RON fuel. Maybe in other languages they use the word 'harder to burn' as to say it produces less power. If that's the case I don't speak the other languages so well and won't argue with you on that. |
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Jan 22 2016, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 22 2016, 01:39 PM) The early detonation is due to heat, caused by compressing air and fuel. Higher ron can withstand higher temperature before it ignites. Because it is "harder" to burn, regular cars using premium fuel will produce more hydrocarbon. Some cars may even get less power with premium fuel. I'm sceptical about the hydrocarbon part.... the amount of hydrocarbon in a given volume of petrol is fixed, how does regular cars product "more" hydrocarbons from burning the same volume of said petrol. |
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Jan 22 2016, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jan 22 2016, 02:03 PM) I'm sceptical about the hydrocarbon part.... the amount of hydrocarbon in a given volume of petrol is fixed, how does regular cars product "more" hydrocarbons from burning the same volume of said petrol. He is coming from the point that they have to put more hydrocarbons in it to up the RON.. which is also why higher RON petrol does not produce the same amount of power as lower ron since there is 'more' hydrocarbons per part of fuel. |
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Jan 22 2016, 04:01 PM
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No need to make things more complicated.
An engine which is already optimized/tuned to produce the best performance for example at RON97 will not yield any additional benefit when running higher RON than 97, so no need to waste your money buying RON100, just as simple as that. If an engine is tuned to perform the best at RON100 then it would not give it's best by using just RON97 and therefore just go ahead and try the RON100 as it should give better performance. If an engine is say optimized for RON98 then what you can do is mix RON100 with either 95 or 97 using just simple ratio to get RON98, then that should give you the best performance already, no need to fill up full with RON100. |
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Jan 26 2016, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jan 22 2016, 02:03 PM) I'm sceptical about the hydrocarbon part.... the amount of hydrocarbon in a given volume of petrol is fixed, how does regular cars product "more" hydrocarbons from burning the same volume of said petrol. When you burn hydrocarbon, the waste gases will be CO2, CO, H2O and hydrocarbon.Vehicles will not completely burn the fuel so there bound to have some hydrocarbon being release to the atmosphere. Putting higher ron into an engine that's not meant to will result in more hydrocarbon being release into the atmosphere, the burning is more efficient with lower ron rating. This post has been edited by jasonhanjk: Jan 26 2016, 05:14 PM |
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 22 2016, 02:25 PM) He is coming from the point that they have to put more hydrocarbons in it to up the RON.. which is also why higher RON petrol does not produce the same amount of power as lower ron since there is 'more' hydrocarbons per part of fuel. You do know hydrocarbon exist in gas and liquid. Both Ron95 and Ron100 have almost the same equivalent energy content. So their hydrocarbon content will not differ significantly. The main difference is in the exhaust. The less efficient you can fully burn the fuel, the more hydrocarbons will be release to the atmosphere.Do note that I did not mention more hydrocarbon in the fuel. Till date I always mention the exhaust unless I miss out mentioning it. |
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Jan 26 2016, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 26 2016, 05:13 PM) When you burn hydrocarbon, the waste gases will be CO2, CO, H2O and hydrocarbon. A few post ahead mentioned that RON is just an indicator to the resistance to uncontrolled self ignition of fuel in the engine. How efficient in burning the fuel really depends of a lot of other factors plays a bigger role like fuel mixture, piston head design, spark plug design etc. For example if you tune an engine rich, the potential of hydrocarbon release in the exhaust stream will be more than a lean tune. That is when you can see flame coming out of the exhaust. Regardless of what RON rating fuel used.Vehicles will not completely burn the fuel so there bound to have some hydrocarbon being release to the atmosphere. Putting higher ron into an engine that's not meant to will result in more hydrocarbon being release into the atmosphere, the burning is more efficient with lower ron rating. |
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Feb 3 2016, 11:49 AM
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Does anyone know how much is ron 100 now?
