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charlesj
post Mar 18 2019, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(NIckLJF @ Mar 18 2019, 09:45 AM)
Hi all sifu,

Got a question regarding Enrich. I have just redeemed Maybank Treatpoints for Enrich and the CS told me its 14 working days.

Anyone got experience? Does it take so long?

Thanks in advance!
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Usually 2-5 days
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post Mar 18 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(lilsunflower @ Mar 18 2019, 05:05 AM)
Hi everyone, I'm a total newbie to KF redemption and have been reading up on the Waitlist system but wanted to seek your advice before I commit to converting all my TPs to KF.

Situation: I need to book one ticket from KL to Paris / Amsterdam in December (peak Christmas period) and don't really care whether its J or Y class (although preference is J if available). After arriving in Paris / Amsterdam, I will book a separate low-cost flight to my destination city (a small city in France).

Flights to Paris are generally "Not Available" or "Waitlisted" (for both J and Y), while there are some Available Y flights to Amsterdam (however, not on my preferred dates).

Questions:

1. Can I first waitlist all my preferred flights (e.g. J and Y to Paris, J and Y to Amsterdam) then CONFIRM an available Y to Amsterdam (which is not on my preferred date)?  On a worst case scenario, I don't mind taking the Y to Amsterdam flight, but if my waitlisted flights become available, can I change to one of those instead? If so, what are the procedures and extra charges?

2. Has anyone had experience being on KF waitlist for Y to Europe during peak holiday period?  If so, what is the "normal" wait time?  I don't know if I should just CONFIRM the Y ticket to Amsterdam, or try my luck with the waitlist for my preferred flights?

3. Is there a "better" way to get to Europe with roughly the same number of points (e.g. 73k for Y, 184k for J), but without the uncertainty of the waitlist system? 

Sorry if my questions are very ignorant, but I would greatly appreciate any guidance you could provide, or even point me to some reading material for me to educate myself.  Thanks in advance.
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You may waitlist those J class tickets... for Y class, only waitlist those you preferred
No point confirm Y class to Ams (since it is not your preferred choice, unless it is J)
Still have several months to go, check for seats availability every few weeks.
Worse case, just buy an economy ticket rather than waste your miles on Y (unless you miles is expiring).

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post Mar 18 2019, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(lilsunflower @ Mar 18 2019, 12:28 PM)
Thanks everyone for your tips, I really appreciate the help, especially as I'm pretty new to this and have only redeemed airmiles (Enrich) a couple of times on Y in the past (which took me forever to accumulate, as I used to spend on M2Plat + other cashback cards).  Now I've switched spending to M2Premier, I have some hope of getting J tickets before my TPs expire.

My miles are not expiring (as I haven't converted my TPs yet) so I still have flexibility.

Economy ticket on my preferred dates would cost RM3.6k which is still pretty cheap, whist Y redemption (1 day off from my preferred date) is 76k miles + RM212 only.

Dilemma is now whether I want to be generous by gifting a J ticket and going through the hassle of waitlist / checking flights, or just be cheap and burn some miles on Y redemption which would take me about 2-3 months to accumulate the required TPs.  If I was the traveller, I would definitely go all out to get my J ticket!
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Dec is still long to go.
RM3.6k with 76k miles is simply not worth it.
I will not hesitate will purchase with cash and added 4k miles tongue.gif
Unless you have secured 1 way J ticket and struggle to find the return way (buying 1 way ticket is quite expensive), then you may forced to redeem for Y ticket.

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post Mar 24 2019, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ Mar 23 2019, 09:35 PM)
krislfyer just devalue star alliance redemption chart, I remember the last devaluation for star alliances chart was just around one years ago, seems like devaluation become more and more frequent
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SA devaluation is expected after KF own devaluation early this year. You can still book a few routes on SA which is cheaper than SIA before 16 April. Most of the SA flight will be equivalent to KF own chart after this.
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post Mar 25 2019, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(owodog91 @ Mar 25 2019, 11:52 AM)
This i totally agree..

