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post Jan 11 2016, 05:41 PM, updated 10y ago

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Please read, Isit any good ah? compare with current RON97

http://www.sini.com.my/business/sales/lgms...ail/14000006693

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post Jan 11 2016, 06:21 PM

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i guess it is better for the bugatti veyron...

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post Jan 11 2016, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Jan 11 2016, 05:41 PM)
Please read, Isit any good ah? compare with current RON97
http://v2.sini.com.my/business/car/car_sal...eqid=9000006123
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Only if your cars require RON higher than 97.
Just he same like asking if RON97 is good or not, it's good only for cars requiring RON higher than 95. smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2016, 10:30 PM

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Which Petron station in klang valley has it?

Also how much per litre?
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post Jan 11 2016, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 11 2016, 10:30 PM)
Which  Petron station in klang valley has it?

Also how much  per litre?
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Not yet available..

It will be >RM3

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post Jan 11 2016, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 11 2016, 10:30 PM)
Which  Petron station in klang valley has it?

Also how much  per litre?
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Since we were advised against linking to Paultan, it's better you look there for the 6 stations in Klang Valley which offer RON100. Intro price same as RON97.

Unless you have turbo or super charged engine, I doubt will feel anything.
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QUOTE(waiora_protuner @ Jan 11 2016, 10:32 PM)
Not yet available..

It will be >RM3
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 11 2016, 10:43 PM)
Since we were advised against linking to Paultan, it's better you look there for the 6 stations in Klang Valley which offer RON100. Intro price same as RON97.

Unless you have turbo or super charged engine, I doubt will feel anything.
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Thanks for both your replies. Will check n see p**lt*n smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2016, 11:48 PM

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If really same price as ron 97, I would like to try it out. Saw the comments in fb n pault page, but nothing on pricing
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 11 2016, 11:48 PM)
If really same price as ron 97, I  would like to try it out. Saw the comments in fb n pault page, but nothing on pricing
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Same price as 97 until 15 Jan, after that they will launch officially and price will increase
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post Jan 12 2016, 12:06 AM

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Saya sudah.. Anda bila lagi?? Kih kih kih
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 12 2016, 12:06 AM)
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Saya sudah.. Anda bila lagi?? Kih kih kih
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Kasi FR biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(feralee @ Jan 12 2016, 07:56 AM)
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FR or FL?
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bro mozact, any difference kah?
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Later I will go refuel and see too smile.gif
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post Jan 12 2016, 09:49 AM

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i heard the octane is quite high, so its mostly for high performance engine maybe
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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Jan 12 2016, 09:49 AM)
i heard the octane is quite high, so its mostly for high performance engine maybe
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Yes only for high performance vehicles, normal road car will hardly benefit from it plus the pricing alone will stop most motorists from trying it
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 11 2016, 11:54 PM)
Same price as 97 until 15 Jan, after that they will launch officially and price will increase
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Ok thanks for the info bro smile.gif

QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 12 2016, 12:06 AM)
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Rm 2.25?? How is it bro ?
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QUOTE(pai3355 @ Jan 12 2016, 09:08 AM)
bro mozact, any difference kah?
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 12 2016, 09:59 AM)
Ok thanks for the info bro smile.gif
Rm 2.25?? How is it bro ?
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Im upgrade from 97. What i can say, more responsive. 100-140kmh is easier on gear D6. No need to drop to D5. I test after the sg besi Plus toll.
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 12 2016, 12:19 PM)
Im upgrade from 97. What i can say, more responsive. 100-140kmh is easier on gear D6. No need to drop to D5. I test after the sg besi Plus toll.
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Is it RM 2.25?

Wow, gatal now.. Can't wait to pump it tonight smile.gif
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Only tuned engines or performance cars will benefit from the high octane rating of the fuel.

However, to really notice the difference, one will have to ensure the petrol within the car tank no longer carries Ron95 or Ron97 fuels. So an accurate report will only be available once someone has pumped in the 2nd or 3rd consecutive tank of Ron100 petrol.
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 12 2016, 12:29 PM)
Is it RM 2.25?

Wow, gatal now.. Can't wait to pump it tonight smile.gif
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2.25 until 15 jan. After that maybe 3.2
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 12 2016, 01:24 PM)
2.25 until 15 jan. After that maybe 3.2
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Wow... thanks for the info bro smile.gif
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 12 2016, 12:57 PM)
Only tuned engines or performance cars will benefit from the high octane rating of the  fuel.

However, to really notice the difference, one will have to ensure the petrol within the car tank no longer carries Ron95 or Ron97 fuels. So an accurate report will only be available once someone has pumped in the 2nd or 3rd consecutive tank of Ron100 petrol.
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Most will not realize that is the additives in the fuel that giving you the impression of extra power and/or mileage
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post Jan 12 2016, 03:43 PM

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Only well benefit engines with high compression engines like Toyota 86 or Civic Type R. Butt dyno may tell you differently lol
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 12 2016, 03:06 PM)
Most will not realize that is the additives in the fuel that giving you the impression of extra power and/or mileage
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Supposedly and I think this applies to all the German marques (BMW, Mercedes, Audi, VW, possibly Ford), the engines are tuned for Ron98. Using a lower octane fuel means the engine will retard itself to prevent knocking, meaning lower performance numbers and I THINK all the engines are shipped from Germany or from some factory located in EU. I do not think they are specially programmed or tuned to use our fuels here as evidenced from some of the dyno charts I've seen.

It's definitely in the best interest of these owners to pump in Ron100 as this should allow them to bring out the best in their engine.
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WAH LAU EHHH.... I PUMP RON100 SUDDENLY MY MYVI FEES LIKE GOT TURBOCHARGER & SMOOTH LIKE V6.

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Boost RON can get toluene, ethanol, some more better as they are solvent based and can clean the injection heads. This is what petrol can't do.
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 12 2016, 01:24 PM)
2.25 until 15 jan. After that maybe 3.2
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RM3.20/L?
I thought its around 3.40/L haha
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 12 2016, 12:57 PM)
Only tuned engines or performance cars will benefit from the high octane rating of the  fuel.

However, to really notice the difference, one will have to ensure the petrol within the car tank no longer carries Ron95 or Ron97 fuels. So an accurate report will only be available once someone has pumped in the 2nd or 3rd consecutive tank of Ron100 petrol.
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pump and reset ECU for it to relearn...
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QUOTE(MEngineer @ Jan 12 2016, 03:43 PM)
Only well benefit engines with high compression engines like Toyota 86 or Civic Type R. Butt dyno may tell you differently lol
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So...will Mazda Skyactiv engine benefit from it? If I not mistaken, their Skyactiv-G engine uses high compression ratio, no?
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QUOTE(red4900 @ Jan 12 2016, 06:26 PM)
So...will Mazda Skyactiv engine benefit from it? If I not mistaken, their Skyactiv-G engine uses high compression ratio, no?
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Technically it should benefit - the Skyactiv engines that is - it all depends on how they tuned the engine for the local market.

