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post Jan 18 2016, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 18 2016, 08:06 AM)
You need to learn the emotion fear and control anxiety from  sifu WMK..  biggrin.gif
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OK, will ask once I had felt fear and anxiety myself, first hand,....ELSE I would not know what he is talking about when he told me .
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 19 2016, 12:36 PM)
hmm.gif i guess, when the going is downhill (like the mkts for the past 2 weeks and maybe the trends would continue)....
it is always good to reflects upon the what we had been given and what we had achieved so far......
even though some peopled achieved more than others  tongue.gif
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i guess the reflection does not need to happens now under such dire mkts situations...unless the current reflection about is about how one felt about the current losses.
maybe after this current storm is over, one can reevaluate his fund selections and switch into those that has the risks and investment objectives that are suitable to one emotions of fear one felt under current situation.
FSM did encourage one to reflects upon what one had and the achievement status of what one had periodically...there are many articles on rebalancing, so that one can investing globally with profitability under higher probability.
*replace the word "reflection" with "review" if one does not want to feel so spiritually. tongue.gif


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post Jan 20 2016, 07:16 PM

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with no end in sight yet......IRR is already < 3% sweat.gif

to be honest...it could have been a lot worst, if not by luck i sold off Hw Jpn Growth and HSAO on 4 Jan and reentered on 18 Jan (combined total is about 20% of portfolio value) sweat.gif

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post Jan 20 2016, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 20 2016, 06:43 PM)
figure 1 : forecasted annualized return is the expected ROI for stocks?
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hmm.gif I think this is more relevant....
How Does One Predict Equity Market Returns?
In this article, we highlight the 3 key components of equity market returns, allowing investors to estimate the potential returns one may expect from an investment in the stock market.
Author : iFAST Research Team

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...t-Returns--1385

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post Jan 22 2016, 02:51 PM

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Boring day eh?... for a little bit of "Tahi lembu jantan".

i made 6 out of 10 transaction into these TOP sales fund last week.
hmm.gif did i have so much money to move the ranking blush.gif or there are alot of people doing that? thumbup.gif

Titatn and India are in top 5....
China and ponzi 2.0 sad.gif ...wei...i did moves some it them too leh rolleyes.gif




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post Jan 22 2016, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 22 2016, 01:32 PM)
better move to bond for the time being
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hmm.gif i think too late already...mkts already down too much. further more....

"The cavalry might be coming to the rescue in terms of the central banks starting to sound more dovish," Shane Oliver, head of investment strategy in Sydney at AMP Capital Investors, told Bloomberg TV.

"There’s a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel. We’ve probably seen the worst and by the end of the year things will be a lot brighter than they are now."

After a rout that has wiped several trillion dollars off global markets so far this year, the prospect that two of the planet's biggest central banks were ready to step in finally gave investors something to cheer about.

On Thursday, European Central Bank boss Mario Draghi highlighted concerns about the impact of plunging equity and oil prices on already weak inflation and pledged to reconsider its monetary policy at its March policy meeting.

Japan's Nikkei Asian Review reported that the head of the Bank of Japan, Haruhiko Kuroda, is weighing up his own plans to fend off the threat of deflation caused by the oil crisis.

The latest developments spread some much-needed confidence around trading floors, sending Tokyo shares surging 3.6% by the break.

Hong Kong was 2.5% higher, Shanghai gained 0.7% and Sydney added 1.3%, while there were also gains of more than 1% in Seoul, Taipei, Singapore and Manila.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/83584...-stimulus-hopes

hmm.gif what if they did not act with shear force? sweat.gif sweat.gif
or will the cavalry being ambushed by the Oil cartels and the communists.... cry.gif

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post Jan 22 2016, 07:45 PM

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just for the "Fun" of it.....go update your portfolio performance as at 21 Jan ....
cry.gif cry.gif
I think many would mad.gif vmad.gif
my XIRR is 2.08% blush.gif

on the consolation....it is still higher than my lowest (since data captured) which is xirr 1.85 in 25 Aug 2015 (Global Rout) and xirr 1.99 at 1 Sept

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QUOTE(kswee @ Jan 22 2016, 07:28 PM)
sold my ponzi at a lost, will not take much risk. im out from ponzi 2.
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just wish you did not lose much...
hope you will remember this incident and your reaction to it emotionally before your next investment.


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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jan 22 2016, 06:03 PM)
I like that analogy. Funny how ponzi 2 is collapsing faster than ponzi 1[attachmentid=5887771]
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maybe b'cos of this.....?


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I think this is timely and may helps many that are still pondering as to what should they do at this junture.....

What Should You Do If You Invested At The “Top”?

Given that a -20% decline is no trivial matter, investors might be seeking ways to reduce overall drawdowns and potentially recover their losses quickly given what has been one of the worst starts to a new year in financial market history.
iFAST Research Team ..... January 22, 2016

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...-The-Top--11233


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 12 2016, 10:27 PM)
Wow. Really bad.

