@lokgotz,
D reason the subjects u mentioned becomes a 'lecture' session is because the students in the class hasn't gone through the reading materials or because they aren't familiar with the academic/theoretical aspects hence the need to 'teach' those basics. No point in giving out case studies because without the background theories, ur not gonna be able to answer those questions - hence it's also important to prepare for class; but just how many of us bother preparing for classes? Damn, just how many people even actually bother preparing themselves for a meeting?

@lokgotz,
Malaysians love to be spoon fed what to do? I hope you're learning from your study group though

@lokgotz,
Discuss stuff with your group member; put what you have learnt into practise. No point in just finding out operations I don't think i'm gonna be able to help u much with your Finance, so good luck !

@CityLife,
Define local and foreign. I think it's v much dependent on which particular Biz School you're talking about

@xcutelilgal,
You will also need about RM100k And, the MBS MBA *should* be good... very good

Do not tell urself the subject is difficult for if you do, you will find that it truly is tough! Just prepare for classes and you'll do fine. Ask when you don't understand and importantly, contribute!

To really check if you know the subject, explain what you've just learnt to someone who's lost and if you're able to transfer the knowledge, you'll realise you'll know the subject better now

Good Luck...and soon, u people be talking about DBAs ! *scary*

@lokgotz,
With the amount of publicity you're giving to me, I'm gonna have to start charging for advise sought *grins* And I'm very sure you would have scored much much much better if u'd taken my advise and made those amendments !! *grins* but ah well, time was what u didn't haf and well, at least u passed *grins*

Good luck with the DBA - I'm sure there's gonna be more choices then than now. I did come across a new DBA offered by *i dun remember the name but I think it's probably affiliated with HELP [i think it's Glocal Education ....bla bla bla...]*. Its offshore partner's a uni in the Philippines - don't quite remember the name but i do know they've just opened registration for the 1st Intake. It apparently also can be completed within 1.5 years. Ok Ok I'll spare the details cause ur not gonna start until about a decade later [plus, that's all the info I have! LoL]

Eh.. and how can u be too tired of studying? You still have an entire Y2 to go through before you're done with the program!! Oh.. and I'm fed up of work, fed up of some people, fed up of teaching, fed up of the ... ah well, u get the idea

@lokgotz,
Appreciate that I took the initiative to call to check on the assignment despite my super bz scheduled !! LoL

In terms of ROI I too find the DBA not worth pursuing but well, as Maslow puts it - it's just self actualisation to some people *grins* The money, time and effort put it if put in a business might be more profitable *grins* And I wouldn't need to start a biz writing assignments for people *oopSs?!* hAHahAHhaHAHa...

Good Luck with the remaining Year - and remember.. whatever u do, do NOT defer `k?

@SincerePrayer,
If u need help, just send me a PM and we'll get in touch but i'm sure u'll be fine You can also refer and check with lokgotz - he is afterall ur Senior

And, the cycle towards a better GDP would need to involve payment from all parties *grins*

Know how to evaluate an organisation's financial standings, as in what u need to look at and why u look into those areas, etc etc.

My last tip to you is to go through ur notes or the subject before class so that you can ask questions during class - an MBA class shouldn't be done where you're taught the theories and not discuss it in a real world setting [alas, that's how most local MBAs are conducted! *sigh*]

If I could afford it, I'll like to go for Kellogg's MBA !! *grins*

@DerekKuah,
Other than looking at their course structure, u should request and ask if u can sit in on one of their classes. Refer to the enrolment statistics and check if there are more local students or foreign students enrolled in the program. It's also good to check the average age [to determine rough est of average years worked] of ur classmates.

@tishaban,
Where there is a will, there is a way ! WooOhOoO And if I had to use MY own moo-lah, I'll very much rather tag along with you. Or just need to convince YOUR friend to let me haf the other room 2 streets from the Uni! LoL..... Speaking of which, how's ur preparations for GMAT coming along?

@DerekKuah,
Go find out the coming intake's enrolment - it will be better and more helpful if u have more people with working experience than no work experience. In terms of ranking of uni, well, uhm.... I think VUT is ranked lower *shrugs*

Normally there's a good reason for the difference in cost but in this instance, could it be because Sunway's more 'reknowned' (for now) than SeGi hence decided to charge a premium? Unless the course structure is v different and that Sunway's VUT MBA flies their facilitators in from AU *shrugs*

You need to find out.. I think we've given u sufficient guidelines

@Melon,
Actually, if u look according to the ranks, the MBS MBA is pretty damn good *grins* Also, If i'm not mistaken, though the course is done locally, the lecturers/facilitators are flown in from MBS - that's definitely a reason for the high school fees.