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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 12 2016, 01:24 PM)
2.25 until 15 jan. After that maybe 3.2
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Is it really ron100 or actually still ron97, just the floor already painted 100? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 12 2016, 09:53 AM)
Yes only for high performance vehicles, normal road car will hardly benefit from it plus the pricing alone will stop most motorists from trying it
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How is the performance?
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My car feel very fast now... wink.gif
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QUOTE(red4900 @ Jan 12 2016, 06:26 PM)
So...will Mazda Skyactiv engine benefit from it? If I not mistaken, their Skyactiv-G engine uses high compression ratio, no?
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Yes it will also benefit from the higher RON fuel.
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4g92 mivec wil be get full potential of the engine power when pump ron100...since the data 175hp quote from mitsubishi was using ron100 if not mistaken
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Finally found the ron 100 petrol in pj after spending 30 min searching high n low for it

Went to taman tun petron but got cheated as don't have

Went to bu area n found 3 petron. Luckily the third one has it...

Didn't get chance to test the performance as roads were filled with cars
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 12 2016, 10:48 PM)
Finally found  the ron 100 petrol  in pj after  spending 30 min searching  high n low for it

Went to taman tun petron but got cheated as don't  have

Went to bu area  n found 3 petron. Luckily  the third one has it...

Didn't  get chance to test the performance as roads were filled with cars
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When you refueled, it has the sticker of Blaze 100/97?
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Petron will slowly be adding the Blaze 100 stickers over the existing Blaze 97 at the selected stations. Nozzle will remain green. Btw, most parking attendants only say that its not available at the selected stations yet - but you're actually getting it if you pump Blaze 97.
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Can Nissan Skyline R35 drink this ron100 ? brows.gif brows.gif
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due to its high performance & turbo engine of course la can drink
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 12 2016, 10:48 PM)
Finally found  the ron 100 petrol  in pj after  spending 30 min searching  high n low for it

Went to taman tun petron but got cheated as don't  have

Went to bu area  n found 3 petron. Luckily  the third one has it...

Didn't  get chance to test the performance as roads were filled with cars
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bro, where u pump near bu area,
is it the 2 stations located near centerpoint?

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Petron Kayu Ara will have Blaze 100. After McDs, turn down to the highway, the first petrol station.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 13 2016, 09:09 AM)
When you refueled, it has the sticker of Blaze 100/97?
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It has Blaze 97.. they haven't change the sticker.. but the floor is RON 100
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QUOTE(yh28 @ Jan 13 2016, 08:45 PM)
bro, where u pump near bu area,
is it the 2 stations located near centerpoint?
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This is one at Ara Damansara, coming out from Damansara toll on the left side..

It is directly opposite BHP n Shell station (other direction)..

Before the turn to DJ traffic lights..

It is not the station beside Shell near 1U and not the station beside Centrepoint

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 14 2016, 09:40 AM)
It has Blaze 97.. they haven't change the sticker.. but the floor is RON 100
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Participating stations are already selling Blaze 100 at all the 97 pumps, stickered or otherwise.

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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 14 2016, 09:53 AM)
Participating stations are already selling Blaze 100 at all the 97 pumps, stickered or otherwise.
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Bro, any news on the actual price?

Also, tomorrow will be the actual price right? Today's the last day to pump at ron 97 price?
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Yep - will update on my FB and site tomorrow as soon as I get the news. Today is last day, priced at RON97.
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QUOTE(IsuzuMaster123 @ Jan 13 2016, 12:18 PM)
Can Nissan Skyline R35 drink this ron100 ?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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R35 need to drink high quality sake import from Japan to get the most out of it. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 12 2016, 08:07 PM)
My car feel very fast now... wink.gif
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boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk

You guys are not delusional wrong after all.

Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm.

VW Golf MK6 GTI
- standard ko4 borg warner turbo
- Wagner Tuning Intercooler
- REVO Stage 3
- Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back
- 42 Draft Design Intake.

courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB
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That's a good healthy increase indeed smile.gif
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 02:25 PM)
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boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk

You guys are not delusional wrong after all.

Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm.

VW Golf MK6 GTI
- standard ko4 borg warner turbo
- Wagner Tuning Intercooler
- REVO Stage 3
- Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back
- 42 Draft Design Intake.

courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB
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Even the graph looks smoother. If you examine the graph posted by KT, you'd notice even the engine retardation is less.

So myth confirmed! At least for VW cars, the use of higher octane fuel is definitely beneficial!
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wah, for what car woh ?
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 14 2016, 02:49 PM)
Even the graph looks smoother. If you examine the graph posted by KT, you'd notice even the engine retardation is less.

So myth confirmed! At least for VW cars, the use of higher octane fuel is definitely beneficial!
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yup, the result is even better than 97.

however, upon some digging, it is not true for some other car tho
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While we may not know about the effectiveness of every manufacturer’s engine electronics, we are relatively sure that BMW’s systems do not take advantage of a fuel that is more stable than RON 97. What we’re saying is that you could pump RON 100 into a BMW, but it is highly unlikely that the stock electronics can make use of that extra fuel stability and produce more power as a result. If we are talking about aftermarket tuning and mapping then perhaps there may be some advantage to it, but for now RON 100 is likely to benefit only high end sports cars and modified machines. As for the rest of us, RON 95/97 will do perfectly fine.


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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 02:25 PM)
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boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk

You guys are not delusional wrong after all.

Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm.

VW Golf MK6 GTI
- standard ko4 borg warner turbo
- Wagner Tuning Intercooler
- REVO Stage 3
- Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back
- 42 Draft Design Intake.

courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB
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Thank u bro for the info

Time to pump once more full tank for my cars after work before price increase tomorrow. Hehehe tongue.gif

There's a comedian in axia thread saying ron 100 is bad for the environment compared to ron 95 smile.gif
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 02:25 PM)
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boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk

You guys are not delusional wrong after all.

Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm.

