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post May 17 2016, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 17 2016, 05:09 PM)
did you install the OPV and flow restrictors?
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Not yet, Everything still stock for now except for shower screen. I haven't start my mod on the steam want yet as im still waiting for the lube vendor to provide me some response. Once i finish my wand then i might want to go for OPV and flow restrictors but problem with OPV is that you need to spend more money to get the gauge else you wont know how much is your pressure bar.

Just some general term if anyone looking for OPV mod and what to order.

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"boiler predisposed" or "boiler not predisposed"

The only way to tell is to take the top cover off your Oscar. It is a quick task and involves removing 6 screws.

If you look at the kits, the 'boiler predisposed' kit has a vacuum breaker that screws directly into the boiler using an available fitting. Older boilers lacked this installation point, so the vacuum breaker had to be installed using a t-connector.
I will leave the electronics upgrade mod part alone for future plan as i also plan to PID my Oscar.

QUOTE(luvox @ May 17 2016, 05:09 PM)
As usual like wat car club did, the opening thread post. xD
Oscar intro, price, where to buy, version, spec, pro & con, best pull technique, modfication, descale, recommendation, user list.. Haha. Dont take my words too serious
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You welcome to open one then i join in rclxm9.gif but normally ppl would got for Oscar II already by now.

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post May 17 2016, 05:02 PM

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Not predisposed look like

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disposed look like

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post May 18 2016, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ May 17 2016, 07:12 PM)
I guess I'm a little hesitant on the OPV and flow restrictor mod.
There was a topic way back where we talked about pressure and flow rate. I'm not sure if I lower the pressure of the small vibration pump, will I mess up the flow rate?
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You need to play around with the variables to only know if it is affecting it but im seeing alot of ppl install OPV and flow restrictor mod without a problem. All you need is a gauge to measure it ensure they on the right spot.

QUOTE(ycs @ May 17 2016, 08:42 PM)
my boiler has 4 openings, so shd be easy to install the anti-vac

maybe can share postage if getting from elektro's

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Yup, If you see the elektro's install video. It is damm easy, all you need is a torque wrench, and some screw loctite. Remove the old anti-vac with torque wrench, apply screw loctite, hand screw and tighten with torque on new anti-vac.


QUOTE(ymeng85 @ May 17 2016, 11:57 PM)
Yea, we should do some group buy for Oscar mods, screens and baskets
Also with the IMS/VST baskets, a 58.34mm tamper?
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And some screenshot of their pulling shots, brewing and some arts too icon_rolleyes.gif.

QUOTE(luvox @ May 18 2016, 12:31 AM)
How much it costs for vacum breaker, OPV? Add me to the group purchase list xD
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I would suggest to purchase from Elektro's. They sold bundle one set with OPV and vacum breaker in a single package (save the hassle of clicking twice in the basket) but you had to bear in mind that there will be tax when it reach our shores as i did kena on my steam wand mod part.

Kit OPV + Kit anti vacuum valve BOILER PREDISPOSED for Oscar vers. 1

Kit OPV + Kit anti vacuum valve BOILER NOT PREDISPOSED for Oscar vers. 1
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post May 19 2016, 10:28 AM

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Can any Oscar Owner share a picture of their group head with the view as per arrow indicate below ?

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Appreciate the help. I need to clarified something.
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post May 23 2016, 05:11 PM

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Machine on fully strip down for descale and mod project begins

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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ May 21 2016, 09:43 PM)
Not sure if this is what you want but here you go
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Meng, Thanks for the picture but i cant see clearly on the area.
Just wonder do you have this unknown stuff (I assume it is loctite from factory) that highlighted in the picture red box at your machine ?

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Kindly help to check and confirm. Thanks

QUOTE(Dan430 @ May 23 2016, 09:26 PM)
Woah rclxms.gif  Big project coming up!! so seems like temporary on drips??  brows.gif
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Not going to drip, I had another machine on the standby.