IRR dropped to 5.74%
12-months return dropped to 4.25%
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 12 2016, 11:00 PM)
Average IRR during 2015 was 6.7%
Average 12-months rolling return during 2015 was 11.4%
Peak was 17.9%
Trough was 8.5%

Now u know how bad the past few days were rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 23 2016, 05:49 PM)
Wow, portfolio IRR dropped to 4.8% doh.gif

12-months return...0.13% doh.gif
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hmm.gif from 12 jan to 23 jan, your IRR just dropped 1% thumbup.gif
but the variance of yr 12 months returns comparing 2015 is doh.gif

I think I will use portfolio data captured as at 21 Jan NAV as a mile stone to see how 2016 faired from it....
(I think 21 Jan NAV will be the lowest this year)(don't ask me why I think so...b'cos I just think so laugh.gif )
unless the CHINESE devalue its YUAN again later this year which I think they will too.

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 23 2016, 01:50 PM)
I've stayed invested in fsm for close to 5 years. But it seems to be giving a lower return than FD so far. Maybe I always buy in at wrong time. My last major buying was during the 0.5% sc discount. Doubled my portfolio, within days everything dropped
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hmm.gif I understand how you felt...but with 5 years at less than FD rate,...you still stick with it?
what is your ratio of FI:EQ?
what is your expected ROI pa you seek when you planned your initial portfolio that are suitable to your risks?
Don't just focused to much on the returns...have a bit of consideration about the higher risk for higher return.....
in short...can you have a peace of mind for a good nite sleep

didn't you ask FSM CIS for assistance?

or try to consider a locally back tested portfolio by "lukenn" at 10.92% CAGR on last 10 yrs (2004~2014) at 50% FI : 50% EQ
page# 37, post# 723

mine at 2.5 yrs at about FD rate...already BEH Tahan liao


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post Jan 24 2016, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 24 2016, 12:08 AM)
Well once it went just above but after that lagging behind. My equity is around 80 per cent. Something is wrong I think. Have to talk to specialist on monday
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thumbup.gif very good idea. ....
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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 24 2016, 12:16 AM)
.........
Looks like what you'd expect if
1. equal weighted.
2. lump sum investment from day 1.
3. no rebalancing.

To me, it looks like
1. overweighted foreign holdings - heavy on APxJ.
2. overdiversifed to too many funds.
3. portfolio unbalanced.
4. FX exposure is a bit too high.
5. selected funds based solely on return/FSM recommendations.
If you're underperforming FD, you're doing something wrong.
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hmm.gif from your simulation...what is the expected CAGR for this 5 yrs for that portfolio?


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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 24 2016, 11:24 PM)
......I see. So if ordinary investors ask the CIS for their advice, would they just say please follow one of the FSM Recommmeded Portfolios, do RSP and have a long term investing horizon of 5 years and above?
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no-lah.....when they called upon to review,....they will ask some personal info/details and if one is ok with the risks and returns of the current holdings.
when one said,..i wanted higher ROI and can stomach the volatility....then they will review .
they would then would make some suggestion....to change the holdings
it is up to individual to follow thru with it...

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 24 2016, 11:27 PM)
Value lost that much coz portfolio imbalance haha. Well I think high value are those hitting 7 figure ones. I personally wont put 7 figure into it, real estate maybe
I did ask before on funds specifically. They will explain la based on lets say current condition bla bla bla...we think that china will be so and so. However volatility might be seen in short term, we advice customer to stay invested and ride through the volatility. They will give u pros and cons but at the end you still need to make the call to buy or not
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thumbup.gif yes, b'cos it is our money.....
I think this also applies to paid consultant services too....
hmm.gif unless one go for ASx - FP and say,...I don't care what or how you invest...I just want some dividend to be paid annually and when I had enough I sell it back to you at the same value as I bought now....
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 24 2016, 11:51 PM)
........ If some1 can just take they money and say ok i guarantee yearly divident is 5.5% , I think i also happy d. Guaranteed return wo higher than FD
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hmm.gif if that someone can simply take deposit and guarantee just 5.5%.....i think that some one would make a lot of $$ by just take your money and buy into these.
the money he had make by giving you 5.5% pa is just too good..... biggrin.gif
yes history may not repeat, but a least it is a good guide.

I "just think" your 5.5% pa can be "easily" achieved if you just put 50% in FD at 4% and 50% buy into these funds



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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 25 2016, 12:26 AM)
What is ur expected target this time for your portfolio?  10%pa?
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I just want to have an IRR of 7~8....preferably can be maintain for 6 months at any 1 time.
not sure if can be done or not....
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jan 25 2016, 08:15 AM)
I don't monitor my UT investment daily, but I know there are some people here who compute IRR everyday  tongue.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif me, me, me.....one of that some one is me rclxm9.gif
hope my definition of monitoring is of the same page with others.
my monitoring is capturing and recording the data. that is it....nothing else.....as to why?...for the fun of it and b'cos I am free.

btw,...this routine is not suitable to everyone even though they are as free as me....b'cos sometimes the sights of the captured data is so "not good" and that may lead them to do something that they would not do in normal time.
But sometimes I too wished that I had taken action earlier from the sight of the data. blush.gif


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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 25 2016, 06:35 PM)
Asia markets looking good!
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Really? that is GOOD... rclxms.gif

hmm.gif isn't it just last week they said OIL and EQ mkts related??

Oil prices fell 4 percent on Monday as Iraq announced record-high oil production feeding into a heavily oversupplied market, wiping out much of the gain made in one of the biggest-ever daily rallies last week.
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ing-oversupply/

will this 4% dropped be reflected in tomorrow Eq mkts?


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