VW Golf MK6 GTI
- standard ko4 borg warner turbo
- Wagner Tuning Intercooler
- REVO Stage 3
- Milltek 200 cell catted Turbo Back
- 42 Draft Design Intake.

courtesy of Kevin Tan share on VW Club Malaysia FB
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siphon out ron97 in 4 mins to run dyno?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 14 2016, 03:39 PM)
siphon out ron97 in 4 mins to run dyno?
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I think the owner already has ron100 in the tank and it was stated the map has switchable settings.

First it was dynoed using Ron97 map settings, then they switched to Ron100 map settings and ran the Dyno again.

That should explain the timing of it.
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Key word "stock tune". Even BMWs can be mapped to take advantage of the new fuel.
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Unless the ECU can automatically switch maps to take advantage of the higher octane petrol there will be no difference in performance.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 14 2016, 03:56 PM)
I think the owner already has ron100 in the tank and it was stated the map has switchable settings.

First it was dynoed using Ron97 map settings, then they switched to Ron100 map settings and ran the Dyno again.

That should explain the timing of it.
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This makes most sense. Any cars that has been tuned to run on either Ron 95/97, be it modded tune or factory setting, pumping Ron 100 without a retune would yield very little benefit, or none at all. Smoother perhaps, but the power gain will not be noticeable by your butt dyno. Many are psychologically convinced though laugh.gif

My STI which came factory tuned to run on Ron 98, has been retuned to run smoother on Ron 97 (thanks to AE Subaru). I do wish to tune it to Ron 100, but only if more and more stations have them. No point retuning, then can't find it when I need it. End up, engine being retarded all the time pumping Ron 97 with Ron 100 tuning.
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Higher octane in RON100 means to delay something i dont remember, only high performance or turbo can take advantages of RON100 feature
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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Jan 14 2016, 05:43 PM)
Higher octane in RON100 means to delay something i dont remember, only high performance or turbo can take advantages of RON100 feature
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To delay premature ejaculation .. sorry i mean to delay ignition timing

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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Jan 14 2016, 05:43 PM)
Higher octane in RON100 means to delay something i dont remember, only high performance or turbo can take advantages of RON100 feature
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The fuel can withstand higher compression prior to detonation
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Basically those engine that run on high compression will benefits from it.
A Chevy 350 V8 will give out as much power as being turbo/supercharged provided if it has 13:1 compression, but in the same time it will need exotic fuel to prevent self detonation.
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Pumped once more ron 100 for all my cars. Price is rm 3.20 tomorrow according to the worker

Saw a Ferrari also putting ron 100 in his car smile.gif

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 02:25 PM)
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boy96 mozact89 -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- zweimmk

You guys are not delusional wrong after all.

Near 5% increase in peak power (very marginal before 4000 rpm) tho and nearly 8% in torque peak, that kicks in around 3500 rpm.

VW Golf MK6 GTI
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Petron Kayu Ara will have Blaze 100. After McDs, turn down to the highway, the first petrol station.
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 14 2016, 09:42 AM)
This is one at Ara Damansara, coming out from Damansara toll on the left side..

It is directly opposite BHP n Shell station (other direction)..

Before the turn to DJ traffic lights..

It is not the station beside Shell near 1U and not the station beside Centrepoint
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Slightly more expensive than Vpower Racing.....still okay smile.gif
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Some pics I took filling up RON 100 yesterday

There was a Ferrari filling it up too smile.gif




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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 15 2016, 08:56 AM)
Slightly more expensive than Vpower Racing.....still okay smile.gif
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RM 2.65?
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How much is VPower Racing bro?

RM 2.65?
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other then petron? still not avail yet?
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Anybody knows how much is the compression ratio required for RON100 to be of benefit to the engine? 13:1 and above?
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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Jan 15 2016, 09:45 AM)
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Only Petron so far with RON 100. No plans/news from the others to bring in. Even Shell still maintains their Vpower Racing.
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QUOTE(red4900 @ Jan 15 2016, 09:47 AM)
Anybody knows how much is the compression ratio required for RON100 to be of benefit to the engine? 13:1 and above?
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To me personally, 10:1 and above will benefit from it
As for turbo since its dynamic....even better biggrin.gif

It all boils down to the mapping of the ECU (be it stock tune/aftermarket tuned), if the map can take advantage, then the engine will benefit from it, if not.....then it's worth at least one try and be done with it smile.gif

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ahh! i thought until today....
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fuel'ed up ytd before 12am, overfilled abit so got smell inside my car. it smells abit same as the stp fuel injector cleaner (jet fuel version) i used years back, not like ordinary ron95 i usually use. do they mix with kerosene (rumors the stp jet fuel is actually kerosene)...
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QUOTE(ilovemod @ Jan 15 2016, 01:55 PM)
myth not confirmed. u can't take the result from a stage 2 gti with custom map, and generalized that assumption to all vw.
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You're right, I should be more specific tongue.gif

It works for tuned cars, actually I should say, it works for cars that are tuned specifically to make use of Ron100 fuels. If the timing is set to just ron97, then it won't be able to take advantage of the higher octane fuel.
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Local cars can use Ron100?
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QUOTE(Yugendx @ Jan 15 2016, 02:13 PM)
Local cars can use Ron100?
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doh.gif aiseh not this question again...

Your car can use any octane above what is recommended by the manufacturer.

If you need RON 91, then you want to use RON 120 also can, but you don't gain any advantage except for psychological effect of using more "premium" fuel.

If you want to use lower octane like RON 88 also can, but you risk engine knocking which sometimes can be totally eliminated by retarding ignition timing, adjusting the valve timing.. of course you need a standalone ECU, factory ECU re-map or a piggyback ECU system to do this.

My engine states it needs RON 97 but we tuned it to run with RON 95 with marginal difference in power.
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jan 15 2016, 03:22 PM)
doh.gif  aiseh not this question again...

Your car can use any octane above what is recommended by the manufacturer.

If you need RON 91, then you want to use RON 120 also can, but you don't gain any advantage except for psychological effect of using more "premium" fuel.

If you want to use lower octane like RON 88 also can, but you risk engine knocking which sometimes can be totally eliminated by retarding ignition timing, adjusting the valve timing.. of course you need a standalone ECU, factory ECU re-map or a piggyback ECU system to do this.

My engine states it needs RON 97 but we tuned it to run with RON 95 with marginal difference in power.
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today vpower racing advertising everywhere, from newspaper to radio...
mozact89 you use vpower racing before? compare this ron100 which 1 more powerful?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 15 2016, 10:36 PM)
today vpower racing advertising everywhere, from newspaper to radio...
mozact89 you use vpower racing before? compare this ron100 which 1 more powerful?
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Im seldom use vpower. Last time i use, for long travel kl-jb. But 4 people in the car. So i cant compare much..