Need to save more point for further J class redemption
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Your redemption value is ok, quite decent.
At least you get about 5 cents / mile (definitely can't compare to J class).
This is especially true when you have excessive Enrich miles.

Equivalent route with KF will cost 152k miles!
MAS J class redemption is overpriced ~500k miles for two return tickets!

I am still exploring how to best utilize the Enrich miles...

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post Mar 25 2019, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ Mar 25 2019, 12:17 PM)
As u said, if want redeem economy, use enrich.
Some people are just swimming in miles, they just want to pay as little upfront cash as possible.
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Will not waste miles on Y
Any good trick to get good value for J class (with Enrich)?
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post Mar 25 2019, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ Mar 25 2019, 02:00 PM)
I am not that into enrich, but overall the value is bad with premium cabin
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Neither me, hardly fly MAS nowadays.
But my dad has some good amount of Enrich miles to get rid of.
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post Mar 25 2019, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(isaacchew @ Mar 25 2019, 08:02 PM)
On Enrich, just from observation, KL-Tokyo Business Class flights seem to require a lot less miles (100-130k return) than to other similar distance routes.
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Yea. Short distance - Japan, China, HK seem getting better value compare to Europe / Aus.
Even OW rate isn't too attractive.
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post Mar 30 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(rivetindigo @ Mar 30 2019, 04:45 PM)
Hi, i was playing around with krisflyer miles redemption, whats the difference between this two:

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Less chance to get a saver ticket compare to advantage and hence the extra miles
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post Mar 30 2019, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(rivetindigo @ Mar 30 2019, 09:37 PM)
If i need confirm seats, means i need to get advantage?

Sorry im really new with this airmiles thing...🙏
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If you MUST fly on that day and have excessive miles, go ahead.
Not many people has the luxury to pay for advantage ticket, especially first class advantage.
You may wait for a while and hope for more available seats (for saver ticket), but of course you may also risk the seat being taken up (again if you are compulsory to fly on only this plane on this particular date).

For me, I will not waste my miles on advantage ticket, unless when travel on 2, but really no option left (ie 1 saver; 1 advantage)

Added: 130k MAS business vs 140k SQ first, that's a no-brainer!
Nevertheless, it is much easy to secure a seat from MAS compare to SQ

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post Mar 30 2019, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(rivetindigo @ Mar 30 2019, 09:53 PM)
Ok understood.

When will i be notified once our seat is confirmed upon booking for the saver tix? Cause need to book ground arrangement etc...
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If it is not under waitlist, you can get a confirmed ticket immediately. Of course you need to have sufficient miles in your account.
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post Mar 31 2019, 04:30 AM

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QUOTE(ProxMatoR @ Mar 31 2019, 12:24 AM)
afaik, saver ticket once all out, means all out. got "more available seats" for saver one ah? hahaha....

I only did once redemption and is saver, not clear about this waitlist thing. i have a question about this, isn't it usually redemption by points are immediate confirmation, unless it stated under waitlist?

i got mine as confirmed seat tho.
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Airlines will gradually open more seats for redemption, especially when departure date is near and still a lot vacant seats (at the same time will approve those on waitlist).

Yup, unless waitlist, you get immediate confirmation after paying airport tax etc.


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post Apr 1 2019, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(billywee @ Apr 1 2019, 12:21 AM)
Thanks for the info!!

I realize the higher charge compare to SQ but the route I want on SQ have to waitlist and I need to have a confirm date to plan my trip, so, got no choice.

But.. can try Qatar business also not bad haha tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2019, 11:28 AM

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Anyone spot it? biggrin.gif

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Airmiles redemption rate is reduced to 6000 from 7000. - Edit: may not correct, i think it was refer to BIG point redemption at 6000.
Nevertheless, it is still lower than the initial 5000.
Hopefully this is not typo as the redemption catalogue is still showing 7000 (till 31-Mar).
Looks like at lot people are dumping their Amb CC and they need extra effort to gain back the crowd.
Haha!

