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skty
post May 9 2019, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(rivetindigo @ May 9 2019, 10:31 AM)
Hi,

Im having a bit of dilemma.

As u all might heard, maybank will increase it redemption for airmiles by 10%.

So as a newbie in this game i have accumulated 400,000 tp in 4 months time. The situation is i need to redeem this TP to airmiles before 1/6/2019 (before the increase).

The dilemma is i have 60,000 EM(got it from CIMB Enrich programme) and 400,000TP, to which airmiles should i redeem it to EM/KF/AM?
Need to fly to Tokyo for 2 person.

Current redemption for 1 pax to tokyo:
EM: 130,000
AM: 100,000
KF: 180,000
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those points is for which airline?
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post May 23 2019, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ May 15 2019, 10:02 AM)
No, they won’t release as award to fill it full even they can’t sell in cash ticket , this apply to especially sq
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hmm.. mean it's very hard to be able to redeem suite/business class SQ ticket using KF?

QUOTE(isaacchew @ May 15 2019, 09:03 PM)
Okay, I completed the Comparison table between EM/KF/AM for some popular destinations:
Frequent Flyer Comparison

All amounts are for return flights, based on the cheapest redemption ticket (Basic on EM, Saver on KF, Standard on AM). No doubt these miles required might not be available when you book due to availability / wishlist issues, but it serves as a good benchmark.
(p.s. I don't have sufficient miles in my AM account that's why I'm unable to check the taxes required for J class redemption)

My conclusions are:
1. EM is good for Economy Class if you want direct flights out from KUL, but only to the rather limited routes it flies to. EM is poor value if you're redeeming Business Class
2. KF & AM is good in that you can fly to many other cities, but the downside (or maybe an upside?) is that there's an additional transit.
3. AM has way higher taxes. (Some of you have mentioned that AM requires less miles than KF, but I don't see too much of a difference, unless perhaps it's because I'm comparing the baseline cheapest redemption amounts?).
4. KF there's potential to redeem their impressive Suites Class & AM you can get Qatar QSuites or JAL Suites.
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thank you for your effort. Looks like KF is the best option due to:
1) lower KF amount needed
2) lower taxes
3) Singapore is near to Malaysia, easier and more convenient to transit
4) SQ is the best airline year 2019

QUOTE(kit615 @ May 16 2019, 10:31 AM)
I will give some sample tax/charges on AM for the rest of your comparisons:

1. Tokyo - RM720
2. New York / LA - RM1347
3. Milan - RM1210
4. Paris - RM1517
5. London - RM2086
6. Sydney - RM1433

I would say this comparison is the absolute basic usage for the Frequent Flyer program, as you can get even better value when you look at other aspects of the programs, such as partner redemption etc, for example:

1. you can use KF miles to fly to Dubai at 49k, then spend another 29k on star alliance flights to europe, it is cheaper than outright redemption on SQ to europe, with a stopover (currently there is promotion flying to dubai for only 34k) but with a bit more taxes.

2. For AM, you would not redeem CX to fly to Australia as that is taking the long way. You could just outright redeem MH or even QF flights with less miles and shorter travel time.

3. If you look at Multi carrier award redemption for Asiamiles, you may get some seriously outsized value. for example flying to NYC cost 170k miles, if you use MCA, it will cost 165k miles, and you can take some extra flights up to 20000 miles total travel distance, eg you can go via hong kong with cx and return with AA + JL with a stop at Hawaii and Tokyo

So my conclusion is use KF miles if you want to fly SQ, because redeeming on other partners (with the exception on some routes) will cost you as much taxes as they did on AM. I find AM generally gives better value and flexibility, unless Im fixated on flying SQ suites.
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why you say AM generally gives better value and flexbility?
skty
post May 23 2019, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kit615 @ May 23 2019, 10:07 AM)
Because AM require less miles on almost all routes, MCA let u fly several airlines on one ticket, etc.

