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post Jan 19 2016, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 18 2016, 08:19 PM)
I mean compared if I pump 95 and go back melaka and ron100. The difference is 4km/l with the same driving style and conditions
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So what engine maintenance you did for the past 6-7 years?
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post Jan 19 2016, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 19 2016, 09:03 AM)
Ron100 just came out. All stock cars even the premium one requires min RON97. Putting RON100 may not get that additional boost.
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Grey import bro.
That were times when type R is not in the official offerings of Malaysia Honda.
IINM, type R only introduced a year after the ordinary civic were launched, around 10 years back? laugh.gif

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post Jan 19 2016, 09:35 AM

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Axia with ron 100, got add power or not.
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post Jan 19 2016, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(boonhan @ Jan 19 2016, 09:35 AM)
Axia with ron 100, got add power or not.
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Ron95 and Ron100 have almost the same energy density. So energy the same got more power or not? brows.gif
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post Jan 19 2016, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 19 2016, 08:38 AM)
all the japan import RX8, FD2R, EVO X/IX etc etc need RON100 to achieve the mentioned HP, no?
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Cars sold in Malaysia. Not grey import. Cars that are sold by authorized dealers in Malaysia all do not need to run on RON100.
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post Jan 19 2016, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 19 2016, 09:59 AM)
Cars sold in Malaysia. Not grey import. Cars that are sold by authorized dealers in Malaysia all do not need to run on RON100.
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FD2R came CBU with recommendation to run RON 100, sold by Honda Malaysia. However, it will still run on RON 97, though with slight retardation. When custom tuning was done with mods, the tuning was also done with RON 97 since that was the highest available. My current 2015 STI, sold by Auth Dealer Motor Image, came recommended to run on RON 98. Now retuned to run on RON 97 for more efficiency.

Most cars can still run on RON 97, even if the recommendation is higher. The only setback is, the car generates lesser power at certain range. However, cars that came factory tuned to run lower RON, pumping higher RON rating does not necessarily equate to more power. This is something people still fail to understand.

Thus, it is not that it DOES not need. It is preferred if factory tune came with it. No one buys a performance car, only to pump lower RON octane to generate lesser power by saving petrol money. If want to save petrol money, don't buy performance cars that came recommended with Ron 97 and above. I laugh when I read an FD2R owner wanted to tune his car to run on RON 95. Get a normal FD if that's the case ...

Most VW are not performance cars, hence they came factory tuned to run on RON 95, to appeal to a bigger pool of potential buyers. You may then rechip/remap to run on RON 97, and it will net more power. Just don't drop back to RON 95 with RON 97 map.

I cannot say the same for GTI/GTI-R since I do not know what it was recommended to run on. I would like to know.
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post Jan 19 2016, 03:45 PM

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McFD2R interesting and thanks for the info. I wonder if only the CTR and STI are the only cars sold locally by ADs where stock tunes required gas higher than RON 97?

VWs, even the GTI and R, are recommended to run on RON 95. Some owners later tune to run on RON 97. Most performance VWs (ahem - Audi (R8), Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini) are recommended to run on RON 97.
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most mindfuk comments i've heard

'gomen shouldn't allow RON100, it's just add to burden of people'

waffak?
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post Jan 19 2016, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 19 2016, 04:13 PM)
most mindfuk comments i've heard

'gomen shouldn't allow RON100, it's just add to burden of people'

waffak?
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same like he/she should not eat else he/she will berak. doh.gif

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post Jan 19 2016, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Jan 19 2016, 03:45 PM)
McFD2R interesting and thanks for the info. I wonder if only the CTR and STI are the only cars sold locally by ADs where stock tunes required gas higher than RON 97?