Nottingham's MBA is not too bad either but i dont' think it can top MBS's ranking Hence this isn't a good example to quote. Maybe can say Vertu phones are really expensive [it may not be the most expensive *shrugs*] but that doesn't mean it's the best *grinz*

@alsree786,
I tend to agree with Melon that it is a good thing when a Uni takes into account age and work experience available. With that, generally, the Uni can be sure that one would have at least X years of work experience, and is mature. It is also probably true that each candidate is looked at on a case-to-case basis hence if you really are short of 1-2 years in age but have very strong credentials and sufficient work experience, u may just get into the program. You may need to go through an oral interview and excel in that too - it's really up to you to convince the Uni.

I'm pretty sure NUBS (Nottingham Uni) too has an age requirement. I don't know how many specialised areas been made available at NU but if you're looking at going into a specialised area, you should only consider Uni's with that offering. MBS is relatively new (heck it's NEW!) hence a possible reason why the current MBAs are skewed to Engineering/non Business graduates *shrugs* - it could be a 'marketing' problem [damn, who am I to tell Sunway/MBS they've got a marketing problem?] Perhaps it's only because facilitators at MBS spends a little bit more time explaining the academic/theoretical part before discussions are made to bring in the practical applications from the case studies.

At the end of the day, an MBA is an MBA - i don't believe there MBS MBA will state distinctively that it's an MBA pursued by Engineers/non Business degree holders, etc.

There are also pros and cons to pursuing your MBA on full time basis. Most practitioners will not be able to take time off 1 years work unless sabbatical leave can be granted and IMO that's unlikely to happen. I also believe the NU full time MBA is an 'accelerated' program hence it won't be practical for you to work and study simultaneously.

I can understand your concern & frustration of the prolonged completion even with the exemptions you have - that's probably because there's currently 1 intake at MBS and you'll have to mix your subjects and wait till the subject becomes available - this may not be a problem at NU as there's few ongoing intakes which you can join.

At the end of the day, whether you pick the MBS/NU MBA, both are reputable and are good in terms of the learning age Go for NU if u've decided to


@Melon,
It sure looks interesting - and I would really like to be part of the case study discussions but ah well, I'm not gonna fork out RM98k for it *grinz* I still think it's these discussions where one can learn the most from and that's what makes a good and not so good MBA.

Don't be surprised majority of case studies discussed be UK/EU based as that would be 'local' to your facilitators *grins*

So, haf u subscribed to those publications mentioned? Wanna share passwords with me? *grins*

@lokgotz,
Knowing how some of the schools operate and market themselves, I'm pretty sure you won't have 100% flown in lecturers/facilitators but well, just learn whatever you can learn and importantly, contribute and keep discussions alive [do not speak for the sake of speaking!]

@goliath/DerekKuah,
Your question's been well answered above. You shouldn't need to worry about coming from a non business background. You just have to work harder than them [they would have the fundamental basics of the academic theories and it will be a refresher course to them - to u, it's something new but it's not all that difficult to understand]

Er.. the 5th P is People. And there's also a 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th and 14th too!! Just don't ask me what it is. I came across this reference book by CIM (UK) when I was doing my MBA and all I remember reading was the 14Ps [I should've taken note of it all but I didn't - sorrEeee!]. To me, it's just going back to the basic and knowing the fundamentals - everything else is interlinked, trust me!

@tishaban,
Well said !!

@SincerePrayer,
No one said u needed a degree in order to pursue an MBA *grins* Am sure if Lim Goh Tong wanted to start chasing his academic papers today, he would very much qualify to do an MBA and yet be given exemptions! Then again, if I were him I wouldn't go back to school!! hAHahAHahAH

I don't think the assignments would be the same but feel free to drop me a PM if u are looking for someone to help with your discussions. Good Luck!

@JoyLuvz,
Art Management? What's the course syllabus like? And what is taught? I doesn't sound v much like a Business degree to me. A non MBA degree skewed towards biz would be MA (Business) or something like that or it can be MBus (Management/Marketing/Finance) or perhaps maybe even MComm.

At the end of the day, don't be fooled by the title - check out the course syllabus so u know exactly what you're going into. What you perceive and the actual course may be totally different

@aicilef,
Course fees might be a bit lower (I'm not too sure since I haven't done an actual comparison) but it's also important to check out its panel of facilitators too.

If my memory doesn't fail me, UPM used to have a not too bad MBA program which is affiliated to a foreign university. Check it out and if you can find an alumni website go ahead and email one of them to ask for clarification and more information

@yewkhuay,
If UM hasn't changed its course syllabus from the time I did my research, their MBA's just too academic - I wouldn't recommend it.

@jasperng,
Is it not a little too early for u to be looking at current available MBA options? Also, your answers been answered in detail throughout this entire MBA discussion.

You would also be able to get the information about the MBS MBA from their website if you can't get it here.

@yewkhuay,
It very much depends on what you're looking for in an MBA - also, is geographical location an issue? *grins* And what about whether it's a f/time or p/time course?

@yewkhuay,
It depends on the course structure. U might be left with a lot of time if u took a p/time MBA and did it full time and vice versa.

Y not also check if your office is willing to support a part of your education? No harm trying, right?