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post Dec 22 2015, 06:34 PM

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Hi all. I'm not a frequent flyer, so I have no elite status with any airlines. I have however travelled on a fair share of airlines in Y, PE, J and F class. Both my wife and I work full time so we treasure whatever time we can get for our vacation (away from the kids). J and F class flights are nearly always redeemed with miles.

My 2015 travel year in review:

New Cities/Towns: Helsinki, Ivalo, Saariselkä village - Finland; Berlin, Prague, Kraków, Budapest, Vienna - Eastern Europe; Madrid, Toledo, Barcelona, Granada, Ronda, Andalucian white villages, Seville - Spain

New Countries: Finland, Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Austria, Spain

New Airports: HEL, IVL, TXL, VIE, MAD, BCN, SVQ

New Airlines: Iberia, Vueling

New flight experience: BA's backward facing Club World seats - never again

Best flight experience: LHR-KUL MH A380 Business class (excellent service from the crew)

Shortest Flight: AK6461 SBW-KCH - 0h 40m

Longest Flight: BA034 KUL-LHR - 13h 40m

Similarly, I have no elite status as far as hotel chains go (just HHonors Gold from the MBB card). I like to try different types of hotels depending on the destination. Some memorable stays in 2015 include Kakslauttanen glass igloo, Saariselkä, Waldorf Astoria Berlin, Sofitel Vienna and Alfonso XIII, Seville.

Would love to discuss miles accumulation strategies and tactics with everyone, the nature of some may necessitate private messages. Hope to learn and share with everyone here!
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post Dec 22 2015, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(JC_jun @ Dec 22 2015, 06:41 PM)
you redeemed flights in J and F, purely from the miles you earned by CC?
roughly how much miles you earned per year.

i earned about 140k miles this year, via flight and CC spending (including the bonus miles from enrich promo), but still not enough to redeem 2 seat in J for anyplace above Zone 3.
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Both my wife and I usually earn around the same as you but that's not including purchases made on behalf of our businesses, friends and relatives (who are supportive of my obsession with miles and points). Although there is a wealth of information on travel hacking online, few are directly relevant to us in Bolehland. That is what compelled me to share more on this forum. With 140k miles you can fly up to 20,000 miles in business class under AM oneworld Multi-Carrier award (AMOMC). If you want two seats, you can fly up to 4,000 miles at 70k miles each. Wait and earn more miles or just take a shorter trip. Either way, you are flying business class for peanuts! Enjoy it! Sometimes when I am short of miles, I will "purchase" miles by charging certain transactions with merchants and paying the 1.x% on their behalf. At our current exchange rate and based on my research on flyertalk, this is the cheapest way to "purchase" miles. Malaysia Boleh!

QUOTE(Yippie123 @ Dec 22 2015, 06:47 PM)
Lol. We all know your travel glories through the threads... Are you in travel agent business? smile.gif
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My aim was not to impress but to distinguish myself from true-blue elite status frequent flyers like yourself based on your recent posts in other threads. Hence the introduction here. A few years ago I was wasting away valuable treatpoints on stupid Parkson vouchers for crying out loud! Just amazed at the stupendous value by converting to business and first class tickets, especially F. Am here to learn and share, but my knowledge is limited to miles & points strategies mainly.

QUOTE(tishaban @ Dec 22 2015, 07:32 PM)
Thanks JC_jun for starting this.

I'm not a frequent flyer (anymore), now down to maybe 2-3 medium/long haul flights a year but still enjoy the occasional J and F flights on revenue or miles. My target in general have been long haul J for the whole family, which unfortunately limits me to CX and QR mostly, but can't compain.

I am fortunate enough to have US based credit cards which is where I've earned most of my miles. I am happy to answer questions on AAdvantage and UA Mileageplus programs, and also about US based UR/MR points although there are lot more experienced people on flyertalk biggrin.gif
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Sifu tishaban, I would be grateful if you can share strategies for J redemption for the whole family (I have four kids, like bro Gen-X but slightly younger lol). Also, any chance of me getting a US based CC while based here?
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:42 PM

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post Dec 22 2015, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Dec 22 2015, 10:46 PM)
First, strategies change with time as airlines adapt, so as usual YMMV.
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I should ask you where you're doing this, but offline of course biggrin.gif I haven't had the need to do it recently, have done it before but the avenues have closed for me recently.
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notworthy.gif Thank you so much. Had a look and you're right, CX J and even F showing up to 4 seats for Dec 23rd. Being the A380 junkie that I am, was already eyeing BKK-AUH-CDG for the wife and I but if 2F +4J is possible, that would be the coolest way to bring the kids to Disneyland Paris, say 2017.

Thanks also for the info on US credit cards. Only interested to book Etihad Apartments to be honest and you've rightly pointed out the earning rates of MBB Amex Reserve/VI are hard to beat.

Most of the miles purchase transactions are legitimate monthly transactions with a few vendors. Just need to cover the merchant fees for the towkays to allow me to swipe with my credit card. I have a KL-based friend in interior design who racks up RM200-350k per month on behalf of his clients. He only flies in F. flex.gif
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post Dec 23 2015, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(JC_jun @ Dec 23 2015, 12:45 AM)
this only offer to sarawak people?
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I think MBB just wants money, regardless of whether it's from Sarawakians or otherwise smile.gif
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post Dec 23 2015, 04:09 PM

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For reference:

KF/SQ:

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AMOMC:

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I have only redeemed MH using enrich portal online. No experience calling them for OMC redemptions. From the charts I don't see why we should bother.