VWs, even the GTI and R, are recommended to run on RON 95. Some owners later tune to run on RON 97. Most performance VWs (ahem - Audi (R8), Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini) are recommended to run on RON 97.
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My STI fuel lid.
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Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try .. laugh.gif
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post Jan 19 2016, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 19 2016, 04:13 PM)
most mindfuk comments i've heard

'gomen shouldn't allow RON100, it's just add to burden of people'

waffak?
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Or Apple shouldn't make iPhones .... and whole bunch more.

It's ok .. we need our dose of laughter from time to time.
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Jan 19 2016, 05:51 PM)
My STI fuel lid.
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Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try ..  laugh.gif
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There should be difference in the mid to high range I think

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post Jan 19 2016, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 19 2016, 09:43 AM)
Ron95 and Ron100 have almost the same energy density. So energy the same got more power or not? brows.gif
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Then pretty pointless to buy ron100. Unless those expansive car.
I seen myvi fill ron 100.
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Jan 19 2016, 05:51 PM)
My STI fuel lid.
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Pumping RON 100 for the first time, with about RM15 worth of RON 97 still inside.Haven't really travelled much with it, less than 50km. Doubt I'd feel any difference since it's been retuned with RON 97 2 months ago. Just itchy backside must try ..  laugh.gif
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Share with us the outcome. I have a 2014 legacy and wanted to try this ron100. However, the fuel cap info says to fill with ron95 ONLY! rclxub.gif so, dare not to fill up with other RON specifications.

Previously my ver10 (also bought from MI) states RON 95 MIN! So, that one I can try different RON categories.

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Now Petron should go and open a station near SIC tongue.gif
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Jan 19 2016, 11:51 PM)
Then pretty pointless to buy ron100. Unless those expansive car.
I seen myvi fill ron 100.
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i checked myvi Ezi guidebook, it states anything above RON 90 ~ so, i interpret as RON 95, 97, even 100 are all compatible, right?
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post Jan 20 2016, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(boonhan @ Jan 19 2016, 11:51 PM)
Then pretty pointless to buy ron100. Unless those expansive car.
I seen myvi fill ron 100.
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If they do something like add more air compression, then it will give them better efficiency. rclxms.gif
So there will be more energy transfer to the wheel.
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QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jan 20 2016, 06:23 AM)
Share with us the outcome. I have a 2014 legacy and wanted to try this ron100. However, the fuel cap info says to fill with ron95 ONLY!  rclxub.gif  so, dare not to fill up with other RON specifications.

Previously my ver10 (also bought from MI) states RON 95 MIN! So, that one I can try different RON categories.
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Can fill ron95 and above.

The question is what octane fuel is the ECU is optimized for. Stock cars are tuned to accept a range variety (min - max), if it is localized for Malaysia, then the minimal range should start from 92 (for older cars) to 97. Therefore, pumping ron100 will yield little to no additional benefits.
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post Jan 20 2016, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jan 20 2016, 09:57 AM)
Can fill ron95 and above.

The question is what octane fuel is the ECU is optimized for. Stock cars are tuned to accept a range variety (min - max), if it is localized for Malaysia, then the minimal range should start from 92 (for older cars) to 97. Therefore, pumping ron100 will yield little to no additional benefits.
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i believe so too but the fuel cap indicates RON 95 ONLY. So, it's ok la... just follow it tongue.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(char_les @ Jan 20 2016, 09:47 AM)
i checked myvi Ezi guidebook, it states anything above RON 90 ~ so, i interpret as RON 95, 97, even 100 are all compatible, right?
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You are right. Compatible? yes. Necessary? No. nod.gif

QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jan 20 2016, 10:54 AM)
i believe so too but the fuel cap indicates RON 95 ONLY. So, it's ok la... just follow it tongue.gif
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I believe it meant to use at least RON 95. Anything lower just increase the risk of engine knocking.

As for myself, it's been erratic on my power band. I'm waiting to finish up the current fill, and refill one more time for a more consistent effect. Need more mileage on it for a more accurate review. Weekend car doesn't help with mileage .. sweat.gif

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