Also for long haul flights (13h+) I will always prefer to break the flight into 2 segment and sometimes I purposely arrange overnight layover, this is much more manageable when Im traveling with young children, so the idea of spending 14hours on SQ to Europe etc with young children does not appeal to me.
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from the comparison AM requires the most miles compare to KF.

why you say AM requires less miles?

btw what is MCA?

thanks
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post May 23 2019, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(charlesj @ May 23 2019, 01:07 PM)
MCA is MIC friend lo. Jk.
MCA = multi carrier award, fly on different airlines under one ticket.

If you are new to miles, ignore this.
Go for simple and direct redemption.

Generally, both KF and AM have their own pros and cons.
If you have fixed destination, check which airlines has direct flight or flight best suit you.
If not mistaken, CX do fly more cities compare to SQ.

If you have no plan and just wanna try flying business, I suggest Australia is a good spot to start with (but don't fly on CX).
Else check those European cities that SQ/CX have direct flight.
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I look at world map. The only convenience flight using CX is to Russia, Korea, Taiwan, China, USA, Canada and those north/south america countries.

Other country is like spend extra time to fly to Hong Kong first. But this gives opportunity to explore Hong Kong if got a layover.

thinking to go to Paris. still studying about air miles.
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post May 23 2019, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(herc @ May 23 2019, 02:37 PM)
if u exKUL via HKG using AM, Frankfurt/Amsterdam/Zurich/Rome/Milan is 65k 1way under Long1 zone, other EU cities which CX fly need 85k. Use www.gcmap.com, not any worldmap.
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ok. I look at world map to compare the distance. Not miles required.

distance = time spend on the flight.
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post May 26 2019, 05:16 PM

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how's enrich redemption process?

also need to be in the waiting list?
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post May 26 2019, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 26 2019, 05:20 PM)
Enrich is revenue based thus your miles only offset the cost needed by deducting miles based on certain value per mile they have set
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looking at the redemption chart of enrich, it use zone instead of revenue. why?

they have fixed the miles required based on zone.

https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/enri...-alliances.html
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post May 26 2019, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(mr.thinkpad @ May 26 2019, 05:46 PM)
that for oneworld alliance, not mh metal
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oic. my bad.
if enrich redemption is based on revenue, 1 enrich miles is equivalent to how much RM?

weird, I try to test the enrich redemption. I can't find the way to redeem using enrich miles.

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post May 27 2019, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(act one @ May 27 2019, 09:37 AM)
My previous redeem trip using KF is confirm one trip then another trip is on waiting list (going to euro in waiting list, return to SG had confirm).

Then I start playing with another date (going to euro), keep changing and wait for week.

finally less than a month of trying I get the confirmation(going to euro) 3 month before the flight. Again, my return to SG had confirm early.
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Meaning your return date is confirmed at date A.
And then you play around the go date and get confirmation. So this mean it will either make your trip longer or shorter right? Since your return date is fixed.
And both go and return trip that you get immediate confirmation after you try and error, is for saver?
The flight is what year’s version of j class?
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post May 27 2019, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ May 27 2019, 04:36 PM)
except be flexible with date, can be flexible with carrier also, I alr have an inbound flight from US this coming early September , but have yet to book the outbound flight from Singapore yet , which is set to travel at end of August...haha
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Bro, your inbound flight is SQ? Get it after wait in waitlist or straight get confirmation on the spot of booking?

Advantage mean can get immediate confirmation right? Only saver need to waitlist.

Booking star alliance airlines in one way trip award ticket won’t cost a bomb (compared to return trip)?

The waitlist of those airlines is it as hard to get as SQ?
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post May 27 2019, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ May 27 2019, 04:49 PM)
ANA to Tokyo and transit with SQ, so is star alliance pricing.

Sometimes advantage also need waitlist or even not available, all depend on inventory control.

Star alliance airline one way is half the miles of return trip.

U can’t waitlist on star alliance award, only can waitlist with sq
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Your ANA to Tokyo and transit with SQ is booked using saver or advantage?

How long you waited for the confirmation?