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post Apr 2 2019, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 2 2019, 12:16 PM)
5 points per RM spend overseas....still not as good as ambank's vi/m2p.....but the wmc will save you about 1 Sen per RM due to lower FC conversion charges.....
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Of course still not as good as mbb, at least we start seeing CC improve on our benefits (rather than all time devaluation).

Amb was my main overseas card, and thanks for its devaluation, I had switched into m2p and my miles are double in no time biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(charlesj @ Apr 2 2019, 11:28 AM)
Anyone spot it? biggrin.gif

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Airmiles redemption rate is reduced to 6000 from 7000.
Nevertheless, it is still lower than the initial 5000.
Hopefully this is not typo as the redemption catalogue is still showing 7000 (till 31-Mar).
Looks like at lot people are dumping their Amb CC and they need extra effort to gain back the crowd.
Haha!
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I think i was wrong about this.
After reconfirm from Amb redemption catalogue, i noticed that 6000 point = 1000 BIG point!!!
Sorry for the wrong info~

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post Apr 6 2019, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(isaacchew @ Apr 6 2019, 02:42 PM)
Same here. I've been relying on AMB WMC for the past few years for overseas spend. So disappointed they suddenly devalued points 20%.
AMB WMC is still the best card for forex though - 1% markup (apart from BP which is 0%). Though if you rely on M2P to BP, that's capped at RM10k/month for overseas spend, so anything extra I'll still use the AMB WMC.
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It was devalued at 40%! Not 20%
From 5k to 7k

QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Apr 6 2019, 03:56 PM)
are there any cc that allows the conversion of CC points to airmiles accounts that has a different name i.e., not same as principal card holder?
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It is determined by FFP, not CC
Most of the FFP don't allow so

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post Apr 7 2019, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 7 2019, 12:51 PM)
I think it is Bank not ffp

The last time I did was with cimb to MH
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Not too sure.
Bank can allow any name to go through, but they will be questioned by FFP during audit.
To keep their hand clean, best way is to tally both names.
When study from overseas forum, some mentioned that FFP will checked your redeemed miles while you make your booking.
Don't know how true it is.

Btw, you can transfer your miles between family members for some FFP, of course it is not free.
Enrich and AM are possible, but not for KF.
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QUOTE(ProxMatoR @ Apr 7 2019, 09:34 PM)
I don't think so, it should be the other way round, FFP allow any name, as is the bank "paying" those points.

But, is the bank not giving this benefits to the non-card holders. If you want that benefit, go apply that card, then bank got business, then will give you straight.
check redeemed miles while make booking? what does redeemed miles do with new bookings?
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I also found it weird.
Nevertheless, it was shared by at least 2 separate incidents.
He was happy to received the KF miles (from his spouse CC).
When he redeemed free tickets from KF, it was flagged (KF checked his source).
Finally they found a clause which the bank allows transfer between spouse and close the case.
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QUOTE(digidigi @ May 2 2019, 10:33 PM)
Australian is a bit old school, slow and easy lifestyle
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Australia is pretty cashless thanks to Eftpos.
I have been using Eftpos more than 10 years ago, and supermarket cashier is basically the atm machine.
Back then, Msia CC still required signature (and not common for us to apply for pin), which may not accept by some merchant (ie. Taxi).

E-wallet was basically started by PayPal, which was a by-product of Ebay (if not mistaken).
People use PayPal for convenience, security (protection) as well as for foreign currencies purchase.
Mr Jack copied Ebay and came out with Alibaba, as well as Alipay, the Chinese version PayPal.
I believe Chinese Gov is playing major role to turn China into largest cashless society nowadays, with the aim to minimize corruption.

Generally, western countries (inc aus) has wider acceptance of CC (and debit card).
They are not desperate for e-wallet, especially now with Visa payWave.
The introduction of ApplePay & AndroidPay, may slowly turn on e-wallet for European (and American).
For Msia, I believe we are following the Chinese model rather than Westerners, with the aim to record every single transaction.
That's just my own analysis, some data may incorrect.


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