Reminder always wear safety glove when it comes to project like this. It took a small chuck of my meat from me when i try to open some of the brass connection material. They basically put loctite everywhere and it makes it hard to open those brass connection pipe. Open those connection brass material is going to take time and you are going to need a lot of energy to loosen them. a good set of wrenches and a mallet is greatly needed in this project and never buy those small adjustable wrenches just because you want to save cost, they never really works well and time consuming just to adjust up and down to fit the size nut.

QUOTE(doppatroll @ May 24 2016, 09:45 AM)
Anyone from my previous post ?  sad.gif
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It depend on the condition if you plan to get one

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post May 25 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Dan430 @ May 24 2016, 08:12 PM)
Oh yes they most italian manufacturers do use loctite for their brass connections!! but may be medium strength white loctite 592 series tho!! so should not be that much of a struggle! and you are right!! man cave can't have cheap tools man!! Quality tools make a huge difference!! Have fun on your mods and yes i think u have a backup ms silvia? not sold yet?
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It may sound and look easy to be done on the video that i saw in the youtube but actually it is no easy to remove those connection pipe even for a medium strength loctite and if your not careful you might spend more then your mod as those copper pipe easily twisted and bend.

Yup, my Silvia is up for auction but seem ppl are slowing down in buying thing nowadays due to bad economy but nevertheless, i keep my Silvia in good shape and constantly upgrade them. Recently it had been upgrade with IMS shower screen and going to get a new professional Cafelat rubber gasket change and flat shower screen screw too (already brought m5x12 screw but it seem doesn't fit....well back to the drawing board). biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ymeng85 @ May 25 2016, 09:26 AM)
Will get back to you on this tonight boss  smile.gif
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Thanks bro thumbup.gif

Just wondering, anyone happens to know where can i buy coffee machine parts locally ? Shipping from overseas take very long time to reach our shores hmm.gif

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post May 26 2016, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ May 25 2016, 10:40 PM)
@d33pbluez.
You're not alone
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Then it is Confirmed that stuff is a loctite from the factory. Phew, that scare me for moment as i thought i was coffee building up on the area.

QUOTE(ycs @ May 26 2016, 10:42 AM)
busy2   thumbup.gif


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Dritan Alsela - This guy is quiet famous for pouring latte art. I remember he flew to malaysia and end up in penang. Got one cafe (I think was coffee smith) invite this guy come to do demo live at their cafe.

Update progress over my Mod.

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Getting wet dream on level mod at Nuova Simonelli Oscar already ? brows.gif
Word of advice of the day, Never hammer the gentle Oscar when dissamble for one should only caress the machine to open up for you, Overall summary Hammer = you might break alot of things... Lesson learn....

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QUOTE(Dan430 @ May 26 2016, 10:25 PM)
rclxms.gif Its getting there!! are u using the existing steam knob place? Wonder how will you cover up the hole? (Just for aesthetic pleasure) haha!!

BTW Coffee lovers if you are looking for a manual espresso maker!! Do let me know!! The thread is below:  brows.gif  brows.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry80133376
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Nice stuff from Bellman there. Initially i though of getting those bellman Bellman CX-25P before thinking of purchasing Oscar but i change my mind after that.

Yup,I will be using the same hole as the existing steam knob place. Normally after assembly the brass part will be protruding out with the level like the picture below.

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So i need to do some copper bending to see if i can get only the level protruding out then i will DIY a cover to close the side hole with some plastic cover or rubber cover which is my plan.

P/s: Speaking too soon, just notice my retaining valve C10 had degraded and brittle at the steam pipe due the beat taking from beat after years of usage. Going to order a new retaining valve c10 to replace it. Seem like Oscar internal parts are not really reliable because of all plastic inside that will fail over time of usage. Just wondering why Nuova Simonelli engineers didn't think of using brass or metal part especially parts that took alot of powerful beating like the steaml..... doh.gif

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QUOTE(luvox @ May 30 2016, 09:17 PM)
Received my Mazzer super jolly today. Taobao item RM1880 include shipment fees. Love it smile.gif[attachmentid=6738619][attachmentid=6738620]
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QUOTE(luvox @ May 30 2016, 10:54 PM)
I did survey & see taobao review b4 decide to buy. Consistant price all taobao seller. This is manual model. Cheaper than timer model. UK is selling around rm2k b4 GST, so i believe should be genuine. Taobao competative, always found item price near supplier price, low profit margin.