But this ron100 i feel my engine more ringan..
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All those people who feel a difference in engine feel is a combination of 2 things.

1. psychological
2. better additive package.

Elaborating on no.2, Petron will definitely use a much much much better additivie package for ROn100, better cleaning, better friction modifier, better everything compared to the regular 95 and 97. This ensures a 'more power' feeling even if no effect is obtained from higher RON rating.

It's very clever marketing
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 16 2016, 11:05 AM)
All those people who feel a difference in engine feel is a combination of 2 things.

1. psychological
2. better additive package.

Elaborating on no.2, Petron will definitely use a much  much much better additivie package for ROn100, better cleaning, better friction modifier, better everything compared to the regular 95 and 97. This ensures a 'more power' feeling even if no effect is obtained from higher RON rating.

It's very clever marketing
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Someone already prove it on dyno machine.. Gain 14hp on moded car..
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 16 2016, 11:26 AM)
Someone already prove it on dyno machine.. Gain 14hp on moded car..
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MODED car

that's a whole different game you're talking, it is known RON100 does help on higher performance cars. they can push the envelope further.

bog standard cars , with all the emission nannies enabled won't see a difference
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 16 2016, 11:32 AM)
MODED car

that's a whole different game you're talking, it is known RON100 does help on higher performance cars. they can push the envelope further.

bog standard cars , with all the emission nannies enabled won't see a difference
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The price difference alone will stop most motorists from trying anyway
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Ron100 can be compress more, so it will benefit performance car and turbo charged cars. Regular cars won't get any obvious performance boost.
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All in all, RON100 is only for premium cars.
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Oh the comedian has appeared in this thread too

He said pumping ron 100 and ron 97 will harm the environment compared to ron 95 smile.gif
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Anyway this is additional info, those with petron Miles card will get 200% points. They didn't promote this so I don't know until when.

Mine 40L rm112 and I got 224 points biggrin.gif
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Haha time 4 me 2 find used BMW to try this power ron 100 laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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Can Nissan Skyline R35 drink this ron100 ?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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only a moron pump to his/her normal,daily car like myvi
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My ckd car only need 95 minimum.

I rather fill 95 caltex or bhp which have good cleaning addictive.

Extra money i saved can buy a cigarette
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 16 2016, 04:31 PM)
Ron100 can be compress more, so it will benefit performance car and turbo charged cars. Regular cars won't get any obvious performance boost.
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To be correct , turbo PERFORMANCE cars also . Normal turbo for efficiency also won't benefit it.

QUOTE(ZurichVictorT @ Jan 16 2016, 04:37 PM)
All in all, RON100 is only for premium cars.
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Again to be accurate , it's for engines that are designed to run it, not necessarily premium cars in fact most premium cars can run as low as 90
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hm.. i don't trust Philippine company... how you know one day they just change sticker/brand is actually RON97... put RON100 so can charge RM2.80 pre liter.
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i just one GTi fuel up this one at Sg Besi... onwer must be first timer tried it coz i saw him took the pic of the noozle while fueling
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QUOTE(gahpadu @ Jan 17 2016, 10:32 PM)
i just one GTi fuel up this one at Sg Besi... onwer must be first timer tried it coz i saw him took the pic of the noozle while fueling
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Which gti, satria or vw?
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not suid for old car, japan car, normal car ot godcar...dont wasting ur money use this fuel
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Hi guys,just sharing testimoni.!!

my myvi 1.3 2009 pump this fuel ron 100. The engine is smoother and the fuel consumption decrease. i tested it just now when i go back to Melaka, i only use 15km/l and i was on full throttle all the way. If i use ron 95, my fuel consumption will be about 11km/l or so..

tq, just end of my ron100 story.
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Which gti, satria or vw?
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 04:18 AM)
Hi guys,just sharing testimoni.!!

my myvi 1.3 2009 pump this fuel ron 100. The engine is smoother and the fuel consumption decrease. i tested it just now when i go back to Melaka, i only use 15km/l and i was on full throttle all the way. If i use ron 95, my fuel consumption will be about 11km/l or so..

tq, just end of my  ron100 story.
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after using ron100, no more knocking on my gen2 campro engine. this engine usually will have slight pinging/knocking on acceleration. i never pump ron97 so i don't know if ron97 also eliminate this pinging/knocking. but i saw older post gen2 year 2004-2006 many gen2 owner complain this knocking which is still on ron97...
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 04:18 AM)
Hi guys,just sharing testimoni.!!

my myvi 1.3 2009 pump this fuel ron 100. The engine is smoother and the fuel consumption decrease. i tested it just now when i go back to Melaka, i only use 15km/l and i was on full throttle all the way. If i use ron 95, my fuel consumption will be about 11km/l or so..

tq, just end of my  ron100 story.
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Your engine got well maintain or not? Carbon build up inside the engine will cause early detonation. My Axia can also run 15km/L with Ron95 from JB to Senai.
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I just wonder why people are amazed by the benefit of RON100.

A product that appear in the market to fit on some purpose. IF it doesn't, why on earth the company do so? Simply because earn too much money and need a way to waste it?

Yeah, tonnes of article circulating the internet, giving both side the equal support.

To all those that butthurt so much, pls get over it. Either forget about it, or go tune your butt to feel the awesomeness of RON100.

Internet huh
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No need to bash. If you want to use RON100, then use lah. If you don't want to use RON100, then don't use lah.

Personally, after trying out RON100 for 2.5 weeks, I do feel slight improvements on stock map. But, for me, not worth the 55 sen premium over RON97, so I will stick back with my RON97 map.
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If ppl want to pump ron 100 on their daily rides, why stop them? It's their money

Not like some stupid anime nerd here who said filling up ron 100 will be harmful for the environment

Biggest joke of 2016 smile.gif
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actually which car in Malaysia really need RON100 as min?
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To answer your question, there are no cars sold in Malaysia that needs RON100 on their stock settings.
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actually which car in Malaysia really need RON100 as min?
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To answer your question, there are no cars sold in Malaysia that needs RON100 on their stock settings.
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To answer your question, there are no cars sold in Malaysia that needs RON100 on their stock settings.
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since no car really need this RON100, but why still argue about better or not to the car...


All should think and argue why they implement this RON100 in Malaysia?
any hidden reason in behind?


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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:26 PM)
since no car really need this RON100, but why still argue about better or not to the car...
All should think and argue why they implement this RON100 in Malaysia?
any hidden reason in behind?
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money, it's a niche market to tap in to that has been monopolized by Shell all this while.

Eventhough almost no car required ROn100, there are bucket bucket loads off syiok sendiri who feel they will benefit immensely from it.

