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post Dec 28 2015, 11:47 AM, updated 10y ago

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Starting this thread as a discussion platform. There used to be a PLU Club thread in /K/, but I guess most of the members have left LYN (or maybe just lurking around, posting as dupes idunnolol).

Rules and Regulations:
- Let's be civilized.
- Any posts that contains profanities will be deleted. cool2.gif
- Let's not resort to any negative name-calling. rolleyes.gif
- It's great that you are zealous in preaching your religious belief, but please keep it to yourself smile.gif

I'll add more as and when icon_idea.gif

Purpose of this thread:
- Experience sharing
- Advice
- Knowledge-sharing
- Venting out

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post Dec 28 2015, 11:47 AM

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So, WTF is LGBTIQPA?
Well, according to Wikipedia:

L - Lesbian. Women who like women.
G - Gay. Men who like men.
B - Bisexual. Men and women who swings both ways.
T - Transgender. People who identify themselves as the opposite gender. Like moi icon_rolleyes.gif
I - Intersex. People who are born with both male and female characteristics. Or the lack of it. More on that later.
Q - Queer. People who does not conform to the idea of sexuality and gender identity
P - Pansexual. People who have sex with pans People who are attracted to people, rather than a specific gender.
A - Asexual. People who does not have any sexual attraction to anyone.

Something interesting to note: L, G, B, P, and A refers to sexuality, while T, and I refers to identity. Q just don't want to be grouped in any whistling.gif sweat.gif

Which also means that those who are in the category of T and I could be straight, lesbian/gay, bisexual, pansexual or asexual brows.gif

Ok, dafuq is "sexuality"?
"Sexuality" is "who you are attracted to".

How about "gender identity"?
"Gender identity" is the gender that you identify yourself with. Nothing to do with your sausage or siham whistling.gif

Ok, does that mean I can simply identify myself as a girl despite having a sausage, or a guy despite having a siham?
Nope, it doesn't work that way sweat.gif. Gender is a fundamental element of a person's identity that affects emotions, identity, social interactions, sexual relations and self image. You can't claim to be a guy or a girl when you can't even relate to being one nod.gif

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How do people turn gay/lesbian/bisexual/transsexual/pansexual/asexual?
Good question. Most are who they are because that's how they are. Just like how some people are born left-handed. Sure, you may argue that right or left-handedness (is there such word?) could be acquired, but that would take years of practice. Similarly, if you're straight, it takes a massive effort to make you bengkok (gay/lesbian lah). If you're totally masculine, it'll take a massive effort to turn you into a fabulous female (especially if you dun wan to take hormone lor).

Having said that, I do observe that serious trauma could be a factor as to why a person would be gay/lesbian/bisexual/transsexual/pansexual/asexual (do note i mention "serious", and it "could be a factor"). Though i do feel that they are likely to be bisexual or pansexual deep down (closet case).

Then how do you explain those ex-gay/lesbian/bisexual/transsexual/pansexual/asexual?
Another good question. People do change. It could be that they were never gay/lesbian/bisexual/transsexual/pansexual/asexual to begin with. It could also be that they were with the wrong crowd, etc. Else how would you explain the ex-straight? tongue.gif

Does gay conversion therapy work?
Feedback I've seen so far indicated that such therapy doesn't work, and even some of the practitioners renounced the practice. Here's an article on gay conversion for your perusal: http://www.nclrights.org/bornperfect-the-f...ersion-therapy/.

I need help about my sexuality/gender identity... Who could I talk to?
Some number to call for supports, especially to those that suffer tremendous stress because of their identity/sexuality issues

Befrienders.org
KL / Selangor
03-79568144 or 03-79568145

Malacca
06-2842500

Penang
04-2815161 / 04-2811108

Ipoh
05-5477933 / 05-5477599

Seremban
06-7653588 / 06-7653589

Lifeline Association of Malaysia
Counselling tel: 03-92850039 / 03-92850049 / 03-92850279

AGAPE Counselling Centre Malaysia
Counselling Hotline: 03-77855955 / 03-77855689 / 03-77810800

Directory of Counselling Service
MMHA Directory

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Hi, I'm gay/lesbian/bisexual/transsexual/queer/pansexual/asexual. Should I stay closeted, or should I come out?
Well, that is up to you. But be warned; it'll not be an easy journey.

Let me share my story first. I realized that I'm not comfortable being a guy when I was 14. That realization came with the awareness that if I were to start transitioning there and then, I might as well say goodbye to whatever ambition I have. So, I made it a point to do well in my studies. And this goes on until I graduated from university (yep, a degree holder, but not as keng as Ahmad Maslan laugh.gif).

When I joined the workforce, one of my ex-bosses gave me this advice; your life as a transwoman will be hard, you need to build up your portfolio before you transition. I took his advice to heart (though at the same time he asked if he could be my first one after surgery... that jerk...), and started my transition only at the end of 2009. At that time I was working at a callcenter; the boss was accepting, the colleagues was accepting, awsm.

The moment I went public about transitioning, I lost a number of friends, but gained a number in return. My relationship with my mom improved (yup! she's happier with a daughter! yippeee~!), but my dad grew distant. Relationship-wise... well, I'm not that attractive, so...

So yeah, if you have a lot to lose, and you're not ready to lose them, don't. It's not compulsory for you to come out of the closet anyway. But if you feel that staying in the closet is more burdensome than coming out, by all means go ahead. If you're not sure, feel free to approach me via PM or face-to-face.

By the way, if you're a transsexual, susah sikit la you nak stay in the closet sweat.gif

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I want to share some knowledge as well.

OP
-Original Poster / Post
-used to refer to the topic starter or the content of the 'original post' itself


Faggot
-a bunch of sticks, tied and bundled together

Will update soon for more popular web culture lingos.
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Sodomy is a crime in malaysia, else anwar would not have been convicted.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jan 1 2016, 07:38 PM)
Sodomy is a crime in malaysia, else anwar would not have been convicted.
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some girl also like anal sex liao. how?
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QUOTE(sassyset @ Jan 4 2016, 03:27 PM)
some girl also like anal sex liao. how?
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Then you better hope the girl is not a female version of saiful..haha
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jan 4 2016, 05:05 PM)
Then you better hope the girl is not a female version of saiful..haha
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no seriously. am talking about a girl who was born a girl. not the post-op transsexual version smile.gif

i guess your interaction with girls are limited to those who are actually transsexuals brows.gif
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Nice thread you got here @sassyset ! Hope it grows without too much ignorance popping up every now and then! And yes, I have met girls, who were born girls, who like just what you said! Cheers!
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QUOTE(mypagan_26 @ Jan 4 2016, 05:46 PM)
Nice thread you got here @sassyset ! Hope it grows without too much ignorance popping up every now and then! And yes, I have met girls, who were born girls, who like just what you said! Cheers!
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why girls turn lesbian?
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QUOTE(persona93 @ Jan 4 2016, 06:17 PM)
why girls turn lesbian?
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because they are attracted to other girls smile.gif

by the way, you might want to read the following:

1) https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sax-se...ian-or-bisexual

2) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-...deos-sexes.html

the next question would be whether this is a biological trait, or neurological
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Hi, was wondering, what is the difference between Bisexual and Pansexual?
cause it seems the same to me. Any specific difference?
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Hi, was wondering, what is the difference between Bisexual and Pansexual?
cause it seems the same to me. Any specific difference?
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the difference is that pansexuals are more into personalities (the way you talk, your intelligence, etc). bisexuals still go for looks (physical attributes like figure, complexion, the smile, etc)

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