You mention we can’t waitlist on star alliance award, only can waitlist with SQ. What if we redeem award ticket that doesn’t involve SQ at all?
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post May 27 2019, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ May 27 2019, 05:10 PM)
I book under star alliance award chart, they only have one pricing, technically is ‘saver’. No waitlist is allow , so is direct confirmation, booked on January.

If your itenery involve carrier other than sq, even if sq is part of the itinerary, it will fall under star alliance award chart, so no waitlist .
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so the best way is to redeem star alliance which don't need to waitlist, subject to availability. If available, can get direct confirmation.

but the surcharge is huge, that's the negative part of it.

Right?

QUOTE(act one @ May 27 2019, 06:00 PM)
yes, return date confirm, but i still can cancel since both flight is not confirm.

I actual plan in December, since cant confirm date on both time and weather super cold, i change to March.
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how long they allow you to drag to confirm taking the return flight?
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post May 28 2019, 02:42 AM

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For Asia Miles, what is the different between "Asia Miles Mixed-carrier Awards" and "oneworld Multi-carrier Award"?
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post May 29 2019, 11:28 PM

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Hi guys, anyone know for KF Advantage / AM Choice / AM Tailored, need to waitlist? Or just better priority to get first in the waitlist compare to KF Saver / AM Standard?
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post May 29 2019, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ May 29 2019, 11:45 PM)
KF advantage have better avaibility over saver , but sometimes do waitlist or even not available as well

AM choice is like KF saver, tailored is like KF advantage
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AM choice is like KF saver? Then what is AM standard?

when you say better availibility mean can confirm on the spot or better availibility in term of getting priority in waitlist?

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post May 29 2019, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(lilsunflower @ May 29 2019, 11:52 PM)
Finally redeemed TPs and last minute decided to dump in Enrich for the convenience of departing from KL. My thinking is that TPs can be earned, but time and convenience (especially when travelling with kids) can't.

Does anyone know how long it takes for miles to appear in Enrich account?  CS told me 5 working days, but hope I will see them sooner than that (paranoid if system glitches etc).
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Going with MH or oneworld? brows.gif
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post May 30 2019, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ May 29 2019, 11:58 PM)
Oh sorry, choice can book the ticket 360 days in advance , one week earlier than standard, by right, they should have better availability as they charge higher miles, this is also what claimed by asiamiles. Doesn’t means can comfirm on the spot, waitlist is still a norm even for choice award in asiamiles, in term of waitlist , I can’t comfirm but I do believe standard have priority over choice
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how come standard have priority over choice as choice need higher miles?

So for AM priority:

choice > standard but both also need waitlist and never have the chance to be confirmed on the spot.

So for KF priority:

advantange > saver but both also need waitlist and never have the chance to be confirmed on the spot.

correct?

how long is AM waitlist until it can be confirmed?

I read back this thread ppl are talking about 14 days prior departure for KF.

many thanks and sorry for all those endless noob questions.
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post May 31 2019, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(SkyX @ May 30 2019, 10:52 AM)
I've never redeemed for Skyteam flights, but I read the easiest way to search for Air France award space is via KLM website (have to register their FFP first to search).

Besides Enrich charge exorbitant miles + passes on YQ on partner airlines, so never bothered with it anyway haha
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AM YQ also doh.gif unless some airline like Qatar.

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post Jun 5 2019, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(jkngo2003 @ Jun 4 2019, 04:00 PM)
i plan go from hong kong to kuala lumpur at 18 july 2019. can some one teach me how to redeem the ticket with asiamlies.

which airline is more valuable
i have 40000 asiamiles point and want to book for 3 pax.

thanz
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if you have no experience in this, recommend you to just stick with CX and redeem through asiamiles website.

if you know how to redeem partner airlines, you can check using:

oneworld : AA website
Star Alliance : ANA website

those are few best search engine.
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post Jun 6 2019, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(act one @ Jun 6 2019, 02:08 PM)
For AM,
best is confirm your flight number that you want to take, and available seat.
Call AM regarding the redemption, pay the airport charges.

Using form will take longer time, which might end up in the ocean.
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offline charges will take place if those can be booked online

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