So why not, it advertises itself from the ignorance and misinformation of consumers

how much more better can it get?
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 18 2016, 05:34 PM)
money, it's a niche market to tap in to that has been monopolized by Shell all this while.

Eventhough almost no car required ROn100, there are bucket bucket loads off syiok sendiri who feel they will benefit immensely from it.

So why not, it advertises itself from the ignorance and misinformation of consumers

how much more better can it get?
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Why gov let it? Or Najib have share in this thing?
cause this will cost more Ringgit flow out of the country right?

But Malaysia really many syiok sendiri people. lol


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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:26 PM)
since no car really need this RON100, but why still argue about better or not to the car...
All should think and argue why they implement this RON100 in Malaysia?
any hidden reason in behind?
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No one needs LV/Prada/Gucci/Hermes when recycle bags can achieve the same purpose. Why need 10mbps internet when 1mbps also works? Why introduce 30mbps if 10mbps also does the same thing? Your question sways in that direction.

Exactly why a higher octane fuel was introduced. Some tuned cars can also take advantage of this higher octane fuel. Some shiok sendiri. Whatever it is, I personally think it is a good time for someone to come up and rival Shell's VPR. If you are a regular user of VPR (for whatever the reason), an additional 15 sen for RON100 does not sound like a bad idea at all.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:39 PM)
Why gov let it? Or Najib have share in this thing?
cause this will cost more Ringgit flow out of the country right?

But Malaysia really many syiok sendiri people. lol
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it's a free market lah, nobody can force them to pump ROn100 , not even RON97 can anyone force you to pump

so what is there to block ?

no, ringgit won't flow out, because petron buys the base stock from our refineries and add in the octance boosters to bring it to RON100.
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 18 2016, 05:42 PM)
it's a free market lah, nobody can force them to pump ROn100 , not even RON97 can anyone force you to pump

so what is there to block ?

no, ringgit won't flow out, because petron buys the base stock from our refineries and add in the octance boosters to bring it to RON100.
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Cause Malaysia gov control what petrol and price selling in Malaysia.

So the RON100 is not refine at other country?
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i wonder, do higher RON rating mean better quality petrol?
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:39 PM)
Why gov let it? Or Najib have share in this thing?
cause this will cost more Ringgit flow out of the country right?

But Malaysia really many syiok sendiri people. lol
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:45 PM)
Cause Malaysia gov control what petrol and price selling in Malaysia.

So the RON100 is not refine at other country?
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i wonder, do higher RON rating mean better quality petrol?
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Nah of course not , these are low volume sellers you think they would spend to have tanker specially bring in petrol ?

Octane boosters have long been around just now they put it into the fuel for you
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jan 18 2016, 09:24 AM)
Bro... cannot compare city/town driving in heavy stop/go traffic fuel consumption with smooth highway la...
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I mean compared if I pump 95 and go back melaka and ron100. The difference is 4km/l with the same driving style and conditions
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:39 PM)
Why gov let it? Or Najib have share in this thing?
cause this will cost more Ringgit flow out of the country right?

But Malaysia really many syiok sendiri people. lol
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This is not a politic thread.....
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 08:19 PM)
I mean compared if I pump 95 and go back melaka and ron100. The difference is 4km/l with the same driving style and conditions
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if your car full tank is 50 litre .. the 4km/l x 50 will be become 200 KM ... you see that different ???
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if your car full tank is 50 litre  .. the 4km/l x 50 will be become 200 KM ... you see that different ???
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yup, just thought of sharing what happen if myvi pump ron100. It does improve the efficiency.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jan 18 2016, 05:45 PM)
Cause Malaysia gov control what petrol and price selling in Malaysia.

So the RON100 is not refine at other country?
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i wonder, do higher RON rating mean better quality petrol?
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Petron's refinery are not big enough to give full product supply to Malaysian market.
Initially they was taking from Petronas which causing Petronas to suffer lost last year. Now they are buying from open market on the products, whoever that offering cheap products, they will just take.
RON is just a small aspect in a petrol's quality, the RVP, distillation and other properties are equally important.
For me I'll just use normal RON95 and buy some industrial grade ethanol(RON100-105) or toluene and pour 500-1000ml to the petrol tank on each fill up.
Higher RON do bring some effect to our engine especially on higher rpm, like at 4000rpm using RON95 your engine sounds rough, using RON100 maybe your engine will sound rough at 5000rpm.

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 08:25 PM)
yup, just thought of sharing what happen if myvi pump ron100. It does improve the efficiency.
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hahahahahah rclxms.gif

if pump at myvi .. imagine the Myvi 1.5 cc , after pump ron 100 it will become myvi 2.0 cc ...

extra fast flex.gif flex.gif

but i don't see the point for introduce this ron 100 in the market .. since we are not allow to drive as fast as we want @.@ .. as we might kena saman if unlucky ..
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aiyo, i don't understand why got ppl shoot here and there on this ron 100? isn't Petron at Philippine already selling Ron100 since years ago? If not mistaken they have 4 variant if different Ron just for Petrol alone. Isn't that it's better if we have more choice, say Ron92?

On side note seriously my gen2 no more knocking on this Ron100 petrol, just now i purposely on aircond and climb slope to listen for any obvious knocking noise (trademark of gen2 since 2004). too bad it's RM2.80 so i will not going to use it anymore (if it was Rm2.25 I will still support it).
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Tested ron 100 on a Volkswagen..

Love the feeling compared to ron 97 smile.gif
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really many shiok sendiri with RON100, lol.....

dunno really trolling or what....

hahaha......
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 18 2016, 04:55 PM)
To answer your question, there are no cars sold in Malaysia that needs RON100 on their stock settings.
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all the japan import RX8, FD2R, EVO X/IX etc etc need RON100 to achieve the mentioned HP, no?
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 19 2016, 08:38 AM)
all the japan import RX8, FD2R, EVO X/IX etc etc need RON100 to achieve the mentioned HP, no?
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Ron100 just came out. All stock cars even the premium one requires min RON97. Putting RON100 may not get that additional boost.
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 08:19 PM)
I mean compared if I pump 95 and go back melaka and ron100. The difference is 4km/l with the same driving style and conditions
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So what engine maintenance you did for the past 6-7 years?
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 19 2016, 09:03 AM)
Ron100 just came out. All stock cars even the premium one requires min RON97. Putting RON100 may not get that additional boost.
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Grey import bro.
That were times when type R is not in the official offerings of Malaysia Honda.
IINM, type R only introduced a year after the ordinary civic were launched, around 10 years back? laugh.gif