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post Dec 23 2015, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(JC_jun @ Dec 23 2015, 04:30 PM)
ic, then i better save my mbb point for AM.

how this multi carrier works?

if i want to book a 13k miles route, "KUL-LHR (MH), LHR-KUL (BA)", so in AM consider as zone-08 10k-14k miles?
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Yes, for 115k AM. Compare that to your standard 127,500 Enrich Miles redemption. Now just top up a bit to 155k you get to fly in F.
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post Dec 25 2015, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(Brandon323 @ Dec 25 2015, 01:51 AM)
Seems like Enrich vs AM, the big difference is not in business class but first class. Enrich needs 442,000 enrich miles redemption whereas AM only need 155,000? I have not converted my Maybank points to AM before. For AM redemption , we have to call right? Is there any online redemption like Enrich? Might be worth it to collect 2 or 3 years for a once in a lifetime trip on first class for 2 ( for me lah). tongue.gif  Who in the right mind pay RM35,000 for a ticket to London? rclxub.gif
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For AMOMC redemptions you gotta call up (and make sure you have a cup of coffee and some snacks ready as it will be a loooong call).

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post Dec 25 2015, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(JC_jun @ Dec 25 2015, 11:01 AM)
Anyone can share about award ticket with SQ krisflyer? Like availability, worth or not.
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It all depends. What is your intended destination(s)? What are your travel dates? How much flexibility do you have? Are you aiming for Suites, First Class, Business etc?

Redemption is very easy to do online and their call support is excellent, if the need arises. Transfer times for Maybank TPs to KF is fast and efficient, just call the number behind your card.
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post Dec 26 2015, 06:51 AM

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A Chinese billionaire will never have to pay for a plane ticket again, after he accrued a staggering number of air miles using his American Express card to buy a $170m painting.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/...ni-nude-on-amex

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post Jan 4 2016, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(JC_jun @ Jan 1 2016, 01:11 AM)
bro, CX flight not easy to redeem, only limited seats available, most likely you wont be able to book.
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The above is true.

I know there is the waitlist feature but in my experience they don't clear real-time. Unless you have nothing better to do except call AM/MPC every day to check, chances are (if you're a Mr Nobody like me) your seats will be grabbed by elite status members of MPC /oneworld carriers.

So in terms of valuation of Asia Miles, I agree with sifu tishaban the figure is around USD0.015 but only for elite status members. For those with no status like me, I would value them even lower because like JC_jun said, redemption is very hard, near impossible for some routes. Enrich is different, availability for J class at least is mostly assured.


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post Jan 4 2016, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jan 4 2016, 01:35 PM)
Hypothetical question, would you spend 120k miles on an Etihad Residence redemption? Compared to about half for a regular CX or JL first class?
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Residence or Apartments? I didn't know Residence was redeemable.


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post Jan 4 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jan 4 2016, 03:49 PM)
Still wondering if it's worth spending all those miles, almost double a typical first class trip when I don't have a lot to burn biggrin.gif
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I will definitely think it's worth it, judging from the reviews and pictures online. Single-aisle cabin on a A380? The space must be incredible. Plus, you get to shower in the sky minus all the gaudy EK bling. I just wished I had ways to redeem it!
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post Jan 5 2016, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(cgoh83 @ Jan 5 2016, 01:53 PM)
Now to figure out how to get to AUH or DXB from KL. Maybe I will try SIA.
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QR via BKK or SQ via SIN??

Mind sharing how to redeem EY F with Msian credit cards? smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2016, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(JC_jun @ Jan 5 2016, 10:48 PM)
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Amex platinum charge card, use MR to redeem EY miles.
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Thanks for the "spoon-feeding" biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2016, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(cgoh83 @ Jan 6 2016, 11:05 AM)
The way is to use Maybank Premier Treatspoint. Requires 500k treatpoints, or roughly RM100k spend if purely on AMEX.
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Just got off the phone with MBB rep. In short: has to be Amex Platinum Charge or Credit card. Treatpoints earned under Diamanté, Amex Reserve+VI combo not eligible for redemption for EY Guest Miles or EK Skywards Miles.

Back to square one for me as my Amex card just does not bring in that many miles. EY Apartments will remain a dream for me for some time yet.
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post Jan 6 2016, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(cgoh83 @ Jan 6 2016, 11:51 AM)
Let me make your dream come true then! biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Ta, you're a legend mate. I have seen the light!

Thanks to JC_jun for starting this thread and all who have been helpful with tips and comments.

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post Jan 6 2016, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jan 6 2016, 01:49 PM)
Wakaka share the joy my friend biggrin.gif
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Joy was short-lived: availability for AUH-LHR is there, but will cost nearly 120k miles one-way (with conversion loss). Apartments. Keen, but not THAT keen.

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post Jan 6 2016, 04:20 PM

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I plugged in end of Nov and got 88k miles one way. Multiplied that by 1.35.

Anyhow, I've carved out under AMOMC SIN-BKK-DOH-CDG, LHR-SIN. First class lounges at BKK and DOH via QR F. Concorde Room at LHR on return via BA F. Itching to try the new BA F on LHR-KUL so might swap SIN with KUL. All this for 155k miles. Now that will be comparable to your AA redemptions.

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QUOTE(cgoh83 @ Jan 6 2016, 04:26 PM)
You are looking at the wrong redemption chart. Should not be looking at Etihad Guest but the rewards program that you will be booking from. Just like AA, it is 40k to redeem, not 88k.
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Noted with thanks. Very tempted to splurge and try say LHR-AUH-BOM. Other destinations not quite on my radar (I've got a visit to the States later this year so JFK is out. Don't see me flying to SYD or MEL via AUH also for now).

I have no doubt that EY F is the current yardstick by which all other F products are measured (AF's La Première is another must-try). Makes SQ Suites and QR F (my initial redemption choices for 2016-17) seem a bit bleh. Sigh.

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