Weight 15.7kg. I use sea freight, took 3 weeks to arrive. 0.1 meter cubic, rm 50 shipping fees. No GST or custom tax item from taobao.

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nice stuff you got there.... I still waiting for baratza sette to release wink.gif .... one thing i notice though....anything that go through foreign normal pos then uses pos malaysia will not be charge with GST or custom tax (Well mostly as per my imported experiment done so far with item brought from italian company elektros vs us company espressoparts ) Those forwarder that uses FedEX, DHL and those big name company will kena GST and custom tax.... but that is all to change because i saw the banner that pos malaysia will also imposes tax soon (around this year).... so if you want to get anything better be fast....

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QUOTE(dwRK @ May 31 2016, 10:07 AM)
QUOTE(luvox @ May 30 2016, 08:17 PM)

FYI...assuming you gonna use the doser...my own design doser mod...drops the ground straight down...looks crude but much easier than others you'll find online...and it works smile.gif
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I did mine with paper cup on my MDF last time... Cut the paper cup bottom sharp end the form the mouthing of the doser opening.... rclxms.gif

Progress on my restoration.... You may not know how much limescale and those black stuff you have in your boiler until you take apart.

Boiler:

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Heating Element:

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QUOTE(ukiya @ May 31 2016, 12:45 PM)
For such situation, what grinders would you suggest me to grab then?
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sure they would ask you to get commercial grade grinders like super jolly or least min baratza vario. Don go for home grinder or entry level grinders (mean forget about local known brand like breville, de longhi, krups)

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[quote=ukiya,May 31 2016, 12:01 PM]
woo... ain't cheap these stuff... for entry level, any grinder?
Or I shud go straight for Super Jolly or Baratza instead? Feeling it's bit overkill at the moment if going straight for such grinder.
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Entry level are mostly those gaggia MDF, Grinta, Breville dose control pro and more...... Prefer to go straight for Baratza or Mazzer or Eureka and more because grinder can last very long (If you maintain it) and you will feel the difference between a commercial grinder vs home use grinder alot.....

[quote=luvox,May 31 2016, 01:54 PM]
I did mine with paper cup on my MDF last time... Cut the paper cup bottom sharp end the form the mouthing of the doser opening.... rclxms.gif

Progress on my restoration.... You may not know how much limescale and those black stuff you have in your boiler until you take apart.

Boiler:

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Heating Element:

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How often to descale? Any place to send espresso machine for service? How much the reasonable charges?
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1. Backflush best do it bi-weekly (Depend on how often you used the machine, for me i don used it everyday so i do it bi-weekly)
2. Descale best is do half year once, If you used filter water many be 1 year once.
3. Full overhaul strip service is about 3 years max (by then you had most item inside plastic or rubber having full wear and tear and may not be as good as before so part need to replace).

Place of service you mean where ? KL ? Penang ? i havent came to charges yet because the last time i ask, I get cold response and some no response at all (Probably i using home machine instead of commercial machine hmm.gif )

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QUOTE(Dan430 @ May 31 2016, 04:25 PM)
A good grinder will not be overkill at all coz it last (some say 10 years?) !! but I'm more of a fan of conical burrs!! u can use you hand grinder to test out the shots and see if you like them before rushing to an electronic grinder!! I'm waiting for the baratza sette to arrive because it looks promising and i can retire my hand grinder for pour overs! MyEspresso said they will bring it in and should be expecting in sept!! not sure of pricing tho!!

@d33 Walio those boilers is beat up!! lol but no worries its all copper (anti bac properties)  brows.gif oh ya coppers are very soft in nature  do not over tighten or use excessive force to open!! Great restoration project indeed!! thumbup.gif
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ahaha, Are you sure that is anti back properties ? hmm.gif

that look more like lime build up and could possibly weaken the structure of the cooper
I forgot to take the picture of the citric acid with the boiler in it..... you will be shock to see that actually there is a black layer (I don know what that called, perhaps oxide or rust, maybe ?) of coating cover over shiny copper material and it peel off like a tissue paper...

