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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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post May 8 2016, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 8 2016, 06:09 PM)
They will direct bank into your bank account. Unless you prefer to receive in cheque.
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I see, thanks for the prompt reply smile.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ May 8 2016, 06:53 PM)
I see, thanks for the prompt reply smile.gif
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post May 8 2016, 07:00 PM

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Ada ke insurance package offer as low as rm50 per month?
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post May 8 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ May 8 2016, 07:00 PM)
Ada ke insurance package offer as low as rm50 per month?
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Personal accident perhaps ?

Investment link policy minimum RM150 per month

RM50 per month is barely available nowadays.
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post May 8 2016, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ May 8 2016, 07:00 PM)
Ada ke insurance package offer as low as rm50 per month?
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unknown to many factors in you...
I found this while goggling...
try it to see if it helps?
https://uforlife.com.my/?utm_source=Google&...CFYmCvQodEQoHvQ
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post May 8 2016, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 8 2016, 07:09 PM)
unknown to many factors in you...
I found this while goggling...
try it to see if it helps?
https://uforlife.com.my/?utm_source=Google&...CFYmCvQodEQoHvQ
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if vanpersie91 is a Muslim, it doesn't seem to be a takaful plan. More like a conventional policy.
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post May 8 2016, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 8 2016, 07:19 PM)
if vanpersie91 is a Muslim, it doesn't seem to be a takaful plan. More like a conventional policy.
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hmm.gif is it a "MUST" or Mandatory that all Muslim buys takaful plan only and cannot buy conventional policy?
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post May 8 2016, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 8 2016, 07:31 PM)
hmm.gif is it a "MUST" or Mandatory that all Muslim buys takaful plan only and cannot buy conventional policy?
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It is recommended as Takaful will allow Muslims to nominate someone through Hiba(gift) so that upon their demise, they are not subject to Faraid law distribution and the full amount will be given to the person they've nominated in the policy.

In a conventional policy, there is no such clauses for muslim thus even they choose to nominate someone to receive whole lump sum, that person will just act as an executor to distribute back based on Faraid distribution.

Thus the conventional policy will defeat the purpose for a muslim to purchase as they can't choose the person they wish to give the death benefit to upon death.

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post May 8 2016, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 8 2016, 07:36 PM)
It is recommended as Takaful will allow Muslims to nominate someone through Hiba(gift) so that upon their demise, they are not subject to Faraid law distribution and the full amount will be given to the person they've nominated in the policy.

In a conventional policy, there is no such clauses for muslim thus even they choose to nominate someone to receive whole lump sum, that person will just act as an executor to distribute back based on Faraid distribution.

Thus the conventional policy will defeat the purpose for a muslim to purchase as they can't choose the person they wish to give the death benefit to upon death.
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hmm.gif so, just rewind back some "years" back,,,,before there was Takaful plan.....Muslim no buy insurance policy?
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 8 2016, 07:41 PM)
hmm.gif so, just rewind back some "years" back,,,,before there was Takaful plan.....Muslim no buy insurance policy?
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Yeap, that's right, some could have bought under the conventional policy. Takaful was created to cater that need for the Muslim market that is Shariah compliant.

The Takaful industry in Malaysia started to gain momentum when, in October 1982, the Malaysian government formed a special task force to explore the viability of setting up an Islamic insurance company. Out of that study and based on its recommendations, the Takaful Act 1984 was gazetted and came into force thereafter. At first glance, there does not appear to be much difference between conventional insurance and Takaful. Indeed, in terms of concept, there is none as both subscribes to the long established principle the “pool of the many to help the unfortunate few”.

http://www.malaysiantakaful.com.my/About-M...ory-of-MTA.aspx

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post May 8 2016, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 8 2016, 07:43 PM)
Yeap, that's right, some could have bought under the conventional policy. Takaful was created to cater that need for the Muslim market that is Shariah compliant.

The Takaful industry in Malaysia started to gain momentum when, in October 1982, the Malaysian government formed a special task force to explore the viability of setting up an Islamic insurance company. Out of that study and based on its recommendations, the Takaful Act 1984 was gazetted and came into force thereafter. At first glance, there does not appear to be much difference between conventional insurance and Takaful. Indeed, in terms of concept, there is none as both subscribes to the long established principle the “pool of the many to help the unfortunate few”.

http://www.malaysiantakaful.com.my/About-M...ory-of-MTA.aspx
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noted..... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Previously no buy insurance?.... hmm.gif
OK, for those that wanted to know more about the "The Unlawful Elements in Conventional Insurance"...can try this
http://www.lawgazette.com.sg/2012-07/469.htm
just not sure of its validity....but at least can have more understanding....



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post May 8 2016, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 8 2016, 07:09 PM)
unknown to many factors in you...
I found this while goggling...
try it to see if it helps?
https://uforlife.com.my/?utm_source=Google&...CFYmCvQodEQoHvQ
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 8 2016, 07:19 PM)
if vanpersie91 is a Muslim, it doesn't seem to be a takaful plan. More like a conventional policy.
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hmm.gif
found this from the uforlife link provided by T231h



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post May 8 2016, 10:43 PM

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Hi! I have a friend, 32ANB, male non-smoker, 175cm, 119kg, no medical history but the dad got hypertension. Is it true that he can't get medical card due to BMI exceeds 35? GE agent suggest him to take Great Early Living Care. But with budget of RM200 per month, the coverage is only RM37k. Is there any other plan that suits him to cover the medical cost?

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QUOTE(Nikky16 @ May 8 2016, 10:43 PM)
Hi! I have a friend, 32ANB, male non-smoker, 175cm, 119kg, no medical history but the dad got hypertension. Is it true that he can't get medical card due to BMI exceeds 35? GE agent suggest him to take Great Early Living Care. But with budget of RM200 per month, the coverage is only RM37k. Is there any other plan that suits him to cover the medical cost?
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Recommend Zurich Omni Health, for overweight people, see CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO
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QUOTE(Nikky16 @ May 8 2016, 10:43 PM)
Hi! I have a friend, 32ANB, male non-smoker, 175cm, 119kg, no medical history but the dad got hypertension. Is it true that he can't get medical card due to BMI exceeds 35? GE agent suggest him to take Great Early Living Care. But with budget of RM200 per month, the coverage is only RM37k. Is there any other plan that suits him to cover the medical cost?
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Your friend can still apply for insurance but subject to loading.
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post May 8 2016, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 8 2016, 11:05 PM)
Your friend can still apply for insurance but subject to loading.
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What is loading?
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post May 9 2016, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 8 2016, 11:54 PM)
What is loading?
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Means you pay extra 25% - 100% of the normal premium that people normally contribute to insure your risk.

E.g standard premium RM200, with loading, you might need to pay RM250 instead.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 9 2016, 12:01 AM)
Means you pay extra 25% - 100% of the normal premium that people normally contribute to insure your risk.

E.g standard premium RM200, with loading, you might need to pay RM250 instead.
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What about those who have existing illness before? can they apply for insurance + loading and/or insurance but excluding the existing illness?
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post May 9 2016, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 9 2016, 12:08 AM)
What about those who have existing illness before? can they apply for insurance + loading and/or insurance but excluding the existing illness?
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Depends on how severe is the existing illness, either loading, postpone, exclusion on the illness or reject
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post May 9 2016, 12:16 AM

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it is clear now, thanks @lifebalance!

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