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Axia with ron 100, got add power or not.
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Jan 19 2016, 09:35 AM)
Axia with ron 100, got add power or not.
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Ron95 and Ron100 have almost the same energy density. So energy the same got more power or not? brows.gif
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 19 2016, 08:38 AM)
all the japan import RX8, FD2R, EVO X/IX etc etc need RON100 to achieve the mentioned HP, no?
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Cars sold in Malaysia. Not grey import. Cars that are sold by authorized dealers in Malaysia all do not need to run on RON100.
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 19 2016, 09:59 AM)
Cars sold in Malaysia. Not grey import. Cars that are sold by authorized dealers in Malaysia all do not need to run on RON100.
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FD2R came CBU with recommendation to run RON 100, sold by Honda Malaysia. However, it will still run on RON 97, though with slight retardation. When custom tuning was done with mods, the tuning was also done with RON 97 since that was the highest available. My current 2015 STI, sold by Auth Dealer Motor Image, came recommended to run on RON 98. Now retuned to run on RON 97 for more efficiency.

Most cars can still run on RON 97, even if the recommendation is higher. The only setback is, the car generates lesser power at certain range. However, cars that came factory tuned to run lower RON, pumping higher RON rating does not necessarily equate to more power. This is something people still fail to understand.

Thus, it is not that it DOES not need. It is preferred if factory tune came with it. No one buys a performance car, only to pump lower RON octane to generate lesser power by saving petrol money. If want to save petrol money, don't buy performance cars that came recommended with Ron 97 and above. I laugh when I read an FD2R owner wanted to tune his car to run on RON 95. Get a normal FD if that's the case ...

Most VW are not performance cars, hence they came factory tuned to run on RON 95, to appeal to a bigger pool of potential buyers. You may then rechip/remap to run on RON 97, and it will net more power. Just don't drop back to RON 95 with RON 97 map.

I cannot say the same for GTI/GTI-R since I do not know what it was recommended to run on. I would like to know.
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McFD2R interesting and thanks for the info. I wonder if only the CTR and STI are the only cars sold locally by ADs where stock tunes required gas higher than RON 97?

VWs, even the GTI and R, are recommended to run on RON 95. Some owners later tune to run on RON 97. Most performance VWs (ahem - Audi (R8), Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini) are recommended to run on RON 97.
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most mindfuk comments i've heard

'gomen shouldn't allow RON100, it's just add to burden of people'

waffak?
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most mindfuk comments i've heard

'gomen shouldn't allow RON100, it's just add to burden of people'

waffak?
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McFD2R interesting and thanks for the info. I wonder if only the CTR and STI are the only cars sold locally by ADs where stock tunes required gas higher than RON 97?

VWs, even the GTI and R, are recommended to run on RON 95. Some owners later tune to run on RON 97. Most performance VWs (ahem - Audi (R8), Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini) are recommended to run on RON 97.
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My STI fuel lid.
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Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try .. laugh.gif
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most mindfuk comments i've heard

'gomen shouldn't allow RON100, it's just add to burden of people'

waffak?
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Or Apple shouldn't make iPhones .... and whole bunch more.

It's ok .. we need our dose of laughter from time to time.
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My STI fuel lid.
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Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try ..  laugh.gif
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There should be difference in the mid to high range I think

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 19 2016, 09:43 AM)
Ron95 and Ron100 have almost the same energy density. So energy the same got more power or not? brows.gif
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Then pretty pointless to buy ron100. Unless those expansive car.
I seen myvi fill ron 100.
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My STI fuel lid.
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Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try ..  laugh.gif
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Share with us the outcome. I have a 2014 legacy and wanted to try this ron100. However, the fuel cap info says to fill with ron95 ONLY! rclxub.gif so, dare not to fill up with other RON specifications.

Previously my ver10 (also bought from MI) states RON 95 MIN! So, that one I can try different RON categories.

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Now Petron should go and open a station near SIC tongue.gif
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Jan 19 2016, 11:51 PM)
Then pretty pointless to buy ron100. Unless those expansive car.
I seen myvi fill ron 100.
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i checked myvi Ezi guidebook, it states anything above RON 90 ~ so, i interpret as RON 95, 97, even 100 are all compatible, right?
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Jan 19 2016, 11:51 PM)
Then pretty pointless to buy ron100. Unless those expansive car.
I seen myvi fill ron 100.
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If they do something like add more air compression, then it will give them better efficiency. rclxms.gif
So there will be more energy transfer to the wheel.
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QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jan 20 2016, 06:23 AM)
Share with us the outcome. I have a 2014 legacy and wanted to try this ron100. However, the fuel cap info says to fill with ron95 ONLY!  rclxub.gif  so, dare not to fill up with other RON specifications.

Previously my ver10 (also bought from MI) states RON 95 MIN! So, that one I can try different RON categories.
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Can fill ron95 and above.

The question is what octane fuel is the ECU is optimized for. Stock cars are tuned to accept a range variety (min - max), if it is localized for Malaysia, then the minimal range should start from 92 (for older cars) to 97. Therefore, pumping ron100 will yield little to no additional benefits.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 20 2016, 09:57 AM)
Can fill ron95 and above.

The question is what octane fuel is the ECU is optimized for. Stock cars are tuned to accept a range variety (min - max), if it is localized for Malaysia, then the minimal range should start from 92 (for older cars) to 97. Therefore, pumping ron100 will yield little to no additional benefits.
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i believe so too but the fuel cap indicates RON 95 ONLY. So, it's ok la... just follow it tongue.gif
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QUOTE(char_les @ Jan 20 2016, 09:47 AM)
i checked myvi Ezi guidebook, it states anything above RON 90 ~ so, i interpret as RON 95, 97, even 100 are all compatible, right?
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You are right. Compatible? yes. Necessary? No. nod.gif

QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jan 20 2016, 10:54 AM)
i believe so too but the fuel cap indicates RON 95 ONLY. So, it's ok la... just follow it tongue.gif
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I believe it meant to use at least RON 95. Anything lower just increase the risk of engine knocking.

As for myself, it's been erratic on my power band. I'm waiting to finish up the current fill, and refill one more time for a more consistent effect. Need more mileage on it for a more accurate review. Weekend car doesn't help with mileage .. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Jan 20 2016, 12:18 PM)
As for myself, it's been erratic on my power band. I'm waiting to finish up the current fill, and refill one more time for a more consistent effect. Need more mileage on it for a more accurate review. Weekend car doesn't help with mileage .. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 20 2016, 01:56 PM)
Weekend car = 5000rpm and above tongue.gif
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haha... I think so for him... when u have redline 9000 RPM,.... still plenty leftover.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 20 2016, 09:57 AM)
Can fill ron95 and above.