Yup, Go easy on the cooper, you might easily break or loosen the thread of the cooper.

i bet the price for baratza sette will cost at least easily 2.5k tops....Judging from the GST and custom tax that will impose on the seller and the seller to us. Original USD price cost almost 1.8K (Low version Sette 270 without the "W")
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jun 1 2016, 05:28 PM)
Yes, that Breville can give you grind consistency almost rivaling Mythos / EK. It's just not built for a high volume cafe setting. Reliability wise, not sure
I would say this machine is at a lower side of the price spectrum for commercial quality grinds. Price you need to go around hunt for deals  tongue.gif

I'll let some others comment on those China offerings. Welhome is one of them
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Heard about breville weak point is that they cant take oily beans and most of the part will tends to break.... not sure how true is that....
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jun 1 2016, 05:52 PM)
Actually other way round. Light roasted beans, especially Nordic style, might not be able to grind or even break
Oily beans a.k.a beans are much more fragile
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i think what they mean was that the oil beans tends to clogging inside the machine
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jun 1 2016, 06:13 PM)
Ahh, didn't know that
But in general oily beans are nasty for grinders...needs monthly cleaning
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There is also one report that the grinder didnt grind fine enough.... and other reported that it might have espresso grinding capabilities but it doesnt live up to the espresso grind .... it is more suitable for drip or press hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jun 2 2016, 01:28 PM)
Good deal on those grinders on taobao.

Taiwan uses 110v/60hz if I recall so you need a step down transformer to get the grinders to work on Malaysia's 230v/50hz power supply. I assume there's going to no effect on performance, just wondering if anyone's done this before?
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i had been using 110v with transformer on my grinder...there is no much of the different in the performance but you just need to spend abit more to get the transformer and little careful where you plug the devices on the transformer only.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jun 3 2016, 09:27 AM)
Thanks. I have a 110v transformer already so I might get that sette next time I'm in the US after all...  biggrin.gif
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Saw taobao already have pre order for sette about 1.7K and if you including shipping and tax that price can easily hit 2-2.3K. Why not get the 220V....save the hassle of plug into many other stuff..... i regret of getting 110v grinder.....

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jun 3 2016, 10:16 AM)
On any other occassion I would agree with you, but I already have quite a number of 110v appliances including a Kitchenaid biggrin.gif Plus I have a huge Amazon gift card to use up.
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No doubt they can be cheaper price in their retail country but shipping fee will kill you. Especially those comes from US as the fee is 3 to 5 times the fold then the item you buy (Last time i brought a plastic replacement for rm 50 only but with total cost of ship the item become rm 200 plus). Last time i order parts from US and now, i skip ordering them totally.

QUOTE(lkoky @ Jun 4 2016, 06:09 PM)
Any reasonable good espresso machine for under 1k? for personal use at home only.
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If you looking for machine, Try Philips Saeco, there is a few user here using it and there some user mod it too if im not mistake. Else you can get those portable ones like minipresso or the bellman CX series.
.With limited budget, there is no much to go around unless you pump abit then can get decent machine like gaggia or Ascaso dream up.

QUOTE(wurz @ Jun 6 2016, 02:14 AM)
Hi sifu. I've got a drip coffee machine in office, and I really like milk with my coffee. No microwave machine, so I'm thinking of getting a milk frother that heats the milk up at the same time. Any suggestions?

Don't think I can afford an Aerochino though. Something cheaper would be great. Looked through taobao a little bit, but can't read chinese, not sure what to get and how to get it over.

Thanks
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You can get those automatic milk frother machine that heat and froth your milk at the same time. You can try to ask from illy or breville they have those auto milk frother too. I haven't seen or tried one before so i cant say much about it.

Another update from my mod:

Anti Vacuum kit are up so does the boiler homemade insulation wrap.

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Water tube routing done.

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