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Feb 3 2016, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Feb 3 2016, 11:49 AM) Based on latest pricing, it should drop 20 cents as well, I am expecting it to be at RM 2.60/L but this is RON 100 not 97 so yeah....Another way is to go to the petrol station itself to check This post has been edited by shinjite: Feb 3 2016, 03:27 PM |
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 22 2016, 01:39 PM) The early detonation is due to heat, caused by compressing air and fuel. Higher ron can withstand higher temperature before it ignites. Because it is "harder" to burn, regular cars using premium fuel will produce more hydrocarbon. Some cars may even get less power with premium fuel. Dont spread misinformation to people when you don't know jack shit how things work. A RON number is not a measure of the fuels calorific or energy value. It is a standard the petroleum industry uses to quantify the anti-knocking properties of a fuel.A RON90 fuel corresponds to a fuel with the same anti-knock ability as equivalent 90% vol of iso-octane (which is a component in gasoline usually added to raise the knock resistance). Think of an explosion as a series of successive chain reaction. When you add long chain branched hydrocarbon (such as iso-octane), the chain reaction propogation is harder because long chain branched hydrocarbon are harder to break which essentially kill off your chain reaction (no chain reaction, no detonation). Methanol, ethanol, MTBE are all anti-knock agents that the petroleum industry add to fuel. The energy or calorific value of fuel is an important fuel specification and the industry blends the fuel with additive and chemicals to get the required spec. This post has been edited by 779364: Feb 3 2016, 08:24 PM |
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Feb 3 2016, 09:54 PM
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Just wondering,
What is the color of RON 100 fuel? Isit same with 97? 97 - RED V-Power - Blue 95 - Gold/Yellow |
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QUOTE(779364 @ Feb 3 2016, 08:19 PM) Dont spread misinformation to people when you don't know jack shit how things work. A RON number is not a measure of the fuels calorific or energy value. It is a standard the petroleum industry uses to quantify the anti-knocking properties of a fuel. Pls don't mind him bro..A RON90 fuel corresponds to a fuel with the same anti-knock ability as equivalent 90% vol of iso-octane (which is a component in gasoline usually added to raise the knock resistance). Think of an explosion as a series of successive chain reaction. When you add long chain branched hydrocarbon (such as iso-octane), the chain reaction propogation is harder because long chain branched hydrocarbon are harder to break which essentially kill off your chain reaction (no chain reaction, no detonation). Methanol, ethanol, MTBE are all anti-knock agents that the petroleum industry add to fuel. The energy or calorific value of fuel is an important fuel specification and the industry blends the fuel with additive and chemicals to get the required spec. He said in axia thread that pumping ron 100 will damage n is harmful for the environment compared to ron 95 I challenged him n said ron 95 is euro 2 petrol while ron 97 n 100 is euro 4 petrol How can it be more harmful for the environment when there is less sulphur n gas emission? He didn't even dare to respond after that A lot of weirdos n "car experts " in lyn forum This post has been edited by -PuPu^ZaPruD3r-: Feb 3 2016, 10:56 PM |
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QUOTE(779364 @ Feb 3 2016, 08:19 PM) Dont spread misinformation to people when you don't know jack shit how things work. A RON number is not a measure of the fuels calorific or energy value. It is a standard the petroleum industry uses to quantify the anti-knocking properties of a fuel. Produce more hydrocarbons in terms of exhaust gas. You miss reading one of the later post.A RON90 fuel corresponds to a fuel with the same anti-knock ability as equivalent 90% vol of iso-octane (which is a component in gasoline usually added to raise the knock resistance). Think of an explosion as a series of successive chain reaction. When you add long chain branched hydrocarbon (such as iso-octane), the chain reaction propogation is harder because long chain branched hydrocarbon are harder to break which essentially kill off your chain reaction (no chain reaction, no detonation). Methanol, ethanol, MTBE are all anti-knock agents that the petroleum industry add to fuel. The energy or calorific value of fuel is an important fuel specification and the industry blends the fuel with additive and chemicals to get the required spec. |
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Feb 3 2016, 10:55 PM) Pls don't mind him bro.. After I gave you that video of higher hydrocarbon emission and you end up diam diam. He said in axia thread that pumping ron 100 will damage n is harmful for the environment compared to ron 95 I challenged him n said ron 95 is euro 2 petrol while ron 97 n 100 is euro 4 petrol How can it be more harmful for the environment when there is less sulphur n gas emission? He didn't even dare to respond after that A lot of weirdos n "car experts " in lyn forum A few of us already boycott you in Axia thread but please continue, it's boring without a joker. |
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Feb 15 2016, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Feb 15 2016, 02:07 PM) After I gave you that video of higher hydrocarbon emission and you end up diam diam. Whatever nerd, u r probably jealous of my ride(s) A few of us already boycott you in Axia thread but please continue, it's boring without a joker. This post has been edited by -PuPu^ZaPruD3r-: Feb 15 2016, 02:21 PM |
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Feb 15 2016, 03:29 PM
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Apr 7 2016, 08:55 AM
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Will give it a try tomorrow. After all this while always in for V-Power Racing. Hope can see an improvements. If not, stick with v-power racing hehe
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Apr 7 2016, 09:36 AM
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FUYOHHHH... MY KANCIL CAN DO 200KM/H WITH RON100...!!
I CAN'T WAIT FOR RON120..!! |
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Apr 7 2016, 11:29 AM
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Apr 7 2016, 07:39 PM
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good for performance car and naik genting or hill road
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Apr 7 2016, 07:51 PM
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Just pump in half Ron 10 plus existing v power racing. So far smoother hehehe.
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