The question is what octane fuel is the ECU is optimized for. Stock cars are tuned to accept a range variety (min - max), if it is localized for Malaysia, then the minimal range should start from 92 (for older cars) to 97. Therefore, pumping ron100 will yield little to no additional benefits.
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I believe cars are tuned to only one RON rating, not a range of them. You can use petrol with that RON or higher but not lower. Using a higher RON petrol has no benefit but won't harm the engine either. Using a lower RON risk engine knocking.

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Jan 20 2016, 07:07 PM)
I believe cars are tuned to only one RON rating, not a range of them. You can use petrol with that RON or higher but not lower. Using a higher RON petrol has no benefit but won't harm the engine either. Using a lower RON risk engine knocking.
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New generation car engines will compensate when detect a knock.

Higher ron fuel is actually harder to burn, so putting into a regular car will create more hydrocarbon than usual. It is not known for all car models though.

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 21 2016, 09:32 AM)
New generation car engines will compensate when detect a knock.

Higher ron fuel is actually harder to burn, so putting into a regular car will create more hydrocarbon than usual. It is not known for all car models though.
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Not harder to burn.. it is more resistant to self ignition.. so that it does not prematurely detonate before the spark plugs ignites it. Once the spark plug fires and there is a source of ignition, the RON 100 will burn just like any other fuel.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 21 2016, 05:02 PM)
Not harder to burn.. it is more resistant to self ignition.. so that it does not prematurely detonate before the spark plugs ignites it. Once the spark plug fires and there is a source of ignition, the RON 100 will burn just like any other fuel.
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The early detonation is due to heat, caused by compressing air and fuel. Higher ron can withstand higher temperature before it ignites. Because it is "harder" to burn, regular cars using premium fuel will produce more hydrocarbon. Some cars may even get less power with premium fuel.
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 22 2016, 01:39 PM)
The early detonation is due to heat, caused by compressing air and fuel. Higher ron can withstand higher temperature before it ignites. Because it is "harder" to burn, regular cars using premium fuel will produce more hydrocarbon. Some cars may even get less power with premium fuel.
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Harder to burn WITHOUT ignition source. Once you light it with spark, it burns like lower RON fuels. The harder to burn part does not matter when there is an ignition source. Cars that don't need premium fuel might get less power is not because the fuel is harder to burn but higher octane means more 'hydrocarbon' addictive added to the fuel and the fuel no longer produces the same amount of energy. The fuel still burns but produces less energy than a lower RON fuel. Maybe in other languages they use the word 'harder to burn' as to say it produces less power. If that's the case I don't speak the other languages so well and won't argue with you on that.
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 22 2016, 01:39 PM)
The early detonation is due to heat, caused by compressing air and fuel. Higher ron can withstand higher temperature before it ignites. Because it is "harder" to burn, regular cars using premium fuel will produce more hydrocarbon. Some cars may even get less power with premium fuel.
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I'm sceptical about the hydrocarbon part.... the amount of hydrocarbon in a given volume of petrol is fixed, how does regular cars product "more" hydrocarbons from burning the same volume of said petrol. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jan 22 2016, 02:03 PM)
I'm sceptical about the hydrocarbon part.... the amount of hydrocarbon in a given volume of petrol is fixed, how does regular cars product "more" hydrocarbons from burning the same volume of said petrol.  rclxub.gif
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He is coming from the point that they have to put more hydrocarbons in it to up the RON.. which is also why higher RON petrol does not produce the same amount of power as lower ron since there is 'more' hydrocarbons per part of fuel.
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No need to make things more complicated.
An engine which is already optimized/tuned to produce the best performance for example at RON97 will not yield any additional benefit when running higher RON than 97, so no need to waste your money buying RON100, just as simple as that.
If an engine is tuned to perform the best at RON100 then it would not give it's best by using just RON97 and therefore just go ahead and try the RON100 as it should give better performance.
If an engine is say optimized for RON98 then what you can do is mix RON100 with either 95 or 97 using just simple ratio to get RON98, then that should give you the best performance already, no need to fill up full with RON100.
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jan 22 2016, 02:03 PM)
I'm sceptical about the hydrocarbon part.... the amount of hydrocarbon in a given volume of petrol is fixed, how does regular cars product "more" hydrocarbons from burning the same volume of said petrol.  rclxub.gif
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When you burn hydrocarbon, the waste gases will be CO2, CO, H2O and hydrocarbon.
Vehicles will not completely burn the fuel so there bound to have some hydrocarbon being release to the atmosphere.

Putting higher ron into an engine that's not meant to will result in more hydrocarbon being release into the atmosphere, the burning is more efficient with lower ron rating.

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 22 2016, 02:25 PM)
He is coming from the point that they have to put more hydrocarbons in it to up the RON.. which is also why higher RON petrol does not produce the same amount of power as lower ron since there is 'more' hydrocarbons per part of fuel.
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You do know hydrocarbon exist in gas and liquid. Both Ron95 and Ron100 have almost the same equivalent energy content. So their hydrocarbon content will not differ significantly. The main difference is in the exhaust. The less efficient you can fully burn the fuel, the more hydrocarbons will be release to the atmosphere.

Do note that I did not mention more hydrocarbon in the fuel. Till date I always mention the exhaust unless I miss out mentioning it.
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 26 2016, 05:13 PM)
When you burn hydrocarbon, the waste gases will be CO2, CO, H2O and hydrocarbon.
Vehicles will not completely burn the fuel so there bound to have some hydrocarbon being release to the atmosphere.

Putting higher ron into an engine that's not meant to will result in more hydrocarbon being release into the atmosphere, the burning is more efficient with lower ron rating.
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A few post ahead mentioned that RON is just an indicator to the resistance to uncontrolled self ignition of fuel in the engine. How efficient in burning the fuel really depends of a lot of other factors plays a bigger role like fuel mixture, piston head design, spark plug design etc. For example if you tune an engine rich, the potential of hydrocarbon release in the exhaust stream will be more than a lean tune. That is when you can see flame coming out of the exhaust. Regardless of what RON rating fuel used.
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Does anyone know how much is ron 100 now?
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Based on latest pricing, it should drop 20 cents as well, I am expecting it to be at RM 2.60/L but this is RON 100 not 97 so yeah....
Another way is to go to the petrol station itself to check tongue.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Feb 3 2016, 03:26 PM)
Based on latest pricing, it should drop 20 cents as well, I am expecting it to be at RM 2.60/L but this is RON 100 not 97 so yeah....
Another way is to go to the petrol station itself to check tongue.gif
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Hehehe ok, I will check tonight if I m free smile.gif
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Feb 3 2016, 11:49 AM)
Does anyone know how much is ron 100 now?
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Still the same, 2.80/ltr.
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 22 2016, 01:39 PM)
The early detonation is due to heat, caused by compressing air and fuel. Higher ron can withstand higher temperature before it ignites. Because it is "harder" to burn, regular cars using premium fuel will produce more hydrocarbon. Some cars may even get less power with premium fuel.
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Dont spread misinformation to people when you don't know jack shit how things work. A RON number is not a measure of the fuels calorific or energy value. It is a standard the petroleum industry uses to quantify the anti-knocking properties of a fuel.

A RON90 fuel corresponds to a fuel with the same anti-knock ability as equivalent 90% vol of iso-octane (which is a component in gasoline usually added to raise the knock resistance).

Think of an explosion as a series of successive chain reaction. When you add long chain branched hydrocarbon (such as iso-octane), the chain reaction propogation is harder because long chain branched hydrocarbon are harder to break which essentially kill off your chain reaction (no chain reaction, no detonation).

Methanol, ethanol, MTBE are all anti-knock agents that the petroleum industry add to fuel. The energy or calorific value of fuel is an important fuel specification and the industry blends the fuel with additive and chemicals to get the required spec.

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Just wondering,

What is the color of RON 100 fuel? Isit same with 97?

97 - RED
V-Power - Blue
95 - Gold/Yellow
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QUOTE(779364 @ Feb 3 2016, 08:19 PM)
Dont spread misinformation to people when you don't know jack shit how things work. A RON number is not a measure of the fuels calorific or energy value. It is a standard the petroleum industry uses to quantify the anti-knocking properties of a fuel.

A RON90 fuel corresponds to a fuel with the same anti-knock ability as equivalent 90% vol of iso-octane (which is a component in gasoline usually added to raise the knock resistance).

Think of an explosion as a series of successive chain reaction. When you add long chain branched hydrocarbon (such as iso-octane), the chain reaction propogation is harder because long chain branched hydrocarbon are harder to break which essentially kill off your chain reaction (no chain reaction, no detonation).

Methanol, ethanol, MTBE are all anti-knock agents that the petroleum industry add to fuel. The energy or calorific value of fuel is an important fuel specification and the industry blends the fuel with additive and chemicals to get the required spec.
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Pls don't mind him bro..

He said in axia thread that pumping ron 100 will damage n is harmful for the environment compared to ron 95

I challenged him n said ron 95 is euro 2 petrol while ron 97 n 100 is euro 4 petrol

How can it be more harmful for the environment when there is less sulphur n gas emission?

He didn't even dare to respond after that

A lot of weirdos n "car experts " in lyn forum smile.gif

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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Feb 3 2016, 09:54 PM)
Just wondering,

What is the color of RON 100 fuel? Isit same with 97?

97 - RED
V-Power - Blue
95 - Gold/Yellow
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Ron 100 is an even darker red. It's like concentrated red.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Feb 3 2016, 11:30 PM)
Ron 100 is an even darker red. It's like concentrated red.
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I see, I tot it should be purple color sweat.gif

Since V-power already blue, red + blue = purple tongue.gif
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QUOTE(779364 @ Feb 3 2016, 08:19 PM)
Dont spread misinformation to people when you don't know jack shit how things work. A RON number is not a measure of the fuels calorific or energy value. It is a standard the petroleum industry uses to quantify the anti-knocking properties of a fuel.

A RON90 fuel corresponds to a fuel with the same anti-knock ability as equivalent 90% vol of iso-octane (which is a component in gasoline usually added to raise the knock resistance).

Think of an explosion as a series of successive chain reaction. When you add long chain branched hydrocarbon (such as iso-octane), the chain reaction propogation is harder because long chain branched hydrocarbon are harder to break which essentially kill off your chain reaction (no chain reaction, no detonation).

Methanol, ethanol, MTBE are all anti-knock agents that the petroleum industry add to fuel. The energy or calorific value of fuel is an important fuel specification and the industry blends the fuel with additive and chemicals to get the required spec.
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Produce more hydrocarbons in terms of exhaust gas. You miss reading one of the later post.
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Feb 3 2016, 10:55 PM)
Pls don't  mind him bro..

He said in axia thread that pumping ron 100 will damage n is harmful  for the environment compared to ron 95

I challenged him n said ron 95 is euro 2 petrol while ron 97 n 100 is euro 4 petrol

How can it be more  harmful for the environment when there is less sulphur n gas  emission?

He didn't  even dare to respond after that

A lot of weirdos n "car experts " in lyn forum smile.gif
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After I gave you that video of higher hydrocarbon emission and you end up diam diam. doh.gif
A few of us already boycott you in Axia thread but please continue, it's boring without a joker. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Feb 15 2016, 02:07 PM)
After I gave you that video of higher hydrocarbon emission and you end up diam diam.  doh.gif
A few of us already boycott you in Axia thread but please continue, it's boring without a joker. notworthy.gif
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Whatever nerd, u r probably jealous of my ride(s) smile.gif

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Feb 15 2016, 02:21 PM)
Whatever nerd, u r probably  jealous of my ride(s) smile.gif
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This joke kinda lame, you can do better than this. rclxms.gif
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Will give it a try tomorrow. After all this while always in for V-Power Racing. Hope can see an improvements. If not, stick with v-power racing hehe
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FUYOHHHH... MY KANCIL CAN DO 200KM/H WITH RON100...!!

I CAN'T WAIT FOR RON120..!!
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Apr 7 2016, 09:36 AM)
I CAN'T WAIT FOR RON120..!!
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Don't need to wait, will never come. Only pure methane gas is RON120 equivalent. Anything close or above RON100 will need some alcohol mix (usually ethanol) in it.
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Apr 7 2016, 09:36 AM)
FUYOHHHH... MY KANCIL CAN DO 200KM/H WITH RON100...!!

I CAN'T WAIT FOR RON120..!!
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FOR SURE 240 KM/H WITH RON120.
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good for performance car and naik genting or hill road

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Just pump in half Ron 10 plus existing v power racing. So far smoother hehehe.
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Apr 7 2016, 09:36 AM)
FUYOHHHH... MY KANCIL CAN DO 200KM/H WITH RON100...!!

I CAN'T WAIT FOR RON120..!!
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You sure you got money for VP Import fuel? laugh.gif

 

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